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Title: What do you think you need?
Post by: np on June 08, 2018, 07:05 PM
What do you think you need or need to do to learn how to do "slack line" tricks?

Please list only one item for each person posting in this thread. Please give others a chance to post.

Whatever it is you think a person needs you might want to elaborate some about the item you listed.

Hopefully this thread will help some struggling slack line fliers out there.  ;D

I'll start by saying I think you need a 7 1/2 foot trick capable kite. There are several out there to choose from. If for some reason your first choice kite doesn't seem to be working like you expect, try a different kite.



Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Frazer on June 08, 2018, 07:09 PM

Smooth onshore winds.

-Frazer


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: chilese on June 08, 2018, 08:15 PM
A patient teacher at my side.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: coogee on June 08, 2018, 08:59 PM
Time

Mike


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: inewham on June 09, 2018, 02:31 AM
perseverance


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: breezin on June 09, 2018, 10:35 AM
Desire, the need to fly like those guys. No doubt moving up to Sky Burners, Lam kites, Hydra and Zephyr have helped. There's a you tube video of a guy in Arizona flying a HQ Bebop. Very impressive. If he showed up while I was flying one of my top of the line kites I might just pack up and go home massaging my ego the whole way  :(.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Gamelord on June 09, 2018, 11:23 AM
Most important thing I can think of is how to do ground recoveries.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: tpatter on June 09, 2018, 01:08 PM
The half axel - itís the key to everything.

I mean a full on hard, you can hear the sail punch, half axel.  Once you can do that, you have the skills and connection to pickup most anything with some effort.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Sherman Myers on June 09, 2018, 03:35 PM
I agree, it would take desire.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: bt on June 09, 2018, 04:28 PM
Ya need to learn how to crash very gently...
bt


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: skb on June 09, 2018, 05:41 PM
Someone who is better than you and is a patient teacher.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: midibot on June 09, 2018, 06:56 PM
Videos.

Back in the day, Dodd Gross' series. Prism vids. Andy Preston vids ("controlled uncontrollability").

Been a bunch more since that others can suggest.

Youtube!

Then get out and try to replicate.

Particularly when there is no one to hand to help (or to supplement same).

.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: np on June 10, 2018, 10:16 AM
Thanks to all posters and It looks like we're ready for round two.
Unless the wind is absolutely perfect for the kite you are flying: You need to MOVE. In most cases forward to create "slack". Sometimes backwards to make a fade rise. Do Not get stuck in concrete. Remember, the kite needs "slack" to do the trick. In most cases you will only need to move a step or two forward. You can also extend your arms forward to create slack. I've watched so many videos on here that if the flier would have moved forward a step or two or extended his arms forward he would have completed the trick.
MOVE


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Frazer on June 10, 2018, 11:03 AM
But too much slack is as bad as not enough, the key to everything is slack-line-management.

The kite needs just enough slack to complete the rotation/transition - nothing more.

Tom's right about the half-axle and once you have nice cascades tho you've pretty much cracked it.

-Frazer


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: breezin on June 10, 2018, 11:53 AM
For the last month my 1/2 axles have gone kaputt. I'll do a rixel 90% of the time no matter what kite I'm on. They were still pretty rough before this brain fart appeared. It's something so simple that I keep overlooking it. Sick of looking at the videos. I'll get it back but flying with a good flier the issue would have been gone long ago. Really putting a damper on Slot and Taz practice. Because 1/2 axle skills suck I've broke LS on a Zephyr, Widow ng and Hydra trying cascades. Line has wrapped around kite. Yank trying to get out of trouble and crack in the air. Same position all 3 times. I'll now let the kite come to ground and then unwrap lines. Yeah right that's what I said to myself the 1st time. Grandson took a really hard nose dive in 20+ on the Hydra last Sunday and probably weakened the LS.Winds were picking up and I wanted him to try going around the power zone 1 more time before we quit. My bad. Couple days ago I heard that now all to familiar crack. I can do a lot of stuff now and think I'm at a level 3 but until my 1/2 axles are honed I can't call myself a trickster yet.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: SurfCityVortices on June 13, 2018, 04:57 PM
Somebody to repeatedly point out all your bad habits


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Frazer on June 13, 2018, 06:58 PM
Somebody to repeatedly point out all your bad habits
A wife does NOT make you a better flier :-[

-Frazer


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: SurfCityVortices on June 14, 2018, 09:16 AM
Somebody to repeatedly point out all your bad habits
A wife does NOT make you a better flier :-[

-Frazer

 :D


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: np on June 15, 2018, 01:57 PM
You need to have equal flying lines. Check them regularly. It really helped me for learning flic-flaks.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: mwp on June 15, 2018, 04:33 PM
A cool and collected mind so that you can try a trick until you get it.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: Ashbridge on June 15, 2018, 11:47 PM
A flying location that doesnít require serious effort and time to reach. 

In the same way that midichlorians are crucial to a Jediís strength, so too is geography a main factor in the learning curve for any kite flyer.  A month on a beach or coast or flat prairie = several years inland.


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: np on June 18, 2018, 12:21 PM
You can also extend your arms forward to create slack.
Here is an example of arm extension and sometimes a bump forward to complete trick.

https://youtu.be/Ep2-lkMfWH


Title: Re: What do you think you need?
Post by: adx1592 on June 21, 2018, 02:54 PM
I was just about to write 'efficient "basic" tricks' in high winds.
This --

But too much slack is as bad as not enough, the key to everything is slack-line-management.

The kite needs just enough slack to complete the rotation/transition - nothing more.

Tom's right about the half-axle and once you have nice cascades tho you've pretty much cracked it.

-Frazer

A lot of people dont realize that a half axel, and other basic maneuvers, can be done in 1 input, and letting the kite tense up the lines will cause the 2nd input to take care of itself. When I can nail the first one in high winds, the rest of the 'warming back up into flying,' as I dont fly often anymore, dwindles away.