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Title: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 05:58 PM
I went out for a few hours and learned how to fly a vented Rev today!  :)

Thanks for the tutorials John, I am sure I could not have done it without them.

I tried it once last year, but just didn't get it - I was trying everything from my dual line experience and gave up after some frustration.  Sadly, I did not know how to wrap the lines properly at that time. 

Consequently, I spent the first half hour today unravelling everything (I wish I had seen the first tutorial last year).

After all that, and 30 mins or so of experimentation, I really did end up having some fun.  I can hover, turn, spin, land, glide.   I recently injured my ankle, so I may end up getting some more time on these in the near term.

Thanks again for the tutorials and keep em coming!



Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: ezme6 on April 03, 2010, 06:51 PM
Careful...you might find it hard leaving the darkside... :D

Everytime I walk by my Rev's I feel a strange sensation coming off of them...


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Beachbum on April 03, 2010, 08:27 PM
That's cool man.  In the two years I was down in San Diego I picked up a Rev maybe two or three times during the club meetings.

Not to tangent your thread, but is it me or is it easier to learn on Race Rods?  I tried Ben's prototype "Raced" Rev and I was actually able to keep it in the air and "feel it out".


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: xuzme720 on April 03, 2010, 08:34 PM
I can't say as I've never flown a Race Rodded Rev... but I basically taught myself how to fly with the help of the training DVD. It's a real blast when it starts to make sense and you can actually make it do what you were trying to make it do!


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 03, 2010, 09:48 PM
Tpatter,

Good job!!

I'm in your neck of the woods so if ya ever want to fly let me know!!

Btw, be prepared......I started with one and have 4 now :D :D



Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
Just saw your kite bag......if those are all your Fearless kites......we need to talk. LOL :D :P


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 10:15 PM
That's cool man.  In the two years I was down in San Diego I picked up a Rev maybe two or three times during the club meetings.

Not to tangent your thread, but is it me or is it easier to learn on Race Rods?  I tried Ben's prototype "Raced" Rev and I was actually able to keep it in the air and "feel it out".

Could be something to that -  although I've never tried those rods. 

I was flying the vent in winds from 15-20mph or so which I do think helped.  I had no issues with getting the kite to fly, but more of learning how to control where it went and how fast it went there, which was a good place to start.  :)   I can see how doing gentle glides across the window with the kite at various angles can be lots of fun.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 10:18 PM
Just saw your kite bag......if those are all your Fearless kites......we need to talk. LOL :D :P


Errrrrr - ummmmmmm.......that is my set  minus the Tattoo - I like the vivid colors.  My sons are all black.  I don't think its due to the color - but his all fly better than mine!

Just don't talk about how much they cost if my wife happens to be present when/if we meet!  :)
 


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 03, 2010, 10:35 PM
Just saw your kite bag......if those are all your Fearless kites......we need to talk. LOL :D :P


Errrrrr - ummmmmmm.......that is my set  minus the Tattoo - I like the vivid colors.  My sons are all black.  I don't think its due to the color - but his all fly better than mine!

 

Notice the smiley face laughing....it was a joke.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 03, 2010, 10:37 PM
Just saw your kite bag......if those are all your Fearless kites......we need to talk. LOL :D :P


Just don't talk about how much they cost if my wife happens to be present when/if we meet!  :)
 

Sounds good to me "when and if" we meet of course. Was mainly offering to fly revs with ya since I know how and all.

Choice is yours.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Kantaxel on April 03, 2010, 10:45 PM
So Tom,
Does your vent have the SLE rod or 4 wraps?/or?

Jim


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 10:49 PM

Sounds good to me "when and if" we meet of course. Was mainly offering to fly revs with ya since I know how and all.

Choice is yours.

Love to fly together and I can surely use some pointers!  :)  Didn't mean to sound like I was copping any sort of attitude - life's too short for that bs.

I am often at kite hill most late afternoons on sat/sun if the weather permits.  In the summer, often for the last hour of daylight - the wind is so sweet at that time.

Where do you usually fly?


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 10:54 PM
So Tom,
Does your vent have the SLE rod or 4 wraps?/or?

Jim

I am embarrassed to say that I have no idea what you are asking me!  :)  It has one solid rod (rather big) - perhaps Steve knows, I got it from him.

It's a sweet flyer, lots of control even in the bumpy stuff we had today.  At one point, Eli told me that I was looking pretty good, so I gotta take that to the bank! 

I'd like to get back out and try the B-series that I have in some lower winds.  Maybe tomorrow if I don't eat too much ham and take too long of a nap.  :)


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Kantaxel on April 03, 2010, 11:00 PM
Sounds like the SLE rod S-U-P-e-r leading edge>>>>>>>>>.about the diameter of your pinky?

I tried out our vent last weekend with 2 wrap/3 wrap leading edges and it gave me a heap more control ..lot's more than I ever had before.......winds were 15-22 MPH.

Just thought I'd ask :-\

Jim


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 03, 2010, 11:11 PM
Sounds like the SLE rod S-U-P-e-r leading edge>>>>>>>>>.about the diameter of your pinky?

I tried out our vent last weekend with 2 wrap/3 wrap leading edges and it gave me a heap more control ..lot's more than I ever had before.......winds were 15-22 MPH.


That must be it.  So the 2/3 rods that come with the B-series can be put on the 1.5 SLE vent?  Makes sense to me now.  I had forgotten that you can use the 2, the 3, or the 2+3 wrap rods.

Next question (what a tangent at this point).  If you fly the B-series with the 2 wrap, is that near the same low end wind range of the 1.5 SUL?


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Kantaxel on April 03, 2010, 11:39 PM
Not an expert Tom, but from what I've heard there is a pro rod now, too. Someone with real Rev knowledge will have to inform us both on that score.................The answer to your question is .....yes,  ;)
I think :o

Jim


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: sunsetflyers on April 04, 2010, 06:31 AM
yes and no on question the sul is made with a lighter material and the bridle is different the jb with 2 wrap is low wind your skill level has alot to do with it ive seen experianced vflyers fly with 4 wrap in 3 mile an hour wind


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Dano on April 04, 2010, 10:14 AM
Careful...you might find it hard leaving the darkside... :D

Exactly what he said, Tom!
"Be VERY Careful"

I went to give my 5th rev (a Blast) its maiden flight yesterday, and i for the first time, left all my dual lines kites at home.  ??? ???       :o

and yes, race rods rock. They are much ighter than the SLE and will help with precision in flying.

Just stay with the SLE for a bit more though as you are still getting the hang of it.
That SLE is a very durable rod for learning to fly. Enjoy!   


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: rxburner on April 04, 2010, 11:39 AM
Most people these days use the SLE rod to stake out their tomatoes or thrash loose dogs on the flying field.
The smaller diameter rods are the way to go. The Race Rod has pretty much replaced the 2 wrap and can be used in a little higher wind... going to the 3 then 4 as the wind picks up. There are a bunch of people experimenting with mixing the rods now,,,,, but I have not tried it.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 04, 2010, 08:18 PM

Sounds good to me "when and if" we meet of course. Was mainly offering to fly revs with ya since I know how and all.

Choice is yours.

Love to fly together and I can surely use some pointers!  :)  Didn't mean to sound like I was copping any sort of attitude - life's too short for that bs.

I am often at kite hill most late afternoons on sat/sun if the weather permits.  In the summer, often for the last hour of daylight - the wind is so sweet at that time.

Where do you usually fly?


No worries!! You're right, life is too short. Which is why I fly :D

I usually go to kite hill, Marymoor Park(Redmond) and 60 acre park(Kirkland/Redmond) and have even hit a spot off I-90 towards North Bend.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 04, 2010, 08:22 PM
Most people these days use the SLE rod to stake out their tomatoes or thrash loose dogs on the flying field.
The smaller diameter rods are the way to go. The Race Rod has pretty much replaced the 2 wrap and can be used in a little higher wind... going to the 3 then 4 as the wind picks up. There are a bunch of people experimenting with mixing the rods now,,,,, but I have not tried it.


Well, if someone happens to have an end piece to the trio of SLE rods I need one ;)


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 04, 2010, 08:26 PM
Race rods are stronger and pretty light as well as flexible BUT if you're still in the learning stage ya might want to stick with the SLE for now. As soon as you're done playing lawn dart with it......you're gonna love having a set. Really makes the kite flex more and the sail seems to absorb more wind making for a sweet fly.

Just got back from Whidbey took 5 kites with me and the wind was waaaay to high for flying the ones I had with me today. There was a guy flying a Quantum that had that thing screeeeeaaaaamin' through the air. No way I was gonna try it :o


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 04, 2010, 09:55 PM
Thanks for the advice on the SLE - I did notice that it does not bend much even when the wind picked up, but probably the right rod for starting out.  The first 10 mins or so I was hitting the ground pretty good with it until I figured out how to control the kite.

I won't bother upgrading until I get quite a few more hours on the lines.

I'm still loving dual line way too much to get too serious with my quads, but its fun for a change of pace.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 04, 2010, 10:19 PM
I'll assume you got set up with longer brake lines already? If not, I can show you. It was a tremendous help to me.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: REVflyer on April 06, 2010, 03:19 AM
adjust your tuning on the handles by placing the kite inverted on the ground.  Keep adding "Down" (shorting the break lines) until the kite will back-up inverted.  That is how much down you need, the amount varies by the conditions that day.

Practice holding the kite inverted until you get confident.  Fly it up to waist high, hold it there and then GENTLY lower it back to ground.  Both handles should be close together and your thumbs pushed forward towards the kite.

When you can do this half a dozen times in control, then double the height and do it again.  Eventually it should back up to the top of the window like it was on railroad tracks, perfectly smooth and at one uniform speed.  This will take many hours to perfect the technique.  Backing-up & hovering is why REVs are so much fun, in a single word "control"!  Imagine landing your kite into the hole on top a Coke can, balanced on top a fence post or into the outstretched hand of a small child inside a stoller!
-paul
(AKA revflyer)


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: Charly on April 12, 2010, 11:50 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side.  We have cookies... :D


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 13, 2010, 04:32 PM
Muuuhahahahahahaaaaaaa :P


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: thief on April 13, 2010, 05:38 PM
nder John ruggerios tutelage I just learned how to Axel a rev. the first time I had a rev in my hands in over a year.....have to try on a deca now....I have seen Curtiss Mitchell do that in the past....


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: lylenc on April 13, 2010, 07:04 PM
The SLE is my still my favorite when there is enough wind and I want snappy response. I learned quads on a Rev II, so I'm used to the extra twitchiness in it and the 1.5 SLE.

Precision or team flying isn't my thing most of the time, so the flex and dampening of control inputs isn't as critical. It must be admitted that the 2/3 wrap flex does make inverted rotation moves easier.

Rev II, vented Rev 1.5, and vented Rev II are my favorites, so the need for speed is more important than contol. Those winds also tend to clear the flying field of people and dogs, so a lot more wide-open space for unencumbered flying.  8)  :P


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: tpatter on April 13, 2010, 08:14 PM
I'll assume you got set up with longer brake lines already? If not, I can show you. It was a tremendous help to me.

I just hook things up and move the knots until it feels ok, but I'm doing this all on my own.  Send me a PM next time you are headed for kite hill and I'll see if I can make it.

It would be great to fly with someone - I rarely see revs out there.


Title: Re: Learned how to fly a Rev today!
Post by: socalman320 on April 13, 2010, 10:01 PM
I'll assume you got set up with longer brake lines already? If not, I can show you. It was a tremendous help to me.

I just hook things up and move the knots until it feels ok, but I'm doing this all on my own.  Send me a PM next time you are headed for kite hill and I'll see if I can make it.

It would be great to fly with someone - I rarely see revs out there.

Today would've been a great day to go out!! I've gone out to Whidbey quite a few times too in the last month.

Matter of fact I got some great pics of a guy kite boarding on the way to Fort Casey the last time out there.

I have quite a few kites coming my way in the next few days that I'll be itching to play with. This weekend looks like rain. Maybe after it passes we can get together and I'll bring a few Revs with or at least the one I have set up with longer brake lines so you could see what I mean.

We could always exchange #'s and text for last minute stuff too if you're interested.

Peace