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Title: how to support thread spool??
Post by: tommymcmillan on April 11, 2010, 04:06 AM
I finally finshed tapeing the kite :D,and parts of  the frame are starting to arrive ;D. How do I go about supporting/holding the large spool of  thread?? When I start to sew the kite. ???What's a good way to keep the needle from getting gummed upped by the seam tape?


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: fidelio on April 11, 2010, 06:11 AM
likely what you need is a cone thread holder.

(http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/graphics/00000001/holder2.jpg)(http://www.joann.com/images/03/57/1/xprd35711_m.jpg)


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: EBGB on April 11, 2010, 08:38 AM
Those thread stands work pretty good.

For the glue, if you're not going into some kind of big production, pick up a bottle of "Sewer's Aide" at your local sewing store. Use it to clean and lube your needle once in a while. Pick the little "buggers" off as they develope.


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: tcope on April 11, 2010, 09:17 AM
If the thread is off a spool, it need to come off from the top, not the side. Use the stand that Fidelio posted. It's inexpensive and does the trick. Some other tricks I recently picked up...

Douse the thread spool with silicon spray. Helps protect the thread once on the kite and also make it resistant to things like the glue you mentioned.

Stick some Velcro on the top of the machine and put some Sewers Aide on it. Run the thread through the two pieces of Velcro.

If you are using any type of glue, remove the bobbin housing after use and make sure it's clean. This can make a _big_ difference (on side loading bobbins there should be a horseshoe shaped part with a screw holding it in. Remove that and clean parts inside).


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: sunsetflyers on April 11, 2010, 11:55 AM
one of the best things to do is soak the thread with silicone spray like Todd said i was having same problem and did what Todd said and what a  huge differance  there is a topic on thread oilers in here with pictures of how to make with the velcro  great tool  and keep cleaning the  needle  Barry  Ogelbee told me to low heat with iorn on fabric with glue helps dry glue  just be careful  with heat


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: mikenchico on April 11, 2010, 12:06 PM
If you don't have easy access to one of those thread holders and are anxious to go you can simply cut the bottom off a 2 liter soda bottle or even a milk bottle & feed the thread through the spout from the bottom and sit the bottle over the thread cone. Keeps the dust & cats off your thread too.

You just need something that will allow the thread to pull freely off the cone from directly overhead and approximately line up height wise with the location of the standard thread holder.





Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: tcope on April 11, 2010, 12:21 PM
If you don't have easy access to one of those thread holders and are anxious to go you can simply cut the bottom off a 2 liter soda bottle or even a milk bottle
I did that and it was REALLY messy... Coke everywhere!

The milk was no less messy.
 
 :D


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: 711jrp on April 11, 2010, 04:05 PM
I use a bonded thread that is pre soaked in lubricant that I get from a more kite building related kite store, it works very well at stopping dropped stitches.in fact the cone will leak oil if left for a long time, so I keep it in a ziplock bag.


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: EBGB on April 11, 2010, 06:04 PM
The Velcro thread oiler posted at the "kitebuilding related site" was my design.
Worthwhile if your planning on building more than a few.

Go easy on the oil - too much can actually cause it's own set of problems.

Machines miss stitches for a number of reasons. When you're talking glue, your talking glue getting into the scarf on the back of the needle, gluing the thread to the needle. A little loop is supposed to form there as the needle starts back up, so the rotary hook can grab it and carry it around the bobbin.
Keep the scarf clean, and you don't have as many problems. Lubed thread keeps the scarf clean.

++ on the bonded thread. Bonded doesn't necessarly equal lubed though. Just glued together fibers. 


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: MB on April 11, 2010, 08:28 PM
I use a water bottle that just barely fits over the thread spool bottom.  It keeps the spool from slipping out and takes up little space.


Title: Re: how to support thread spool??
Post by: Will Sturdy on April 12, 2010, 06:38 AM
I've got an empty reel used to hold bulk bridle line that's got two bits of old spars in it - one on one side to support the thread and one on the other much taller with a nock in the end to run the thread through. I store a bunch of 3/8" hex nuts on it to give it enough mass to stay put. Never had any issues with it.
There are tons of ways to make a stand with random stuff lying around the house - no need to go out and buy anything  :)

I use dabond V-30 bonded polyester. I've never oiled the thread and have no lubrication system for it. The gum on the needle just randomly flies off when the glob gets big enough. On my current machine I have never had any problems that taking it apart and oiling the machine didn't fix.