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Title: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: cids on September 16, 2010, 05:31 PM
Where to buy a stunt kite's nose piece ?
Do I need a special sewing machine ?

*My kite pal want to built his own kite. I prefer to trick the kite and let the pro to make them.


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: DWayne on September 16, 2010, 05:38 PM
Where to buy a stunt kite's nose piece ?
The same place you buy the rest of the material from.

Denny


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: indigo_wolf on September 16, 2010, 06:02 PM
Do I need a special sewing machine ?


Not a "special" sewing machine, but a well made one.  At the lower price points, older machines are actually better made compared to their modern counterparts (strong motors, simpler to maintain, metal bodies/gears, etc.)

You might find this helpful:
Kite Sewing 101 - AKA Convention 2002 (http://members.cox.net/maggiekite/sew/sew101.html)

ATB,
Sam


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: tcope on September 16, 2010, 07:00 PM
Where to buy a stunt kite's nose piece ?
Junk yard... seat belt webbing can be used.


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: inewham on September 17, 2010, 12:32 AM
Do I need a special sewing machine ?


No. However life is much easier if the machine is serviced and set up for sewing ripstop.

Domestic machines will have the tension set for normal clothing fabrics and those settings don't always work well when sewing something really thin like Icarex. I thought I had adjusted my old machine well but when I got the Bernina I use now it was set up at a shop that was familiar with kite making and the difference was noticeable.

Many kitemakers prefer old Pfaff machines, especially those with a walking foot but all you need to get started is a basic straight stitch.


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: mikenchico on September 17, 2010, 06:41 AM
Is it hard to built a stunt kite ?

No, it is hard to Build a kite, once it's Built you tend to look back and wonder why that was so hard  :D  but seriously

Do I need a special sewing machine ?


No ... all you need to get started is a basic straight stitch.

The last few kites and a 600 foot + tail we've built have been on a New Home machine we got at a garage sale for $5.00 with a bunch of books and fabric included in that price. I prefer having a zig zag and a 3 stitch zig zag but Ian's right, a basic machine will do. Check your thrift stores etc for a decent used machine.

You'll need a snap blade cutter, some decent scissors, a soldering iron or woodburner, a cutting surface, a seam ripper, something to mark fabric with (I prefer tailors chalk there are wash off pens too), and I get a lot of use out of a 36" or 48" metal ruler.

Past that some patience and research, some good sites out there with step by step instructions, read them. Check out the forum at kitebuilder.com, they are geared more to helping people build kites.





Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: cids on September 17, 2010, 11:14 AM
Thanks for the tips.  :) :) :)


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: tpatter on September 17, 2010, 12:05 PM
I've got to think so!  I spent 3 hours building a new bridle board and bridle yesterday. 

Granted this was my first time and I imagine that the next one will only take me 15 minutes, but it took much more time than I thought it would.  And this is just a bridle copy - not a new design.  It looks like the worn original as near as I can tell, I'll see how it flys this weekend!  :)

Making a whole kite - it would take me a month.


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: DWayne on September 17, 2010, 02:02 PM
How hard it is? Well that depends.
To design and build a stunt kite that will fly = easy
To design and build a stunt kite you would want to fly = rather hard
To design and build a stunt kite others would want to fly = very hard
To design and build a stunt kite that people will wait months for and pay big bucks to get (considering there's only a handful of people in world doing it) = nigh on impossible.

Denny


Title: Re: Is it hard to built a stunt kite ???
Post by: tpatter on September 19, 2010, 01:18 PM
I've got to think so!  I spent 3 hours building a new bridle board and bridle yesterday. 
...
  And this is just a bridle copy - not a new design.  It looks like the worn original as near as I can tell, I'll see how it flys this weekend!  :)


Wow - it is tough to make an accurate copy of a bridle.  My big challenge was that I went from using 90# line to 150#, so the extra diameter comes into play when doing larks head and knots attaching to the LEs. 

Anyhow, I finally got it sorted out and just test-drove the new bridle in 14-19mph of wind and it works like a dream!  Actually, everything feels the same except for the Taz.  Somehow, my new bridle seems to go nose up more readily which helps to more easily hit that trick.  It makes no sense to me as the bridle dimensions when attached to the kite are exactly that of the original - perhaps I am just getting better at the Taz!  :)

-Tom