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Title: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 17, 2010, 02:09 AM
I am a kite Designer and kite maker for more then 20 years, I compete seen 1988 and fly all my kites, I start from an Old school and New school, if you have any question about SD and Fearless kites please feel free to ask me anytime. Remember only SD and Fearless kite, I don't know any other kite. I don't like comparing from one kite to the other. I don't like to go in to the forum anymore because many problem in here. Everyone have different taste. Every kite have different feel, so please do what you want and buy what you like. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. Please go to the next table and some will join you there. No one ask you to come here and cause more problem for other people that want to know learn about kitting. Kitting should be fun and help each other not here to fight and see who is the winner. If you want to compete with me, four line and two line from 1 MPH to 35 MPH.  I will see you on the beach face to face anytime. We all live and learn from each other. Remember that. Thanks for reading this.
Have a great day everyone. Take care.

Lam


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: obijuankenobe on March 17, 2010, 02:24 AM
I have a feeling the moderators have gone and made me miss some of the fireworks here, dang it.

Seriously Lam, don't take ANY of this stuff personally.  Debate about your kites can only be good for you and your craft, which by the way all of us here are interested in having around for a long time to come. 

Folks were making crazy sounding claims regarding the magic of the Fearless, and others are just calling their bluffs.  Any personal attacks are just crazy, and miss the point of the forum.  Unfortunately, it is an open forum, so this happens from time to time.  I think these sorts of debates are wonderful, and as long as we can stay humorous and calm, they make the forum a joy to read and post in.  Could it be better?  Sure.  But if all the threads were sunshine and unicorns, it would all be sorta...lame.  Passion is good.

No one is suggesting that you are marketing your kite dishonestly, or making claims you can't back up.  That's for sure, so rest easy.  You build amazing kites and are master of your craft.  You are losing ZERO face here.

obi



Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 17, 2010, 02:41 AM
Thanks OBI.

One more thing guy, please go and practice and get good at it, maybe some day you might get an invitation to many place to fly with many great pilot around the world, don't sitting here and wasting your time. The reason I am say this because I have many invitation to many country to fly kite and get to travel over the place, drinking beer, eat good food fly on beautiful beach meet nice friend. This year I will be in Viet Nam, France, Malysia and Viet Nam again and few more other, everything pay for and just have fun flying kite and have a great time. So do you think this is a good idea or not? Play safe and have fun out there.

Lam


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: ezme6 on March 17, 2010, 03:32 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: inewham on March 17, 2010, 03:51 AM
Hi Lam,
I've read claims of some very wide wind ranges for your unvented UL. Do you recommend flying them in 20mph+ and feel confident they will suffer no harm as a result? Do you personally consider the UL still usable in 20mph or would you prefer to switch to a standard or vent by 20mph.

Honestly, no cynicism intended - if you have developed a UL that will happily fly in 20mph I'm genuinely impressed. Unfortunately I'm not likely to get to try one over here (UK) to find out for myself any time soon and its a lot of money to spend on a kite I've not tried first...

Cheers
Ian



Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 17, 2010, 04:42 AM
Hello Ian,

I will give you the wind range for all my Fearless kites:

SUL fly from 1 to 10 mph

Light fly from 3 to 25 + mph in high wind this kite will go little faster

Std fly from 3 to 25 + Mph and enjoy the high wind condition

Vented Light fly from 3 to 25+ mph, this kite design for wind that go up and down, bumpy wind, so you can enjoy in this kind of wind condition.

Vented Std fly from 3 to 30 mph comfortable and with out worry breaking your kite.

You need three set of line, 50 lb, 90 lb and 150 lb for high wind at 120'

All the Fearless kites have been tested by me personally.

If I go fly, I only need three kites:SUL, Vented light and Vented Std and the wind anywhere from 1 to 30 Mph. if you don't fly in high wind then forget the Vented Std.

I hope this give you a clear answer. Hope that help.

Thanks for listening.

Lam



Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: temoniprince on March 17, 2010, 04:58 AM
LAMS kites rocks ! i flew the LIGHT  in 20+ mph and it was 3pts in the LE. and it flew 100% i could not really trick it since i didnt have much weight in it however the traction of it was amazing did he contest and rocked it. if a light could do that then any of his kites could do it. 

p.s LAM ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 17, 2010, 05:00 AM
Hi Lam,
I've read claims of some very wide wind ranges for your unvented UL. Do you recommend flying them in 20mph+ and feel confident they will suffer no harm as a result? Do you personally consider the UL still usable in 20mph or would you prefer to switch to a standard or vent by 20mph.

Honestly, no cynicism intended - if you have developed a UL that will happily fly in 20mph I'm genuinely impressed. Unfortunately I'm not likely to get to try one over here (UK) to find out for myself any time soon and its a lot of money to spend on a kite I've not tried first...

Cheers
Ian



Hello Ian,

If you can make the Cratock weekend, I will be there with my 4 Fearless kites  (SUL, UL, STD and Vented STD). You will more than welcome to try the kites.

Richard Rymer


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: lasapcheong on March 17, 2010, 05:47 AM
One more thing guy, please go and practice and get good at it, maybe some day you might get an invitation to many place to fly with many great pilot around the world, don't sitting here and wasting your time. The reason I am say this because I have many invitation to many country to fly kite and get to travel over the place, drinking beer, eat good food fly on beautiful beach meet nice friend. This year I will be in Viet Nam, France, Malysia and Viet Nam again and few more other, everything pay for and just have fun flying kite and have a great time. So do you think this is a good idea or not? Play safe and have fun out there.

Lam

Lam, forget about the forum talk. A bunch of us from Singapore are going up to Vietnam next week too. Really looking forward to meeting you for the first time and flying and learning from you :) (Hope you have a Fearless out there so I can play with it)

-Darryl


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Winged V on March 17, 2010, 06:23 AM
Lam,
I am glad to see you HERE again !


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 17, 2010, 08:26 AM


Vented Light fly from 3 to 25+ mph, this kite design for wind that go up and down, bumpy wind, so you can enjoy in this kind of wind condition.



This is why I ended up ordering the FVL over the STD  and so far :) ;) :D ;D :P
You either like how Lam's kites fly or you don't. I do. I'm pretty impressed with the wind range and very happy with how the kite tricks. Fits me well.

Peace


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: xuzme720 on March 17, 2010, 08:28 AM


Vented Light fly from 3 to 25+ mph, this kite design for wind that go up and down, bumpy wind, so you can enjoy in this kind of wind condition.



This is why I ended up ordering the FVL over the STD  and so far :) ;) :D ;D :P
You either like how Lam's kites fly or you don't. I do. I'm pretty impressed with the wind range and very happy with how the kite tricks. Fits me well.

Peace
If I can ever get my hands on one to see if it likes me, I am thinking one of these could be in my future!


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: jaydub on March 17, 2010, 11:17 AM
If you can make the Crantock weekend, I will be there with my 4 Fearless kites  (SUL, UL, STD and Vented STD). You will more than welcome to try the kites.
Richard,

Does the queue start now?  If I make it down, I'd love to give one a go just to see whether they live up to their reputation.

Jon


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: streamhawk on March 17, 2010, 11:34 AM
Lam, I'd venture a guess that all the discussion of your kites has probably generated more interest in them than anything else.

Bill


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: bigwheels on March 17, 2010, 12:41 PM

If anybody would like to try some of the Fearless line I'm traveling south from Oregon this Fri afternoon & will be in Chico Ca. Sat. afternoon & then in San Diego next Mon. thru Fri. I'll have the S,SUL,L, & STD Vented.

Hope I have somebody to fly with.  Sherrell








Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: DWayne on March 17, 2010, 12:48 PM
I'd be happy to join you at Wildwood Park for a fly. I'd like to at least be able to say I've seen one of Lam's kites.

Denny


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Steve Hall on March 17, 2010, 02:07 PM
Sounds like a plan.

You remember where Wildwood Park is Sherrell?  Pretty sure we flew there last time you were here.  At the entrance of Upper Bidwell Park behind the fire station on East Ave. in the NE corner of Chico.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 17, 2010, 02:54 PM
I want to thank you to Steve and everyone here, allow me to speak about my kite & my self

I wish I could see you all at the same place so we can have fun together. Hopefully we will meet some where some day on the field and you can try any kite you like. Today is beautiful sunny day and my kites is calling me and I am so busy to get ready for my trip next week. if you have the time please go out fly now:) Play safe and enjoy your day:)

Please try to understand, my kite does not make everyone smile, so if you don't like it, I have no problem with that. Please try the next one :))) Thank you.

Remember no kite no fun, make the kite work for you not you work for the kite.

Darryl my friend I will see you and all your friend very soon on the side of the planet. Wow that is cool. Take care.

Thanks again everyone.

Good day :)

Lam



Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: xuzme720 on March 17, 2010, 03:12 PM
Thank you, Lam, for not only your designs, but your well wishes also! I do hope to meet you as well, but if that isn't to be, I would definitely love to try one of your kites and if it likes me, give it a good home.... :D


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 17, 2010, 03:43 PM
Thanks Lam, I'm going flying!!!!!!

C ya

Peace


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 19, 2010, 05:13 AM
If you can make the Crantock weekend, I will be there with my 4 Fearless kites  (SUL, UL, STD and Vented STD). You will more than welcome to try the kites.
Richard,

Does the queue start now?  If I make it down, I'd love to give one a go just to see whether they live up to their reputation.

Jon

I will be there Friday, Sat and Sun. I am the old man, bald, with a beard. With the 4 kites, I guess there should not be a problem with the wind. An if it is around 8 mph all 4 should be able to fly. See you there.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: jaydub on March 20, 2010, 04:22 PM
I will be there Friday, Sat and Sun. I am the old man, bald, with a beard. With the 4 kites, I guess there should not be a problem with the wind. An if it is around 8 mph all 4 should be able to fly. See you there.
Richard,

We met last year, so finding you is much less of a problem than getting there.

Unfortunately it's starting to look as though work commitments may get in the way.  We'll have to see.

How do find the Fearless compares to the other top end boutique kites in your collection?

Jon



Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Beachbum on March 20, 2010, 05:05 PM
Hi Lam,

First question.  Why did you drop your old "Skymaster" user ID?  :D

The man who knows how to break the Fearless,

Britt


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 20, 2010, 07:22 PM
Hey brother, long time no talk. I have been busy for little while and now I am back in kitting again. Fly more than before and try to ketch up with you guy:) still learning new thing...

I have the Sky Master user name in the old forum and haven't go in there for long time and forgot my pass word, so I sign up the new user name for the new forum. I am old now and I have short term memories lost some time :) Is there any problem with that and why you asking? maybe you have a better name for me:) I will buy it from you:)

Take care

Lam


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Beachbum on March 20, 2010, 08:01 PM
maybe you have a better name for me:) I will buy it from you:)

Lamchop?  $1
Lamster?  $1
HamHoacs?  I'll pay you $5
Lam the Fearless?  Priceless

Fly more than before and try to ketch up with you guy:) still learning new thing...

I don't think my skill in breaking other's kites, especially pre-production protoypes is a skill that you should reach for!


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: ko on March 20, 2010, 09:37 PM
hi lam!! just wanted to say hi from another happy fearless owner  flew the light today what a pleasure
thanx KO      (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dLi_8FA6nA4/S2DsKljrlhI/AAAAAAAAAps/MLzNxOMrSSc/s400/the%20gang%20004.jpg)


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Fearless Object on March 20, 2010, 11:19 PM
Thanks KO, I glad you had fun out there:) Today wind was up and down all day, I flew my Sul and 6 stack Rev one most of the day. Lots of fun. Now I am getting ready for my trip so I can more fun on the beach in VN. very cool to meet more flyer from 25 country:)))

Take care my friend.

Lam


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: KaoS on March 20, 2010, 11:47 PM
Now I am getting ready for my trip so I can more fun on the beach in VN. very cool to meet more flyer from 25 country:)))


See you there...Revs at 20 paces  ;D


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: DWayne on March 22, 2010, 09:38 AM
So Steve, did you get to fly the Fearless?


Denny


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 23, 2010, 03:04 AM
I will be there Friday, Sat and Sun. I am the old man, bald, with a beard. With the 4 kites, I guess there should not be a problem with the wind. An if it is around 8 mph all 4 should be able to fly. See you there.
Richard,

We met last year, so finding you is much less of a problem than getting there.

Unfortunately it's starting to look as though work commitments may get in the way.  We'll have to see.

How do find the Fearless compares to the other top end boutique kites in your collection?

Jon



Not an easy question to answer because the kites are so different.

By different i mean: There are precision kites that can do tricks, and there are trick kites that can do precision.

I just can not see, and I do not think it would look good, a person flying a Fearless, Exile or seVen (or QPro - Not part of the collection) as a true Freestyle kite. Always moving from one trick to another without pause or straight line flight. The kites are designed to more across the wind window and made a perfect snappy turn.

Nor can I see someone doing precisions forms with a DS, Talon or Gem. Those kite look best when they are performing slack line moves with no or very little straight line flight between each slack line trick.

It is said that the Fearless and the Exile and others have certain tricks built in to the design. True but what does that mean. The kite is very forgiving with the inputs that are necessary to perform the trick. BUT....

It is like comparing a high powered sedan to a sports car. They are not the same but they each has there own qualities, good and not so good.

Do I favor one type of kite over the other?   NO.   Variety is the spice of life!  ;D ;D

Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: obijuankenobe on March 23, 2010, 03:29 AM
Here's what can be done on a DS, and I have to say...the precision ain't bad given that this is the afore mentioned pure freestyle kite.

Dope.

Beach freestyle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHTT9WGCkk#)


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 23, 2010, 12:20 PM
Thank You Obijuan for helping me show my point. The DS does fly straight lines when needed but it is a much better freestyle kite.

By the way, Great Video. I wish I could do the stuff you do half as good.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: jaydub on March 23, 2010, 12:24 PM
And thank you, Richard, for an informed and well balanced statement about the pros and cons of the different high end boutique kites (although some may beg to differ)


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: misterbleepy on March 24, 2010, 08:11 AM
Thank You Obijuan for helping me show my point. The DS does fly straight lines when needed but it is a much better freestyle kite.

By the way, Great Video. I wish I could do the stuff you do half as good.

Actually, I think that's Lars Fakkeldij flying in that video.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 24, 2010, 10:46 AM
Thank You Obijuan for helping me show my point. The DS does fly straight lines when needed but it is a much better freestyle kite.

By the way, Great Video. I wish I could do the stuff you do half as good.

Actually, I think that's Lars Fakkeldij flying in that video.

After looking at the video a couple more times, I think you are correct. It was just I am not use to seeing so much sky in Lars' videos. He is usually always 2 feet off the ground.  ;)

But hat sure looked like him and his hand movements in the beginning of the video.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: fidelio on March 24, 2010, 02:15 PM
anOldMan, i completely agree with you, but be prepared to have your mind blown.

Sportkitedesign Seven freestyle (http://vimeo.com/8663227)

sorry for the disruption lam but i couldn't figure out how to have the forum code not automatically embed the video. if it's possible to link the video without automatically embedding it please let me know so i can change it.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: John Welden on March 24, 2010, 05:31 PM
anOldMan, i completely agree with you, but be prepared to have your mind blown.


I'd way rather watch Lars Fakkeldij fly.  My mind isn't blown.  Just looks like a yoyo based tricks demonstration.  I'm not saying it was easy, just boring to watch after about 30 seconds.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: JimB on March 24, 2010, 05:59 PM
Great flying by both Lars and Adrian.

Thanks Guys.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 24, 2010, 07:22 PM
There is a LOT more than just Yo-Yo based tricks on that video :)


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: GEB on March 24, 2010, 07:58 PM
+2
That level of flying is impressive regardless of the kite used. After spending 2 hours flying today in almost perfect wind for a Nirana UL and Exile Standard I was quite pleased with my progress. Then I watch this level of flying and realize how much room I have for improvement and the untapped potential that exists in these kites.  My sincere thanks to Lam and those like him who dedicates the time and effort to provide us the opportunity to excel in this sport.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: John Welden on March 24, 2010, 08:20 PM
There is a LOT more than just Yo-Yo based tricks on that video :)

You're right, he did land a couple of times.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: anOldMan on March 25, 2010, 12:22 AM
Sorry Lam, I seemed to have hijacked you thread.

Let's get back to questions for Lam about his kites.  :)

Lam, When are you going to update your WEB site with information about the new vented Fearless kites?  And, have you changed the bridle on the Std Vented? Mine is a three point bridle. 


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Kantaxel on March 25, 2010, 01:11 AM
Not to be speaking for Lam.................pretty sure he's away flyin'...........but the word on the street is that the turbo is gonna be standard on the vents...........................I think he oughta retrofit all the current vents.......you know....................sorta like Toyota.......... ;D


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 25, 2010, 09:26 AM
As per Lam, here are the current Fearless bridles:

SUL = Turbo
Light = 3 point
Standard = 3 point
Vented Light = Turbo
Vented Standard = Turbo


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: freecheese on March 25, 2010, 09:27 AM
Sorry Lam, I seemed to have hijacked you thread.

There was a Sea Devil in that video of the Deep Space, so we're ok.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: cids on March 25, 2010, 09:30 AM
What is the different between the Fearless Vent Light and the Vent STD ? More openings or holes in the Vent STD ?

3 point bridle vs. Turbo bridle
What are the advantages and disadvantages among them ?


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 25, 2010, 09:39 AM
The Vented Light is framed  with 3pts and the Standard with 5pts. The sail is the same.


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: ko on March 25, 2010, 10:19 AM
i am wondering what the turbo does for the SUL any body flown both??  thanx KO


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: freecheese on March 25, 2010, 10:28 AM
I have, but I haven't used the three point for a while. I was switching bridles last week to compare, but I became terribly confused and aborted the mission before I completely messed things up.  ::)


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: cids on March 25, 2010, 01:44 PM
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The Vented Light is framed  with 3pts and the Standard with 5pts.

The vented light is framed with 3PT leading edges or lower spreaders ?


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: Dolphinboy on March 25, 2010, 01:55 PM
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The Vented Light is framed  with 3pts and the Standard with 5pts.

The vented light is framed with 3PT leading edges or lower spreaders ?

Both the LEs and LS are 3pts on the Vented Light


Title: Re: Anyone have question please talk to me. Ty
Post by: freecheese on March 25, 2010, 03:19 PM
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Both the LEs and LS are 3pts on the Vented Light

I'm pretty sure the lower spreaders are 5pt, but you can sub 3pt when necessary.