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Title: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Josiah on September 21, 2010, 11:39 AM
I really like flying multiple kites off a single anchor.  Something about it just seems so much more interesting when all this action in the air come down and terminates at a single point on the ground.  Most of my kites fly at a decent angle, the most "vertical" flyer I have is a 5' Delta-Coyne, which when loaded up with 100' feet of tail, leaves a little but of room for one more, very vertical flying kite.

After doing some reading, I am leaning towards a Genki.  I also considered a Rok and a delta.  I'm less interested in the delta, simply because I already have some delta-ish kites (G-ghost and the DC).  From what I've read, the Genki will fly a bit more vertically then a Rok. 

In the end, I decided to "ask the experts" before dropping a chunk of cash on another kite.  What do you think is the most vertical flying kite? Genki? Rok? Well-tuned delta? or something else entirely?


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: thief on September 21, 2010, 02:29 PM
one of the highest i know of would be a Dunton Taylor box delta...

Genkis are up there
The pointers from Ceewan are up there (all 3 types)
the designs form Dan Leigh are also high angles (and extended keels a preference of mine)
A guildworks Taper tail is a funky high angle one as well (going to be really hard to find though)


expert? not as much...
overly obsessed kite guy? yes


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Gamelord on September 21, 2010, 03:33 PM
You can try a Cody which can point pretty high and is also a great lifter.  Gomberg makes a 10'+ Falcon Delta which is a very high pointer.


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Fore Check on September 21, 2010, 04:13 PM
You can try a Cody which can point pretty high and is also a great lifter.  Gomberg makes a 10'+ Falcon Delta which is a very high pointer.


What you say about a Cody is true, but I don't think would be practical unless the wind was consistent and in that 10mph range; lulls and such and a Cody (like most other box kites) drops pretty dramatically.

You might try building a Double-Cross Pely:

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m225/fore_check/Double%20Cross%20Pely/First%20Flight%20011010/DSC00723.jpg)

Plan Here:  http://www.kitebuilder.com/wiki/pmwiki.php/KitePlans/00115 (http://www.kitebuilder.com/wiki/pmwiki.php/KitePlans/00115)

Pete Ross claims to have anchored his and flown it for about an hour with the kite finding a happy spot about 40-50' UPWIND of the anchor point.  That's a little extreme, but it is a *high* angle flier.

A Genki is a fine suggestion.  Another to throw out there would be a Fled, which also adopts a high line angle (60-70 degrees)


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: mikenchico on September 21, 2010, 04:56 PM
You're right on the money that a Genki will be a more vertical flier, but they have a tendency to overfly and may then circle back sweeping other kites out of the sky. A tail or drogue will rein them in a bit.



Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: thief on September 21, 2010, 05:22 PM
ooh..another one: Joel Scholz Triangulation (original one flys MUCH better than the go fly version)


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: ainokea on September 21, 2010, 07:16 PM
ooh..another one: Joel Scholz Triangulation (original one flys MUCH better than the go fly version)

Yeah, if you can find an original one that someone is WILLING to sell.  ;)


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Josiah on September 21, 2010, 09:30 PM
Genki it is!  I do admit the two delta designs mentioned, Gomberg's Falcon or Dan Leigh's, also seem ideal, well, other than my sort of arbitrary requirement of it not being a delta.

If I ever win the lottery, I'm definitely buying a Geo Pointer!

If I ever learn to sew, I'm building that Pely!



Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: thief on September 22, 2010, 03:56 AM
Eh..gomberg's falcon is a dan leigh design as i understand it...there is a book out there of just Dan Leigh delta designs....very very good read!!!

The GeoPointer is amazing..........


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Gamelord on September 22, 2010, 05:55 PM
Oh yes, I love my Geo Pointer! :)


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Josiah on September 22, 2010, 06:36 PM
Oh yes, I love my Geo Pointer! :)

Got pics?  I'd love to see one of it on the ground next to a person or something for scale.


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: mikenchico on September 22, 2010, 08:48 PM
Jon Trennepohl with his GeoPointer codesigned with CEEWAN of Malaysia at Kite Party, Huntington Beach, Ca. Photo by John Chilese, sorry John if I beat you to it, Bing brought it right up. Available from Skyburner Kites, link to the right.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3waCPW86CRA/S1k7FTr9anI/AAAAAAAAARw/XH3Ks29RslU/2288958%20Trennepohl.jpg) (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3waCPW86CRA/S1k7FTr9anI/AAAAAAAAARw/XH3Ks29RslU/2288958%20Trennepohl.jpg)


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Gamelord on September 23, 2010, 12:01 PM
Here's mine, again photo by John Chilese. :)
http://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2009Kites#5429832611071536402 (http://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2009Kites#5429832611071536402)

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Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Texanpilot on September 25, 2010, 05:10 PM
I know I'm late on this, but I really like my Roller for high-angle flying. 


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: cordover on October 04, 2010, 06:04 AM
I agree with TexanPilot.  The Roller was designed for tall narrow spaces and takes off like a rocket to fly just about over your head!  Very steep and doesn't need much wind.  Not as huge and flashy as a pointer, but flies high and steady to stay out of the way of your other kites.

Mitch


Title: Re: "Highest angle" SLK?
Post by: Josiah on October 04, 2010, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the Roller recommendations.  With the 25% off deal Steve currently has going, I find myself very, very tempted!