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Title: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 25, 2010, 06:47 PM
I felt like i was highjacking Untitled's thread on the LaQuartz he did, so...
Here is my second kite in progress. This is the sail together and sewn, up to the point where the TE is added...

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1652.jpg)(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1647.jpg)
I'll add more pictures as I progress...


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: fidelio on April 25, 2010, 07:36 PM
very nice


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: ezme6 on April 25, 2010, 07:48 PM
yes very nice indeed, you are quite talented


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: Untitled on April 25, 2010, 07:50 PM
Looking good.  Your straight stitches look really straight.  Thats the one thing I really have a hard time with.


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 25, 2010, 08:48 PM
Thanks for all the very kind words!

The hardest thing I've noticed about sewing these is not letting the sail get in it's own way! I've had to come up with some novel ways to keep the sail from catching/binding on the body of the sewing machine, such as rolling, folding, bunching it up to get it out of the way.

My first straight stitches were anything but! I finally realized that my best bet was to use one hand on the front of the machine as a guide to keep the fabric feeding straight. Of course it won't work on the stand-off reinforcements because they are curved...


I'll be working on the CT reinforcement and the spine tension/tunnel next. I'll get some pictures...


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 29, 2010, 03:13 PM
Sorry I haven't been updating this. I am now waiting on the LE rods to arrive so I can finish this one...

Here it is with the spine in and just waiting for the LE...
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1653.jpg)(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1660.jpg)
A shot of the nose...
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1655.jpg)
A shot of the backside...
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1657.jpg)
some wingtip detail...
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1659.jpg)


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: Untitled on April 29, 2010, 11:48 PM
What are you framing it with?


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 30, 2010, 04:30 AM
The LE's are going to be P300. The spine is P2X. LS's are DynamicT10's I got from Steve awhile ago. US is 6mm carbon...

What did you do yours in?


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: Untitled on April 30, 2010, 10:57 AM
did 5PT Lower Spreaders, 6mm Upper, and P2X Spine/LE.


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 30, 2010, 03:48 PM
I might do the LLE in P2X's...they have a tiny bit more flex than the P300's... ::)


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 30, 2010, 06:48 PM
Ok... I have the kite done except for the bridle. Decided to change the frame a little.
As built: Spine/LLE-P2X, ULE-P300, US-6mm tube, LS-Dynamic T10, SO-3mm solid, Elbows and SO junctions-APA all around...
The fabric I used on this must have been the same stuff Untitled used, it wound up being pretty stretchy. I have some coated PE coming, so I'll be able to compare the 2.

Sorry about the weird lighting, I didn't use the flash... :-[
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1677.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1674.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1678.jpg)


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 30, 2010, 07:06 PM
Some backlighting for effect... :P

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa193/xuzme720/Kite%20stuff/DSC_1684.jpg)


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: Will Sturdy on April 30, 2010, 07:45 PM
Looking good!

The panel alignment is the most difficult part of that sort of layout (at least for me) and it looks like you got it all spot on!

By the way, you'll find that you get a lot fewer line wraps around the keel if you shorten it so it's more flush  ;)


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on April 30, 2010, 08:07 PM
Looking good!

The panel alignment is the most difficult part of that sort of layout (at least for me) and it looks like you got it all spot on!

By the way, you'll find that you get a lot fewer line wraps around the keel if you shorten it so it's more flush  ;)
Coming from a "real" builder, I'll take that as an extreme compliment!

I'm glad you said something about the spine/keel. I was kind of wondering about the length myself but was trying to keep to the plan on this one to keep the bridle adjustments to a minimum. Of course that is an extremely easy fix by shortening the spine rod a tad and it will not affect the bridle at all...

I still need to add the yo-yo stoppers and the weight. Have to hit HD or L for some brass tubing...


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: fidelio on May 01, 2010, 01:42 AM
holy smokes that's a nice looking kite. it appears you did a great job!


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: Will Sturdy on May 01, 2010, 06:49 AM
If you can't find any brass tubing, try 3/8" hex nuts. They are a simple way to get an adjustable weight system. Some call it crude, but it's a beautifully usable solution.
Each nut is ~7g.


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: fidelio on May 01, 2010, 07:00 AM
you may have to hit a hobby shop for brass tubing as small as you need.


Title: Re: new build-second sail La Quartz
Post by: xuzme720 on May 01, 2010, 07:17 AM
I probably have nuts already (wow, that didn't sound right) around here somewhere... I'll take a look!