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Title: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: jeepersjoey on March 22, 2010, 07:56 PM
Yea...I figure it has been asked before.

I have a 58" light wind kite that is a blast.  I am now looking for a larger (i.e. slower) kite that will float well enough that I can move to the next level...controlled float and tricks.

My little 58"r is a blast but the small size makes it difficult to snap stall.

Recommendations?


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: Allen Carter on March 22, 2010, 08:36 PM
Well, you don't have to snap stall kites in low/no wind. They stall regardles...

 :)

Usually smaller kites are much easier to stall than larger kites, so I'm not sure if that's the goal.

A new full size indoor kite is costly. The new Prism 4D isn't a big kite but looks to be an excellent no/low trainer. I only flew it in 5MPH, but folks I trust spoke highly of it. It seems like the modern version of the classic Wren, which is generally the best indoor trainer IMHO.

The only full size (7' or larger?) indoor kites that might be had for under $200 would be on the used market. Prism Vapors sometimes come up that cheap, but rarely. I bought one for $200 a couple years ago. Prism Ozones (more like 6'?) work ok indoors but are a bit more effort. Seen a lot of good flying with them. There are a range of other old skool indoor kites but they only come up from time to time.



Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: adx1592 on March 22, 2010, 09:00 PM
Skyburner ProDancer SUL  :)


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: chrispie on March 23, 2010, 12:36 AM
or Airwave.. very floaty.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: anOldMan on March 23, 2010, 01:26 AM
If you can find it used, the Benson Inner Space would fit you request. It is 7.5 feet, weights 5 oz. and will fly from 0 (indoors) to 5 mph.

The cost new plus shipping is over your $200 limit.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: thief on March 23, 2010, 04:28 PM
Peter Betancourt Am1?

floaty....big.....unflown...made by a master.....one piece of material for the skin.....

and of course PINK! (refer to this thread http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=2573.0 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=2573.0))

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Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: chilese on March 23, 2010, 06:49 PM
Ooohhhh, that's pretty.  :P


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: DWayne on March 23, 2010, 07:23 PM
You might look into a Kitehouse Sissy.  ;)


Denny


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: jeepersjoey on April 02, 2010, 07:53 PM
Ordered a Quantum Pro SUL today.  I think this might take care of my need.

Also got the 4D today...good stuff!


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: rxburner on April 03, 2010, 09:12 AM
You should look at the Reflection by Focus Kites,,, it is just $50 over your budget and a true indoor kite compared to the one you ordered.
Rx


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: adx1592 on April 03, 2010, 09:16 AM
going on what RX said,
the Echo by focus is very nice too.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: rxburner on April 03, 2010, 09:22 AM
going on what RX said,
the Echo by focus is very nice too.


I have not flown the Echo.... it is in his price range, but smaller....
I would love to get my hands on one for a few hours.
Rx


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 09:36 AM
iNak and NikNak are also sweet - very floaty and love rotational tricks. 

These indoor kites are generally pretty limited modern trick-wise (esp compared to real SULs) so keep that in mind.   

If you found a new QPro SUL for $200 thats a pretty good deal.  I think the SUL is the best of the QPro line.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $20
Post by: Kantaxel on April 03, 2010, 04:33 PM
If you found a new QPro SUL for $200 thats a pretty good deal.  I think the SUL is the best of the QPro line.

Right!   :-X

Two hundred?  I'll take ten!

 :(


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: ko on April 03, 2010, 08:35 PM
the QP sul was also my favorite but if you are expecting it to fly in the range you specified you did not do your homework the 4d will cover you though


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: xuzme720 on April 03, 2010, 08:54 PM
the QP sul was also my favorite but if you are expecting it to fly in the range you specified you did not do your homework the 4d will cover you though
I have to agree. I flew both today for the first time and wind started at basically 0. I had to move to keep the 4D in the air but then as it picked up the QP SUL took over handily when the frame was flexing on the 4D(minor flexing, still inside it's range. winds never got over 8 mph today). Mine didn't come with yo-yo stoppers (I got it used, need to fix that) but it handled everything I could throw at it (admittedly, that's not much, but I liked the feel while doing my limited repertoire  :-[ )

The 4D isn't what I would call a "full size" kite but with both, you are definitely covered for zero to low winds...


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: jeepersjoey on April 04, 2010, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the infos!

The SUL was $319, so yes, I was out of my price range but the timing was right for going to the TOP of my range.

I have a 0-8mph kite already and love it.  However it is 58".  The 4D was bought to "replace" the current light wind kite because it is 58" and fast.

I wanted a light-0 wind BIG kite that was slow enought that I can learn stuff on.  I emphasis was on the LARGE size, and that it will fly in light/low winds. 

When I watch the other kiters in the area, they all have the 84-92" wingspan low wind kites and they are very manuverable.  I would fly my little light wind 58"r and could not do much because it was all over the sky.  Even the local expert said "if you can fly this thing you can fly anything".  He recommended the Qpro SUL as #2 with the Fearless being #1.

I look forward to the 4D today.  I hope that PRISM can deliver the QPro quickly as I am a Christmas Eve rather than Christmas DAY kinda guy.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: ko on April 04, 2010, 05:00 PM
sorry jeep but i am missing something where is the large 0 wind kite you are refering to ? the QP is good at 3 and up at least for me otherwise it is a lot of work IMO dont get me wrong it is a great kite but the exile does that and more for less $$


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: jeepersjoey on April 04, 2010, 07:41 PM
The Quantum Pro SUL is 1-6 according the web.  That is what I want.  At this point I (actually) do not want a 0 wind, only indoor kite.

I really like the wind in my hair (albiet bald hair) and I think the 1-6 SUL is what I am looking for.  If not...it will be in the FOR SALE section!  hehe

As stated...I do have the 4D.

I live in Colorado so the wind occillates rather than blows.   I have the heavy wind Quantum (flies like a COW) so I am set there.


Title: Re: Recommended full size (or close to it) indoor/very light wind kite under $200?
Post by: DaveH on April 05, 2010, 01:41 PM
I have the QPSUL and have flown it a bunch. Not really my cup of tea, but that's ok.  Here's a trick for you:
If you're out flying your QP and the wind drops to the point that its too much work, disconnect the outer standoffs and let them hang in the breeze (you did put CA on the caps, didnt you?). This will significantly increase forward drive at the expense of pitch based performance. The only thing you'll notice it in are rollups, which aren't the best idea with a delicate SUL anyway.  Just something I discovered by accident and works well for me.