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Title: Monster UL
Post by: Krijn on July 01, 2014, 08:01 AM
Working on a kite, again.
This one will be for myself, a Monster UL.

Pinstriping-preparation:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/a428oz.jpg)

Using white thread:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2rd90qu.jpg)

The two sail-halfs are ready:
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2zfqxww.jpg)


Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: DMF on July 01, 2014, 09:33 AM
Nice Monster! Thread details look cool. Looking forward to seeing you framing choice


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: sugarbaker on July 02, 2014, 01:02 AM
I really like white thread on red black and white kites... Matter if fact, I'm using white thread in DMF's essence.

Monster is coming along well!


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Krijn on July 02, 2014, 03:02 AM
it's not red, by the way

it's rubin (between red and pink)


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: coogee on July 02, 2014, 03:27 AM
The monster looks pretty cool and I like the rubin with the black grey white.
The white thread makes any mistakes stand out, but does look good. Just have to be careful.
Keen to see the end results.

Mike


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Krijn on July 03, 2014, 01:14 AM
I'm using a coloured line along the trailing edge, leading edge and centrepiece.

Trailing edge:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/29vkmfa.jpg)

Centrepiece:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/zoazaf.jpg)


Just like I did in this build for someone else: http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=10921.0 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=10921.0).
It looks very nice and it is not loads of work.
And the leading edge, you might ask. Not done yet!  :D




Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Kareloh on July 03, 2014, 02:53 AM
Nice!


Title: Re: Monster STD
Post by: Krijn on July 04, 2014, 01:37 PM
Ok, sail is ready.

And I was just checking all the rods I have in stock right here. Turns out to be a lot...
I was planning for another kite to donate it's frame for this Monster, but what about this (yes in that case it will be a STD):

Spine: P3X
Leading Edge: P200/P300
Upperspreader: 6mm
Lower spreaders: Black Diamond Nitro

Sound ok, right? Or is it a too heavy Spine?

I know the Monster is designed with a cheapish frame with mainly plain 6mm, but I like stiff kites (I think that's why I've got 7 kites with an all-Aerostuff frame in it...).

Framing will start tomorrow/sunday. Pictures will follow.


Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Krijn on July 06, 2014, 08:04 AM
So here is my Monster STD.  ;)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/ajv0ps.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2qckzms.jpg)

(http://i62.tinypic.com/f1w381.jpg)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/35lf51c.jpg)


Looking forward to the first flight.


Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: coogee on July 06, 2014, 01:05 PM
Very nicely done, love the colour choice and workmanship looks very good.

Should look good in the sky

Mike


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: chilese on July 10, 2014, 12:31 AM
From photogbill:

Beautiful kite Krijn. I had a custom colored Akuji SUL made by the original designer years ago and always liked the way it looks in the sky with the 4 rubin panels!

About the 'Monster' ...Is it a new free build offer? I haven't been on the forum all that much lately and am not familiar with it. Can you share more information about it? Like who designed it? If there's a pdf available for it...etc.?


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: DMF on July 10, 2014, 03:08 AM
Looking forward to hearing your flight impressions.

Great looking build


Title: Re: Monster STD
Post by: Krijn on July 12, 2014, 01:27 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2vtwirr.jpg)

Right, is does fly!

The chosen frame and weight seem perfect for this kite. Yoyo's are good and reliable and the Backflip is stable.
The one thing I do not like are the Backspins, bit hard to execute and not flat at all. But the rest is nice.

I especially like the Yoyo's (three in a row is no problem) and Rolling Cascade: very clear and easy to pull it out after one rotation.
Jacobsladders are smooth. (Multi)Slots: nice.
The Tazmachine needs a quite late second input, but the are beautiful.

This Monster looks great in the sky!


Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Krijn on July 12, 2014, 01:30 PM
About the 'Monster' ...Is it a new free build offer? I haven't been on the forum all that much lately and am not familiar with it. Can you share more information about it? Like who designed it? If there's a pdf available for it...etc.?

PM me your emailaddress, i'll send you the plans.

This kite was designed by Christian Dérefat (Belgium).
Quartz, Organic, Vortex were his previous designs (and more before that).


Krijn


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: kite_pilot on July 12, 2014, 03:43 PM
nice sleek looking kite krijn!!
congrats on the build and what you have achived! :)


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: harveystubbs on July 13, 2014, 12:56 AM
Really nice work. Christian's kites are always good  8)


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: sugarbaker on July 13, 2014, 09:49 AM
Looks great.  One of these days I'll finally start my Monster build (once I finish the Essence SULs on the table!).  I may try a similar framing as you, as I have some nitro sticks I need to use. 


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: photogbill on July 13, 2014, 12:02 PM
About the 'Monster' ...Is it a new free build offer? I haven't been on the forum all that much lately and am not familiar with it. Can you share more information about it? Like who designed it? If there's a pdf available for it...etc.?

PM me your emailaddress, i'll send you the plans.

This kite was designed by Christian Dérefat (Belgium).
Quartz, Organic, Vortex were his previous designs (and more before that).


Krijn

Thanks Krijn, email reply sent!


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: stapp59 on July 16, 2014, 04:46 AM
Nice work as usual.  Agree the Monster is a competent trickster.  Did one like you with P200s LEs and another with Nitro LEs.  Both seem to fly fine.  Are you going to do a UL?  I found the UL to fly well but needs more wind to power up than I had hoped.  Because of that, I started the Exile mod project...


Title: Re: Monster STD
Post by: photogbill on July 19, 2014, 11:07 AM
([url]http://i58.tinypic.com/2vtwirr.jpg[/url])

Right, is does fly!

The chosen frame and weight seem perfect for this kite. Yoyo's are good and reliable and the Backflip is stable.
The one thing I do not like are the Backspins, bit hard to execute and not flat at all. But the rest is nice.

I especially like the Yoyo's (three in a row is no problem) and Rolling Cascade: very clear and easy to pull it out after one rotation.
Jacobsladders are smooth. (Multi)Slots: nice.
The Tazmachine needs a quite late second input, but the are beautiful.

This Monster looks great in the sky!


Krijn


Beautiful kite Krijn & excellently built! I was wondering if you have shot a video of it in flight yet? Everything sounds good except for the backspins....if they are hard for you to execute ...that concerns me as I'm not as good of a kite flier as you are! And how is it that JLs are smooth when part of the execution includes a backspin ...or 1/2 one anyway? I'm ready to start mine but after re-reading your analysis ...which I must have missed prior ...I'm now a little hesitant to proceed! Hoping you can convince me that it's worth putting off other build projects (a couple more Organics in particular) ...and going full steam ahead with the Monster build!


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: Stuart99 on July 23, 2014, 06:23 PM
Couple of quick questions about the Monster. 1. I do not see a tail weight listed in the plans. Where should I start? 2. Krijn's kite appears to not have a leech line. Does anyone know if Christian designed it to be built without one?

Thanks


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: stapp59 on July 23, 2014, 09:25 PM
I pulled a leach line and keep it tight though the trailing edge still buzzes a bit when the wind picks up.  You could pull one and experiment with it.  Tail weight ended up with 25 gr thereabouts.  Make both adjustable and season to taste.

Couple of quick questions about the Monster. 1. I do not see a tail weight listed in the plans. Where should I start? 2. Krijn's kite appears to not have a leech line. Does anyone know if Christian designed it to be built without one?

Thanks


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: True Rookie on July 25, 2014, 02:57 AM
Beautiful kite,  I love the little accent colors. I have been thinking of trying to make me a kite but not sure how that would work out since I don't know how to sew. I'm open for suggestions,  like should I even try,  can I use any sewing machine,  what material to practice with?  Or give up and leave it to the pro's and send them my designs.  Thanks for any advice,  Mike


Title: Re: Monster UL
Post by: DMF on July 25, 2014, 04:14 AM
Beautiful kite,  I love the little accent colors. I have been thinking of trying to make me a kite but not sure how that would work out since I don't know how to sew. I'm open for suggestions,  like should I even try,  can I use any sewing machine,  what material to practice with?  Or give up and leave it to the pro's and send them my designs.  Thanks for any advice,  Mike


If you just want to learn how to sew I would suggest starting with a soft SLK suck as a pocket sled.  http://www.kiteplans.org/planos/pocket/pocket.html (http://www.kiteplans.org/planos/pocket/pocket.html)

If you make one and use an edge binding instead of a folded hem it will teach you most of the sewing skills you need in a nice small cheap project.  I would use spinnaker cloth .75 ripstop nylon or you could even use Tyvek

This would be a good starting place for sewing skills as you don't have to invest too much into it.  Any sewing machine that can do zig zag and triple stitch will work.

If your more ambitious and have decent building skills you could tackle this http://www.tweelijners.com/tom/tomskitesite-en/Plan.html (http://www.tweelijners.com/tom/tomskitesite-en/Plan.html)….but I would still suggest sewing something easy first :)