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Title: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on March 30, 2009, 01:22 AM
Yesterday I went flying with a few friends and had a chance to try the Talon Vented (the very one that was won in VF11 in fact). To be honest I've not been a huge fan of vented kites (I recently sold my Akuji Vented) and have found that I would rather 'soldier on' with a standard than move to a vented. However, I was most pleasantly surprised by the Talon which felt very like an unvented kite (very like the standard in fact but with a bit more inertia). I only tried it out of curiosity but I did end up really rather wanting one. Another friend (not the owner) told me he had tried most vented kites and he thought it was the best he had flown - I haven't tried that many vented kites but the Talon is certainly the best of the ones I have tried.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Francois on March 30, 2009, 02:45 AM
Ditto here :P


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: WinterDaze on March 30, 2009, 05:55 AM
Got my hands on one for a while 2 weeks ago, and I soooo didn't want to hand the lines back  ;D
I don't think its going to make 30 mph fun but, it extended the range of the STD's fun zone out by another 30% easy.

Not to mention the looks. 8) smokin'


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on March 30, 2009, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the reports.
Sounds like I need to get one.

Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on March 30, 2009, 12:02 PM
If you already own the Standard and UL and like them then, yes, you should. If you haven't got either of them I would get them first.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on March 30, 2009, 12:11 PM
If you already own the Standard and UL and like them then, yes, you should. If you haven't got either of them I would get them first.

I really like my standard. My UL has been ordered. It should be here in the next few weeks. From what I've heard I'll probably like the UL as much or than the std.

Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on March 30, 2009, 12:34 PM
You might like the UL more - the balance is exquisite  ;). If you like the standard, and have the money, buy the vented without hesitation.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: jaydub on March 30, 2009, 01:20 PM
You might like the UL more - the balance is exquisite  ;). If you like the standard, and have the money, buy the vented without hesitation.
Mmmmmm.  UL or Vented?  UL or Vented?

Suffering from itchy purse stings. :)


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: portley777 on March 30, 2009, 01:31 PM
Got my hands on one for a while 2 weeks ago, and I soooo didn't want to hand the lines back  ;D

Mmm...who else has got one of these kites in the hood ey? Very nice kit there :)

Cheers,
Mike


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Adicakes on March 30, 2009, 04:20 PM
Max has the second one in Melbourne, yo.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on March 30, 2009, 04:25 PM

Mmmmmm.  UL or Vented?  UL or Vented?

Suffering from itchy purse stings. :)

That's easy - UL absolutely lovely kite to fly. You will fly the UL much more often than the vented - flies well into standard type winds.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on March 30, 2009, 06:02 PM
You might like the UL more - the balance is exquisite  ;). If you like the standard, and have the money, buy the vented without hesitation.
Mmmmmm.  UL or Vented?  UL or Vented?

Suffering from itchy purse stings. :)

You really need one of each, don't you?

Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: portley777 on March 30, 2009, 07:00 PM
Max has the second one in Melbourne, yo.
Well done Max! He's got good taste in kites :)

Cheers,

Mike


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: WinterDaze on March 30, 2009, 07:17 PM
Don't use that as an excuse not to bring your Vented 'T' down Mike, I'm sure we can make good use of the time. Or for that matter maybe it might be time to air out that really big kite  ::)

If injuries allow that is ;)


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: jaydub on March 30, 2009, 11:46 PM

Mmmmmm.  UL or Vented?  UL or Vented?

Suffering from itchy purse stings. :)

That's easy - UL absolutely lovely kite to fly. You will fly the UL much more often than the vented - flies well into standard type winds.
Yes, I sort of know that.  It's just that I've got a DS that almost does the UL job and I haven't got anything that goes above the Talon standard's wind range.  :-\


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on March 31, 2009, 03:11 AM
Hmm...that's true....the DS does go low. It's just that the UL is SOoooo nicely balanced (it's Mark Clements favourite). The vented does sound like the logical choice though. I guess it all depends on how often you feel that there is too much wind for the kites you have. You'll end with all three eventually anyway  ;).


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: bryan beasley on March 31, 2009, 01:23 PM
... You'll end with all three eventually anyway  ;).

As is the way of such things. ;-)

Bryan


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: jaydub on March 31, 2009, 02:14 PM
... You'll end with all three eventually anyway  ;).

As is the way of such things. ;-)

Bryan
You'd know, wouldn't you.  ::)


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on April 05, 2009, 04:08 PM
You might like the UL more - the balance is exquisite  ;). If you like the standard, and have the money, buy the vented without hesitation.

I ordered a vent.  8)

Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on April 06, 2009, 05:29 PM
flys in surprisingly little wind too.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on April 27, 2009, 02:17 PM
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii151/KenikeNui/Talon%20Set/DennyNickell3Small.jpg)

Should be here next week sometime.  ;D


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on April 30, 2009, 02:26 AM
Looks good (will certainly look very much better when free of Mark’s 'remarkable' interior design choices  :-X)

Let us know your thoughts in terms of performance (of course it will be all SUL wind for you now for ages).


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Jest_of_Eve on April 30, 2009, 11:01 AM
Looks good (will certainly look very much better when free of Mark’s 'remarkable' interior design choices  :-X)

Let us know your thoughts in terms of performance (of course it will be all SUL wind for you now for ages).


Just to set the record straight on the awful backdrop, it was Wendy wot dunnit, before I moved in.  :D

My choice would be white walls for maximum light reflection!
If I ever get the chance to decorate it


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on April 30, 2009, 01:44 PM
Yeah, Yeah  ;) (is she colour blind matey/)


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: benjai on April 30, 2009, 01:49 PM
Looks good (will certainly look very much better when free of Mark’s 'remarkable' interior design choices  :-X)

Let us know your thoughts in terms of performance (of course it will be all SUL wind for you now for ages).


Just to set the record straight on the awful backdrop, it was Wendy wot dunnit, before I moved in.  :D

My choice would be white walls for maximum light reflection!
If I ever get the chance to decorate it

Well starting from that base colour, figure on about 5 coats at least, or you'll end up with some pseudo-rag-rolled pink mess... I'd set aside a fortnight if I were you!!! It's probably cheaper just to line the lot with ripstop!!!


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on April 30, 2009, 02:17 PM
Some Birch panels and a few Walnut trim pieces and you can have that room looking proper in a weekend.  ;D
BTW, I think Richard Debray has a wall that same color.
http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=4726 (http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=4726)


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Jest_of_Eve on April 30, 2009, 02:20 PM
Some Birch panels and a few Walnut trim pieces and you can have that room looking proper in a weekend.  ;D
BTW, I think Richard Debray has a wall that same color.
[url]http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=4726[/url] ([url]http://www.revkites.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=4726[/url])


Denny


Yeah, but he's French. They can get away with that sh*t and still be cool  :D

Mark


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: fworley on April 30, 2009, 02:39 PM
Yeah, but he's French. They can get away with that sh*t and still be cool  :D
If it weren't for the fact he was holding a Rev ...

So hes just looks like any other Quad Spod

-Frazer


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on May 06, 2009, 04:36 PM
My set is complete now.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii151/KenikeNui/TalonVent006Small.jpg)

Pretty cool kite.  8)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii151/KenikeNui/TalonVent007Small.jpg)

The JoE Trick Straps are pretty cool too.  ;D


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Francois on May 07, 2009, 02:48 AM
Please send me those green leaders they don't match that beautiful kite :D


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on May 07, 2009, 05:34 AM
Please send me those green leaders they don't match that beautiful kite :D

They're actually flo yellow, but if you want a pair email me your address.  ;)


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on May 07, 2009, 11:23 AM

Let us know your thoughts in terms of performance (of course it will be all SUL wind for you now for ages).


Much to my surprise I had 15 to 20 mph wind when it arrived. More of the same today and predicted to stay the same for the next few days.  8)
The first hour I really didn't get it. Its the first vented kite I've flown. ( Except for a vented Rev, but kites with training wheels don't really count.  :D )  The second hour I started to get a feel for the stiffer frame, added weight, and different bridle.
Its pretty cool to be able to stand flat footed in 15 mph wind and do multi lazies or back spins. I think the next few days are going to be fun.  ;)


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Mark E Mark on May 07, 2009, 01:30 PM
Well, I had a fly of the Talon Vented today in some very strong wind. According to the wind meter of a fellow flyer the wind was gusting between 6 and 35mph! I was very surprised to find how stiff the frame of the Vented feels - I mean really exceedingly stiff. The wind was extremely gusty and very uneven and the Talon did take it surprisingly well - I've gotta do some stuff now but may post a bit more later.


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on June 05, 2009, 08:20 AM
Its taken a while for my little mind to "get" this kite. Its heavier and pulls harder than the standard. My instinct is to give bigger harder inputs. But with the stiffer frame and different bridle this kite actually needs smaller, better timed inputs. Counterintuitive? Seems to me. Any way, now that I'm starting to get it, I'm really liking this kite. It cascades in 15 mph wind with the same inputs the UL needs to cascade in 3 mph wind. And it does the flattest 540's and slots I've ever seen.


Denny


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: Jest_of_Eve on June 05, 2009, 01:38 PM
And it does the flattest 540's and slots I've ever seen.


Denny

And, up until the last couple of weeks it did the worst 540's and Slots anyone's ever seen!!  :D (relative to STD/UL)

Mark


Title: Re: Talon Vented
Post by: DWayne on June 06, 2009, 10:40 AM
And it does the flattest 540's and slots I've ever seen.


Denny

And, up until the last couple of weeks it did the worst 540's and Slots anyone's ever seen!!  :D (relative to STD/UL)

Mark

I don't know what you changed, but it sure worked.  ;D


Denny