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Title: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 30, 2013, 04:43 AM
Here Is my Second Video.

I was testing different timings (0:10 to 0:18) on the cyniques

also testing softer pulls to harder pulls (0:25 to 0:40) on the cyniques

Half Axles (1:00 to 1:12)

J.L. (1:30 to 2:00)

Learning Yo-Fades (2:10 to end)

iFY2 ATM SUL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQ5Q7eEg3s#ws)



Thanks.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: mr wojtas on December 30, 2013, 05:08 AM
Wouw!!!! some sharp flying!!!
Keep up the good work!!
A real motivation video to start trying some new tricks with my sul.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: adx1592 on December 30, 2013, 07:37 AM
Alright, I have to ask this now.

The ATM looks great, yes. However in literally every video I've seen the kite looks like it struggles big time getting out of a backflip (turtle) from either a multi lazy, cynique, or anything of the sort. JL's of course are a different story, because of their different exiting maneuver.

Geroge can you shed some light on this? Maybe Tom Patterson as well?

Like the kite, and the pilots great, but the kite just doesn't seem to like leaving its home on its back. Any honest info would be more than appreciated! Looking great up there.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: tpatter on December 30, 2013, 09:25 AM
Pretty amazing stuff Jorge. I can't believe that you have picked up the cynique and now the yo fade so quickly - quite remarkable!

Tom


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: tpatter on December 30, 2013, 09:39 AM
Devin,

From my perspective, there are no turtle exit issues with the ATM.  You can see my video around 6:00 where I multi lazy to straight exit and it looks struggle-free at least to me.

It is a turtle based kite however which I think is one reason why it tricks so easily and reliably.  I have flown kites where the turtle tendency is so strong that it makes 2 point landings, for example, more challenging, but that is not the case with the ATM.

It tracks like the Sea Devil, but tricks like a cross between Fearless and Transformer in that it gives you lots of input time like the Fearless, but is not as locked-in turtle wise.  So, it likes to be on it's back,but does not insist on it. 

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 30, 2013, 10:02 AM
Sometimes you have to readjust your inputs. I'm in that process now.  I love my ATM . It's a great kite. The only down side I have are the fades. Unless you have a nice smooth winds it's hard to keep it.


Thanks.



Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Fearless Object on December 30, 2013, 11:15 AM
Very nice flying Jorge, You only have the kite for short time and already do stuff that many people can not do. Keep up the awesome job my friend. Thank you for the video. Happy flying and look ahead of you always :) Cheer.

Have a great day !


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 30, 2013, 03:38 PM
Thanks to everyone for your comments.

In my next video, I'll look forward to show how the ATM tracks. It's not all about tricks with the ATM. Have to wait for better weather conditions.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: trigger on December 30, 2013, 06:46 PM
Always love your videos Jorge.

Now I just wish I could put one together even close to that. I will keep trying though. The Fade had eluded me until this weekend where i got a couple good ones.  I may try my Zephyr(which I have 1+years on)side by side with the ATM New Years Day just to see if I can hold it with the Z any better.  I doubt it, but it's worth the experiment.

The tracking really is good on the ATM, especially considering its trick potential.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 30, 2013, 07:05 PM
Thank You Tom.

I'm also waiting for New Years Day to go out and Fly.

Slack line tricks is just about practicing and having fun. I've been there too. Holding a fade for 4-5 seconds and I was so proud of it.

What tricks do you manage?


Title: Re: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: DD on December 30, 2013, 07:35 PM
Looks like you had little to no wind


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 30, 2013, 08:01 PM
Hi DD:

It Was 3-8 mph at the first part of the video. At the Last Part where I did the yo-fade went down to 2-4 mph


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: tpatter on December 30, 2013, 11:00 PM
Thank You Tom.

What tricks do you manage?

I can do most all the basics now (yoyo, fade, JL, landings, backspin, slots, insane, etc) as well as the comete and I learned the taz this last year.  Still working on the left hand comete and I can sort of taz on the left side now.  Also, since getting the ATM, I can now cynique, but we'll see how that translates to my other kites!  :)  It doesn't seem to stress the ATM like it does other kites, so I have been inclined to work on it much more.  I also seem to enjoy straight-out sharp precision flying a lot these days.

I haven't worked on the yo-fade and some of the other more advanced tricks yet.   

My priority for now is:
- taz on the left and then taz cascades
- comete clockwise and then comete cascade


Thanks,
-Tom


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 31, 2013, 04:28 AM
Hi Tom:

I'm more less at the same level you are. Still working on the comete.  Taz are easier on the right side. Working my left side now. I can pull some crazy copters and wap do waps but not always come out right. As for presition am creating a routine. Have most of it memorized. Let's see how that one comes out.



Jorge.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: dihongshao2000 on December 31, 2013, 09:47 AM
Nice video and great flying Jorge!!!

I'm more less at the same level you are. ...

I personally think Tom is much more advanced.  See his ATM SUL video and his kite review:
http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=10549.0 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=10549.0)


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: etully on December 31, 2013, 11:06 AM
BTW, looks like there are two Tom's in this thread who have been confused for one another.  Nice flying Jorge!


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on December 31, 2013, 04:08 PM
Thanks dihongshao2000:  :) I think you were right about Tom

Tom looks more advanced than me.

I Started stunt kites just for fun. That's why I make my videos. I get lots of feedback from friends telling me about things I can improve.

My main goal is to improve my flying skills.

I wish everyone happy new year.  :)


 


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: tpatter on December 31, 2013, 07:14 PM
It's all relative Jorge!  I can't do a yo fade and there is always room to make everything look smoother and cleaner no matter who you are.

I admire your skills and flying attitude - have you entered VF yet?  It's a great excuse to fly more and a lot of fun.  Like you, I've found that its fun to capture video and I think it also helps us get better to see how it all looks.  :)

Happy NY to you as well.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: Jorge Gouverneur on January 01, 2014, 02:52 PM
Thanks Tom:

I have learned everything from watching videos, going out to the field and  figuring out the moves (trial & error).

I'm going to Treasure Island FL. this Jan. 18-19 (the AKA competitions). Hopefully I'll be able to learn from skilled pilots and see how the competition works.


Title: Re: Second week with my ATM SUL
Post by: tpatter on January 01, 2014, 04:30 PM
You will have lots of fun at TI. 

I used to be much more involved with the AKA back when my son was competing a few years ago.  It's a great organization and the competitions are also a lot of fun.  You can be as involved as you want from observing, competing, judging, helping out with setup and take down of the fields, lots of room for anyone who has a desire to get involved.

Jared on the forum here is a great guy - be sure to look him up if you haven't already. 

The NWSKL often does hot trick at competitions in addition to the judged routines which were always the highlight for me.  Enjoy yourself!   Wish I were going as well!

Tom