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Title: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Bob D on November 03, 2013, 04:31 AM
I'm having trouble getting my Emong to glide. Other posts suggested adjusting the tow settings to prevent diving. I see that Steve still has Zero Gs for sale. The video shows them flying like a glider plane and that's what I was hoping for with the Emong.

Two questions:
Does the Emong take a lot of practice to learn to fly? I don't mind a challenge but I wish it were easier to learn.

Is the Zero G as easy to fly as the video suggests? I'm thinking that the Zero G might be a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: larryg4me on November 03, 2013, 04:52 AM
I have the Zero G and i am having lots of trouble with it as a zero wind glider, its not an easy flyer in my mind.  i also have the Flying Wings Laima Bird and love it, very easy to fly ...


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 03, 2013, 05:31 AM
The plutz is a much better glider than then the emong.....a much more funky look to it as well.
I had found that the emong dove quite often as well...and maybe because of the amount of sail area it was very hard to recover outside a walk of shame.....
the plutz will recover much better...and if it does end up on the ground pivot around to relaunch quite nicely too...



Title: Re: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: DD on November 03, 2013, 05:57 AM
I have a zero g and it glides very well. It may take some tweaking to get what you want with multiple adjustment points.  I also have a chiropetra by will sturdy, also a great glider


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: coogee on November 03, 2013, 10:39 AM
I have a ZG and love it, great fun!

I also have an urban ninja and ended up with 8 grams of lead on the nose to get it tuned to my liking it is also fun and flies in very low breeze but does not glide as well as the ZG.

Mike


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 03, 2013, 10:52 AM
and just to make it more fun...the BiPlutz will be available in very limited amounts too......
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-evBEwy-uxqE/Tx6n2_t3cMI/AAAAAAAAVm4/ABQilllyDAc/s912/IMG_3200.JPG)

funky funky shape with wonderful xUL flying!


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Bob D on November 03, 2013, 11:58 AM
Is it possible to make the Emong glide better or is it just practice?

And the BiPlutz: how's the gliding?


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: donaldrke on November 03, 2013, 02:38 PM
The Emong is a great kite, easier to turn then most. works better on a shorter line. Fly with a rod and 25' line. A good kite to teach anyone about gliding kites. Can Hand to someone and in about 15 minutes they have full control.

Donald
Got Wind? kite Club


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: KaoS on November 03, 2013, 03:33 PM

And the BiPlutz: how's the gliding?

Amazingly good!  We were using one like a paper airplane in the hotel lobby in Bintulu.  It just goes on forever


Title: Re: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: jecko on November 03, 2013, 07:07 PM
I have a variation of the Platz. Its not a Mega Plutz, almost the same size. Glide as good. Its GX. :-)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/04/amevyje5.jpg)


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: coogee on November 05, 2013, 12:49 PM
Wow really like the Bi Plutz and Jecko's glider looks great ... once you get a liking for the glider kites they can be awesome fun. Nothing like throwing up a kite that will just keep going in not enough breeze to fly any thing else.... absorbing and relaxing. Love the early morning with the light land breeze for the ZG.

Mike


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Danceswithwinds on November 05, 2013, 04:20 PM
I have both and have no problem with either, indoors or out . Emong glides further with less spine tension and I can fly mine outside on 100+ft line with ease in 1-2 mph wind, I use light Climax line on both. I find the Emong  better in smaller indoor spaces than the Zero G. If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: donaldrke on November 05, 2013, 04:37 PM
Check out this emong Video

Emong testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBSq1RwmZiM#ws)

Donald


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 05, 2013, 04:44 PM
If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.
The pterodactyls are top notch...i like the large more than the standard size...but have you tried the 6-81?
he he he he he he he he h


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: ko on November 05, 2013, 05:31 PM
the only glider I have ever flown is Marcos Zero-G. After 2 min. of instruction (and he had only flown it twice) I was having a blast granted it was lab grade maybe 1mph max but it was REALLY easy to fly.. WAY floaty


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 05, 2013, 05:40 PM
Ko why have you not gotten your own yet? ;)
The holiday season is coming you know......
Wish lists work!!!!!


Title: Re: Re: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: DD on November 05, 2013, 06:25 PM
If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.
The pterodactyls are top notch...i like the large more than the standard size...but have you tried the 6-81?
he he he he he he he he h
6-81?
61/49? I have one of these as well but it's more of 1-2 mph kite at minimum for me


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: ko on November 05, 2013, 06:36 PM
Rob.. I just may have to do that.. I do not think you can go wrong with that kind of price. Buuuuut I do like unique so I will keep watching this for ideas. I did not enjoy fighters but gliders seem to be very Zen like


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 05, 2013, 06:37 PM
Nope.....Karl makes a 6-81....stiffer frame than the pterodactyl with some neat design tweaks....this is one more reason I like the large pterodactyl more than the small one.....the 6-81 replaced the small one in my bag......
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VFtpMTE3a_o/UVwPq4keVdI/AAAAAAAAc74/Syr1H1-LA90/s512/2013-04-03_07-13-55_880.jpg)


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Doug S on November 07, 2013, 03:50 PM
You could always build one yourself. ;D  The attached picture is of my Rapere Canard Kite.  Reply #73 at the following link takes you to the post under the Kite Building and Repair Section of this Forum, which provides the links to download the plans and construction pictures for two sizes of the Rapere.

http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=8850.60 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=8850.60)

If you have any questions, just send me a PM.

Later,

Doug

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Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Doug S on November 07, 2013, 08:15 PM
Here is a picture of the Rapere on the climb.

Doug

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Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Bob D on November 08, 2013, 04:10 AM
Doug knows what he's talking about. I've seen his kites and he's quite the XUL builder!


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Danceswithwinds on November 09, 2013, 01:34 PM
If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.
The pterodactyls are top notch...i like the large more than the standard size...but have you tried the 6-81?
he he he he he he he he h
Not as yet but will be flying with Karl next Sunday at an indoor get together so hoping he will bring some and may be something new. Problem is that these doo`s can get costly,as we all know that enough kites is one more than you have!!!!!! ;D


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 10, 2013, 10:49 AM
If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.
The pterodactyls are top notch...i like the large more than the standard size...but have you tried the 6-81?
he he he he he he he he h
Not as yet but will be flying with Karl next Sunday at an indoor get together so hoping he will bring some and may be something new. Problem is that these doo`s can get costly,as we all know that enough kites is one more than you have!!!!!! ;D

he he he he he....i told Karl that he needs to bring a couple extra 6-81s for you to choose from....



Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Danceswithwinds on November 18, 2013, 04:19 PM
If you are flying indoors check out a Karl Longbottom Petrodactyl , great fun flyer.
The pterodactyls are top notch...i like the large more than the standard size...but have you tried the 6-81?
he he he he he he he he h
Not as yet but will be flying with Karl next Sunday at an indoor get together so hoping he will bring some and may be something new. Problem is that these doo`s can get costly,as we all know that enough kites is one more than you have!!!!!! ;D

he he he he he....i told Karl that he needs to bring a couple extra 6-81s for you to choose from....
He said you had been in contact. Well I managed not to buy a 6-81, unfortunately he brought his new 7-81,money spent.Also a Brazilian Pipi found a home in my bag. I`m easily swayed. The 7-81 is a beautiful flyier and controlable,I have only been flying single lne kites for a year and this was my third indoor session. I am a long time two and four liner so still learning the lighter touch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHipWymQCSE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHipWymQCSE)


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: thief on November 18, 2013, 06:45 PM
Well done Tim well done.
Why did you choose a 7 over a 6?
You will love the pipa to!!!!


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Danceswithwinds on November 19, 2013, 02:24 AM
Thanks. I chose it because it worked for me and felt comfortable straight away, it was fun from the off. I find I that a kite must either feel right to me or  be something  of a challenge eg. Flexifoil L7, Utopia or Andy Wardley/Tim Benson Airbow ( I know more than 1 line). New  challenge always good (Pipa).(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab99/nitrov6/MINE/In%20the%20Quiver/PiPa_zpsf902843b.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/nitrov6/media/MINE/In%20the%20Quiver/PiPa_zpsf902843b.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: Bob S on August 17, 2014, 05:25 AM
My vote goes to zero g, what fun. I have just started flying again after a two year break. Ordered the zero a few months back and within 15 mins I was out flying and it would glide forever.

On a side note. The winders seem weak, during shipment the box was smashed an only damage was winder broken. Then just last week a load shift in my car snapped the replacement winder. A quick email to prism and two replacements in a couple days. Luv them guys.

Bob


Title: Re: Emong versus Zero G
Post by: coogee on August 18, 2014, 03:49 PM
I really like the ZG and recently have been playing with the Mega Plutz from Ceewan. Super cool kite and really striking in the sky. Sky Shark tubes, Icky sail.... great bit of kit.

Mike