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Title: Precision Tails?
Post by: lasapcheong on July 12, 2009, 07:26 AM

Is there such a thing as precision tails? Say you have the best precision flyer in the world carving out the sharpest 90 degree boxes with the best precision dual line kite in the world on 120's. Is it possible to have a tail that follows the exact path of the kite to the degree such that you could literally be drawing a box in the sky?

Food for thought...
Darryl


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: RonG on July 12, 2009, 07:40 AM
You mean have the portion of the tail prior to each 90 degree turn stay pinned in position in the sky, and not fall under the influence of the current trajectory of the kite, the weight of the tail before and after it, or the currents in the air?

No.  I'd think leaving a smoke trail is probably the best shot you'd have at that.


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: gwm on July 12, 2009, 08:18 AM
No.  I'd think leaving a smoke trail is probably the best shot you'd have at that.

 Woah!! I think you've just invented something. Smokebombs on kites. Probably has already been done though. It might be a good anti-dog device or a cure for,,, Oh, I think I'll just walk right in front of this kiteflyer and hangout where he's flying. (kind of doubt it on the last one)


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: zippy8 on July 12, 2009, 09:10 AM
Is there such a thing as precision tails?

It's talk like that which really brings out the moderator in me (http://www.elisanet.fi/mike.emery/Smilies/No%20no%20no.gif)

Precision tails ?  ??? What next.... trick socks ?!?!?!

(http://fracturedaxel.co.uk/shop/images/uploads/notails_grey.jpg)

Mike,
11: thou shalt not besmirch thy kite with a poncy tail.


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: Geoffrey Platt on July 12, 2009, 09:11 AM
This could be interesting. I'd want to test it on an old cheap kite before attempting to put them on more expensive kites. If it was fitted properly, it could be REALLY cool. They are used on RC Planes. check out the link:
http://www.rcsmoke.com/ (http://www.rcsmoke.com/)


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: Geoffrey Platt on July 12, 2009, 09:19 AM
Is there such a thing as precision tails?

Precision tails ?  ??? What next.... trick socks ?!?!?!

Mike,
11: thou shalt not besmirch thy kite with a poncy tail.

The smoke is what's next Mike, the smoke :). Much more exciting! if things go terribly wrong we will have Phoenix kites ;)


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: lylenc on July 12, 2009, 04:43 PM
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What next.... trick socks ?!?!?!

When kite flying doesn't attract beach bunnies, stuff trick socks in the front side of your underwear.  :P


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: fidelio on July 12, 2009, 06:52 PM
 :D @ zippy


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: lasapcheong on July 12, 2009, 06:58 PM

Hmm...what if the kite was setup to be nose forward super fast, not the typical Team kites with heavy set bridles. Maybe with a Micron or something like that (provided you can tame the speed first)

-Darryl


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: lasapcheong on July 12, 2009, 11:49 PM
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What next.... trick socks ?!?!?!

When kite flying doesn't attract beach bunnies, stuff trick socks in the front side of your underwear.  :P

I was about to link to an infamous photo shoot of the Red Hot Chili Peppers in the 90s but that would be bordering on the rules here. ???

-Darryl


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: ezme6 on July 13, 2009, 06:09 PM
do it anyway! 8)


Title: Re: Precision Tails?
Post by: Sketch on July 15, 2009, 08:52 PM
You mean have the portion of the tail prior to each 90 degree turn stay pinned in position in the sky, and not fall under the influence of the current trajectory of the kite, the weight of the tail before and after it, or the currents in the air?

No.  I'd think leaving a smoke trail is probably the best shot you'd have at that.


Smokers have been used in the past...by many of us old CLPA Control Line Precision Aerobatic  stunt model flyers.
I flew competition control line stunt before I was addicted to the wind BY KATHY GOODWIND and her addicted co-workers and legions of addicted kite flyers.
These models today are quickly changing over to Electric power but still the best flyers in the world competitions are using gas model engines with tuned pipes that put out a long trail of blue-white trails of smoke.
Unfortunately due to the circle flight path..these models on 70 ft. of multi strand steel .018 dia. line, the smoke trail gets pretty much torn up and these models go through a series of pre planned maneuvers....
check out  www.stunthanger.com (http://www.stunthanger.com)  and see some pretty intense bunch of old kids...compete with their toy airplanes at the nationals that was held in Muncie last week.
Here are two attached photos...showing some of the smoke scene.

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