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Title: L'Atelier xt.r Vented versus Nirvana HW to keep?
Post by: Bob D on January 11, 2019, 05:36 AM
I usually tend to fly quads  or my Mini Gem when the wind is up. I like a vented dual when the wind speed is at the lower end to trick in. It's a lot harder to trick in when the wind is higher and the vents are opened so I probably don't fly them as much.

My flight time has really decreased when I lost the accessibility to Liberty State Park in Jersey City 6 years ago and re-located to Upstate NY. I really miss those great off shore breezes. An hour and a half drive was totally worth it. So I have a lot of great kites that I don't get a lot of flight time out of.

I really like the L'Ateliers because they're so easy to pitch into a turtle. The Nirvanas are harder for me because it seems to take a lot more effort but I like the panel lay out more. They're beautiful kites and great to look at in the sky. (I read about modding it but I'm not comfortable making changes to the bridle or other big changes. Additional weight on the tail might make it pitch easier maybe.)

If you had to pick one to keep and one to sell, I'd be interested to hear which you'd prefer to keep and why. (I'm the second owner of the Nirvana and bought it maybe 7 or 8 eight years ago. I wasn't aware that there were different models - this one doesn't have covered stand offs and apparently a later model has covered ones.)


Title: Re: L'Atelier xt.r Vented versus Nirvana HW to keep?
Post by: Kareloh on January 11, 2019, 06:53 AM
I used to have a set of XTr's. Used the kites for Tricksparty competition. I didn't really like the VV in high windspeeds. I did like it with the vents closed as a heavy STD in winds a bit to high for the normal XTr STD.

Never owned a Nirvana HW. I did try the NSE HW a few times and that particular model is very good.


Title: Re: L'Atelier xt.r Vented versus Nirvana HW to keep?
Post by: Bob D on January 11, 2019, 07:56 AM
Do you remember what the Nirvana HW could do and what the wind speed was like? I like the Nirvana's venting system. The venting panels were either fully vented, partially vented to the middle Velcro tab, or not vented (last Velcro tab the width of the panel).


Title: Re: L'Atelier xt.r Vented versus Nirvana HW to keep?
Post by: Kareloh on January 11, 2019, 11:23 AM
The STD Nirvana can be flown in quite some wind. This is a video of my STD with 7pt lower spreaders and the reverse turbo bridle in about 25km/h.

http://kareloh.com/ickytv_wp/wordpress/2017/04/29/nirvana-standard/ (http://kareloh.com/ickytv_wp/wordpress/2017/04/29/nirvana-standard/)

The HW is quite capable as well IIRC...