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Title: Android Phone
Post by: DWayne on November 21, 2010, 09:46 AM
I'm looking for opinions. If you were in the market, and limited to Verizon, what Android phone would get? Or would you wait for the iphone to come to Verizon?

Denny


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: stapp59 on November 21, 2010, 10:45 AM
Have been with Verizon for years and have had Iphone envy since Apple brought them out. The spotty AT&T coverage always kept me from switching though.  When the Droid X came out I went for it and have been happy so far.  Much better than anything I had before.  It's a hand held computer that takes phone calls. Very cool and no regrets.   Have not used an Iphone so cannot compare directly.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 21, 2010, 12:26 PM
I have the original Moto Droid & got Rhonda the Droid X, I am a little envious of hers but mine is a bit more open, smaller and robust feeling. The Droid 2 has improved the actual keyboard but frankly I don't use it even though I felt that was a requirement at the time. The new D2 got a reduced version of Motoblur though as does the X, does some cool things but reduces the openness of the pure Android OS on the D1

Depends on the features you want, the X is a media beast, both are great as info machines, both work great as tethers for a laptop on the go. The HTC Increadable is still a viable option and the amoled screen is nice. Today I would.get the X, but dual core 2 gig processors are on the horrizon... but then if you wait for the next tech you'll never get anything, as fast as this tech is changing. I am not an Apple fan so I won't say anymore on that.
 
Battery life on all of them is poor, surprisingly it appears the X is doing better then my D1 despite the larger screen and back light but I use the heck out mine every day and keep the GPS on, at Costco they will throw a car charger into the bundle if you don't have a micro usb charger already, the free case and handsfree is worthless though.

Love our 'Droids, voice input for almost anything typing not required, the Nav app is so totally awesome on these things I'll turn it on just to watch the birdseye view of the surrounding areas as I'm driving just to see what's on the other side of that fence or hill I can't see over. I even used it to see where I actually was on the last flight I took when I saw something particularly interesting (gps doesn't send only recieves, I marked the location for review). It remembers where I parked the car and gets me back, that can't be beat on an extended hike. I haven't gotten into any of the virtual reality apps yet but how cool are they? The camera on the X is amazing, it has features I would love to have on my real digital cam, the built in panorama/photostitch software is flawless and automatic. And touch and drag for the focus area while you're composing the shot, I see that is just now coming to a few cams. Read, edit & print MS Office and PDF's, access my home computers wirelessly from anywhere, watch my security cams. It even checks my heart rate to see if I really have to get out of bed. Use your Google Voice number so all calls go to every phone and add all those features, heck it's built in. My computers can't do what these phones can do and all of this at under 512 mb for the OS and applications, I'm so looking forward to Android 3 and a 6" - 10" tablet. I'd be tempted to get the Adroid Emulator for the PC's, I've been accepted as a Dev, and just run that if I had a touchscreen ... LOL

The PROBLEM is Google has one foot over the "Do not be evil" line with these things and is testing the waters, some of the apps have fully crossed the line IMO. Amazing convieniences but with the opportunity for amazing misuse, so far you can turn much of it off and the power switch still works to kill everything. I'm in the "We should be able to deny or block Permissions" school, but that is not an option yet. Read and watch those Permissions, read up on what it all means. Does a wallpaper really require access to the internet, your contact list, personal info, texts and phone calls? I think NOT, avoid it. There is no user manual for Android so you're on your own, I'm still discovering features that are available, some I haven't seen published anywhere yet.

posted from my droid, no tapatalk needed




Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tpatter on November 21, 2010, 02:05 PM
I can't remember which one my wife had, but we eventually returned it for a more traditional cell phone. 

The device was a great little computer, but a terrible phone.  Usability was the biggest issue - just getting to the phone part and dialing a number took ridiculously long and was overly complex and "klunky".

I'll see if she remembers which model it was.  In any case, be sure to try using it as a phone in addition to its other cooler features when evaluating how well it works.

I really like the iPhone and these other devices, but am not yet willing to signup for a $2400+ contract - I just keep using my pay-as-you-go to the tune of about $200 per year.  Hopefully, some smart company will eventually come out with a fully internet capable device that costs around $250 with a data plan for $20/month total with voice over IP. 


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Windbag on November 21, 2010, 02:52 PM
Dwayne, I currently have the Droid X & am very satisfied.

 I must say there are rough edges on any phone choices Iíve made in the past. I live on the coast so there are only small towns with spotty cell coverage from any of the carriers although AT&T seems to have the most towers. I had a Sony cell phone with MP3 player I used on AT&T for several years. When the iPhone 2  first came out a few years back I ordered one, used it & returned it at the end of the 30 day trial period. I liked several of the features but the real killer was that it disconnected calls from my house even though I had 3 bars of signal strength. There were several cities along the coast where the phone didnít work even though my old Sony worked there just fine. When the iPhone 4 came out I again ordered the phone & returned it at the end of the 30 day trial period last July. I had the 3G Microcell attached to my DSL & even with 4 bars of signal strength the calls at my house still disconnected.

The Droid X has Navigation, a turn by turn  Nav program you talk to & it speaks the turns to arrive at your destination. Itís free compared to the iPhone charging $10 per month for a comparable feature. The Droid X syncs your mail, contacts & calendar with Gmail for free while the iPhone program costs you $100 per year to synch. Photos on the Droid show you the filename where the iPhone shows only a thumbnail to select the pix to view. MP4 videos on the 4Ē Droid X are more impressive than the smaller LCD on the  iPhone. I only have 3 bars of signal at my house but have never had a disconnected call in the 5 months since I got the Droid. My Droid plays all flash videos on the Internet while Apple says they will never play flash. I carry MS Office files like PDF, .doc & Excel spreadsheets on my Droid & can open any of them just fine. I couldnít do that on my iPhone or iPod Touch.

The iPhone is a little nicer the way it handles playlists in iTunes. Synching the iPhone to songs & videos on my PC synched all items while on the Droid I have to drag & drop manually to update the phone. iTunes synched my MS Outlook contacts & calendar directly to the iPhone. I had to export & create contacts & the calendar manually in Gmail to then have it automatically update my Droid X.

I donít believe I would switch back to the iPhone even if it became available on Verizon. I still have an iPod Touch I haven't used in the last 4 months. I'm going to sell it on eBay as my Droid X does everything the Touch was doing.

Have fun, Ray.



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 21, 2010, 03:35 PM
Valid points Tom (patters)

Our Moto 'Droids are actually good phones, as good or better then the LG Envy's we had before and better then any of the previous phones we've had and we live on the fringes of any signal, I dropped Denny the other day but once in the right area of the house we did OK.

When I got mine the sales lady was so exited showing me all the cool features and installing apps I finally had to ask "How do I make a phone call?" since it wasn't obvious. Seems that is a secondary feature in their minds too ... LOL  

There are more hoops to jump through then a standard phone with a number pad right on the body to place a call the "Old" way. The first thing you'll learn is shortcuts on one of your 3-7 screens for direct dial to your most often used numbers, that gets you down to - Power, Swipe & Tap, easier then my old phones IMO, but you won't find that info in the manual. And scrolling through my 150+ contacts is easier, again IMO, with a swipe then clicking through that contact list or typing letters on a number pad to search through the list or programing and remembering hotkeys. Of course YMMV. It takes a while to learn the tricks, it did me, I've been experimenting with this thing since April and I'm still learning new things. There should be an Android for Dummy's but Google is updating the OS so fast that it would be outdated before the ink was dry. Endless entertainment for tinkerers like me though  ;)

If you do it set up a Gmail account now if you don't have one so you're not pressed for a name at the counter, you should have one for backups, the phones backup all your data to it in case the phone ever dies. Convenient since Verizon had to replace 2 of our 3 for a total of 6 or 7 replacements during the Froyo update which had problems, they were great and helpful through that process though.  

Oh and let them do any OS upgrades in the store if available since those can cause problems if done in a fringe area, but ask that they not install any apps, Verizon has already installed many you don't need or want in order to sell your stats for a profit and those you can't uninstall those unless you 'root' it, you don't need them installing more at the point of sale, I removed most of what the sales lady installed.



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 21, 2010, 04:04 PM
And Synch with iTunes? (http://mobiputing.com/2010/03/how-to-automatically-sync-your-android-phone-with-itunes/) "There's an App for that" (blantantly stolen from Apple  ;) ) plug the phone into your computer with the supplied cable ... done ...

Easier? Well the phone does WiFi or Bluetooth networking, this app doesn't say it but by next week they'll probably synch automatically whenever you're in range, if not post it to a Dev forum, somebody will want to make that buck.

 ;D Oh already done, iSYNCR by JRTStudios in the marketplace, $2.99 for the App, the WiFi Plugin is free.




Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: DWayne on November 21, 2010, 05:51 PM
Thanks for all the input.

Denny


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tcope on November 21, 2010, 08:34 PM
The PROBLEM is Google has one foot over the "Do not be evil" line with these things and is testing the waters, some of the apps have fully crossed the line IMO.
Don't know if this is where you were going but the BIG problem with Android phones is the manufactures bloating the phones with pre-installed apps. I don't think it's Google adding them or making the deals... I think it's the phone manufactures. Google comes out with a great OS that can do just about anything but now we are seeing the phone manufactures bloating the OS with their own software (MotoBlur... a joke) and making revenue from 3rd parties for pre-loading apps into the OS.

The other problem I'm starting to notice... and this is not that big of a deal... is that most app developers are now coding their apps to load upon boot up, automatically. This is a version of Linux so I understand apps load into memory but don't use CPU time... still, with every app loading into memory, apps are going to load and unload which is going to slow the system down and drain the battery. They do this so their apps will load quickly when they are used.

So the other consideration to give is what phone do the manufactures leave alone the most. That is, what phone has the least modified OS.

If you ask me, this is a HUGE Android drawback and one that is/will hurt their sales. When left in the hands of phone manufactures, even something perfect will get screwed up.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mnkypkl on November 23, 2010, 08:27 PM
I have a Droid X which I'm addicted to. Great phone and mini computer terminal but... Like all technology give it up because whatever you buy today is obsolete tomorrow. With that in mind, I saw a HTC Incredible (awesome phone) for free with a two year contract at one phone store. Go for it, I did and no regrets.
Kevin


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 23, 2010, 09:53 PM

The other problem I'm starting to notice... and this is not that big of a deal... is that most app developers are now coding their apps to load upon boot up, automatically. This is a version of Linux so I understand apps load into memory but don't use CPU time... still, with every app loading into memory, apps are going to load and unload which is going to slow the system down and drain the battery. They do this so their apps will load quickly when they are used.

If you ask me, this is a HUGE Android drawback and one that is/will hurt their sales. When left in the hands of phone manufactures, even something perfect will get screwed up.

For the record I am a software engineer.... I do not work for Google.... I love Android....

First let me address the "apps starting up on boot up" ... actually many apps are started automatically even if you kill them.... but good news... an android app MUST be written to be entered from ANY point in the program, bakes your noodle the first time you write an app ... (really think from any screen) this is how the multitasking is handled and how android has had the iPhone beaten with that one since forever. (remember iphone apps have to be written to be multitaskable with iphone4).... you will be surprised about the battery life of an android phone.. I have an EVO 4G received at Google IO and I listen to Pandora over 3g for a minimum of 2hrs a day on a single charge... constantly tweet and text, browse the web, etc..... all on one charge....

As to the application "problems" people are seeing.... Google takes a different approach than Apple.... Apple decides who gets to put an app in the app store... they don't like your app or they think it competes with them or AT&T..... they don't let it in... this is the reason you can't make skype calls over 3g on the iphone. Google on the other hand tasks a less draconian approach and lets the users determine which apps are successful in the market... those that do a good job and people love.... will end up on top.... the others will be forgotten in the bowels of the marketplace....

As for manufactures adding bloat ware to Android phones.... probably the worst is T-Mobile and the worst thing they add is a MyFavs app for managing your fav5.... pretty harmless... you don't like the other stuff uninstall it....

there are several models for how android can be sold by OEMs and partners on phones... each has different levels of customization...

ohhh and Android was on the first 4G phone (HTC EVO [what I have]) and was on the first phone capable of video chat over a datanetwork (3g or 4g... the EVO again) oh and did I mention the EVO has a bigger screen than the iphone4 (yes i also like iphone bashing)



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tcope on November 23, 2010, 10:00 PM
Certainly up there with TM (provider) is Motorola (manufacture) with MotoBlur. There is just no reason to add all that crap on the phone. It can all be added with apps. Moto is hacking up Android... bad.

I'm no Apply lover (things don't appeal to me just because they are shiny) but at least Apple is in control of their OS.

What a vast majority of Android app users won't know is how those apps are affecting their phone (loading on boot up, etc) so they won't rate is based on this. Also I've seen plenty of people complain that an app won't even work and give it 5 stars. Not to mention the amount of spam comments that give apps 5 stars.

Nothing against Android... I just see it's open status as something that is also going to hurt it.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 23, 2010, 10:10 PM
interesting points .... this is where the differences in Open vs Closed source/platforms come out. Android is an open platform.... with an open community surrounding it. This means that there is some responsibility on the users to be educated.... unlike iOS where users simply rely on the all knowing Apple to tell them how to use their phones and what applications to use ..... i prefer choice over listening to some corporation telling me what I need.

 


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tcope on November 23, 2010, 10:22 PM
unlike iOS where users simply rely on the all knowing Apple to tell them how to use their phones and what applications to use ..... i prefer choice over listening to some corporation telling me what I need.
But Android is not truly open and as an end user you _don't_ have choices... at least not more then Apple gives.

(without rooting)

Your Android phone comes preloaded with apps that start on boot up and cannot be deleted. As the end user you have no choice but to keep these apps on the phone. Every update from Google goes to your phone manufacture to allow them to do just about what ever they want with it.

Also, Google nor the phone manufactures have any control over the apps that people write. We've not seen this abused yet (or next to nothing) and I agree, users will keep a lot of this abuse from happening... but who is in control of these apps? It's a double edged sword.

It would have been nice to see Google release the OS under license but this is not Google's style nor does it fit their business direction. Its great... but it can (and does) hurt a lot of their products (Android is one... Google TV will be another).


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 24, 2010, 07:54 AM


On my 'Droid 1 there are apps added either by Motorola or at Verizons request, but they open whenever you use the phone, text or open the browser even though you have force closed them a few dozen times, Amazons MP3 Market, Visual Voice Mail (No I do not use the service, that has to be by Verizons request since you pay them for it) & News & Weather (I have it set to never background refresh). They can not be removed without voiding your warranty and they can't be stopped from, I assume, harvesting usage statistics.

Just bothers me and many others, in the forums there are many posts from disgrunted users who threaten they will never shop Amazon because of that app.

I installed the Google Voice app the other day and my battery life went right down the drain, it was going days on standby, down to 6 hours. I took it out again but am not seeing any improvement, the battery went from 100% to 40% over 12 hours with only 2 phone calls, total use 3 minutes. Hopefully this reboot helps. I did notice something had been turning my wireless on during those few days too, I don't recall the Google Voice app having that access, so I'll be researching that. I hadn't installed anything else, just some updates.

I do leave the GPS on, my little way of supporting all this, right now I'm OK with a little data harvesting and location is the least of my concern on gathered stats. You can turn it off to extend battery life.

Still love the Moto 'Droids, haven't had any hardware problems, everything has been software related. The 3 returns I had were from the update to 2.2 being fed to me where there was no data service and it came in over a spotty wireless in our cabin and crashed. The phone to it's credit restored itself to working condition but wouldn't update after that, the other two were unacceptable "As New" refurb replacements that had had the power receptical broken by users who either crammed a mini usb plug from their cameras into it or ripped the cord out sideways. Both those were replaced with a smile and overnite delivery.



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Old Greebo on November 24, 2010, 12:31 PM
Sigh!  You're all so gadget-savvy!
I'm still using the Nokia 6300 I bought 3 years ago.  It does internet stuff, I think, but I've never tried it.  It apparently has some 'apps' loaded, and I think they're just games.  Must try them some time.
I'm happy to save computer stuff for my home (laptop) computer.  Why do I need my telephone to go (at much greater expense) onto the web?
The only 'extra' that I demand of my pocket telephone is the ability to take the occasional picture.
I think it will do videos too.  With sound, even.  One day I might put it to the test.  Haven't needed to yet ...


Has anyone here been conned into buying a Kindle?   (Other e-readers are available.)    I was really thinking I wanted one, until I discovered that the books for it cost about 50 percent *more* than I can buy the paper versions for in my local supermarket!    So there's never going to be any way of writing off the initial outlay ...


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tcope on November 24, 2010, 12:50 PM
I'm still using the Nokia 6300 I bought 3 years ago.
Let's just admit th truth... Nokia can make phone! I had a 6620 for a long time. What it could do then was not matched until recently (and it came out about 6 years ago. Symbian still has a HUGE majority of the phone market (world wide). Combine all other phone OS's and the just beat out Symbian collectively.

Symbian is truly bullet proof.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 24, 2010, 12:53 PM
not sure why people are so up in arms about the manufacturer apps on Android phones ... if you don't like it ... tell the vendor ...

as for usage monitoring (being a conspiracy nut myself) don't worry its not like they can't and don't already read all your email.... the phone can/and does approximate its location based on cell signal anyway. Open Maps without GPS turned on and you will see its pretty close... etc. If you aren't using services like weather and news etc... you may well be missing the point ... ohh and if you are not in love with Google Navigation .... you are crazy.... sorry but much better than most other non usage specific devices.

Has anyone here been conned into buying a Kindle?   (Other e-readers are available.)    I was really thinking I wanted one, until I discovered that the books for it cost about 50 percent *more* than I can buy the paper versions for in my local supermarket!    So there's never going to be any way of writing off the initial outlay ...

I own a Kindle DX and use it mostly for reading large reference material (that would normally weigh in around 3-5 lbs per book).... the extreme light weight of the Kindle and drop dead convenience of having it when I need it, along with native pdf support (in the DX and newer) as well as the ability to purchase material from anywhere at any time, make it very much worthwhile. Also Kindle versions of most of the material I purchase cost a min of 20% less if not 50% less than the real versions.... there is also a huge selection of free material and nearly free ($0.99) material available. it supports many formats including .mobi which comes with many of the paper versions I buy of some material.... having a book on the kindle and in paper form at home... makes my life extremely simple....


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 24, 2010, 12:54 PM
it is a shame that Symbian does not consume a greater marketshare.... excellent platform


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: in.divi.dual on November 24, 2010, 04:34 PM

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Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Old Greebo on November 24, 2010, 04:38 PM
Yeah, individual.   (insert full stops as appropriate)
About right, I reckon. :-[


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tpatter on November 24, 2010, 05:23 PM
not sure why people are so up in arms about the manufacturer apps on Android phones ... if you don't like it ... tell the vendor ...

It's kind of like getting Windows in my mind - hardly anyone buys or installs it, it just comes with your new machine.  The problem is that each hardware vendor makes deals with all sorts of other companies and it comes loaded to the gills with stuff that you don't want or need and in fact is mostly rubbish.  It's never a good consumer experience - bloatware combined with the software you then install that you actually do want and the whole system becomes fragile.

Say what you want about Apple and the iPhone, but they have this figured out - most consumers simply want to buy a device that "just works" with no need to uninstall, reinstall, or
otherwise tweak it.  They spend their time using the thing, rather than "fixing" it.



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tcope on November 24, 2010, 05:54 PM
Say what you want about Apple and the iPhone,
Okay


but they have this figured out - most consumers simply want to buy a device that "just works"
Kind of like a phone that can make and receive calls? :)

Just another example of Apple putting form over function. :)

Seriously... you did not just say Apply has figured out how to make a product that just "works". Apply _has_ figured out that people _will_ buy something for the brand alone.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 24, 2010, 06:09 PM
I wouldn't compare it to windows.... and I happen to love windows (hey it gets me paid) ....

Maybe *I* am the one who doesn't get it.... I must be wrong in wanting choice..... I mean I know people love to pay all that extra $$ for their fancy i<Insert-Obvious-Name-Here> or Macbook Pro etc.... however I personally prefer to have a massive selection of hardware to choose from. I almost bought a mac to run Windows on but couldn't find one with my hardware/performance/weight specs i required [my requirements not Windows] ... luckily I found a PC for 1/2 the Macbook Pro base price with more than adequate specs. Its not pretty and doesn't give me automatic "OMG ur so sheik" cred ... but it can run circles around similar macs (did I mention it cost 1/2 as much?).

So what is the choice in Android.... well.... how many phones are there that can run iOS? how many carriers can you use your non-hacked (and thus partly crippled) iPhone on? D'oh ... one device.... one carrier... maybe if I was willing to give up my ability to choose for myself, well then maybe I would be interested in letting the someone else tell me what device I get the honor of using and what network I get the honor of paying....

So the break down is.....

you want to choose for yourself what you want -> Android
you want to be told what you want -> iPhone

Ohh and for the haters....I was once a Mac user/owner/hacker .... so its not like I have no experience with them.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 24, 2010, 06:14 PM
I am with tcope on :

"Apple _has_ figured out that people _will_ buy something for the brand alone. "


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tpatter on November 24, 2010, 06:47 PM
You guys are proving my point - consumers want stuff that works right out of the box in a standardized way.  The "choice" they want is in the applications they want to run in order to do something useful - it doesn't matter how that is delivered whether its an iPhone or an Android device, but it needs to work extremely well.

The big differentiator is always cost, and Android will likely win there - it's hard to compete with "free" even if you are better, "good enough" will win out for most consumers.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 24, 2010, 07:07 PM
I still don't get it... my Evo worked perfectly... right out of the box... so did my PC.... I don't see how Apple is any better....

If OEMs choose to try and differentiate themselves by providing software that they believe is "added value" that is not a problem of windows or MSFT ...


at this point we are on the verge of a religious discussion... ie MacOS vs Windows etc..... no one ever wins those... so I will stop before we start... 


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: tpatter on November 24, 2010, 09:39 PM
at this point we are on the verge of a religious discussion... ie MacOS vs Windows etc..... no one ever wins those... so I will stop before we start... 

Agreed - we can agree to disagree on that.  :) 

Besides, I think we can all agree that the Android OS is a big boon for phones in general which is the topic of this thread.  Comparing them to previous phones is like comparing flint rock to a butane lighter.


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: DWayne on November 25, 2010, 06:03 AM
Seems the Droid X is the most popular of the Android phones and it seems Motorola is preferred to HTC, LG, and Samsung. The latter two not even getting a mention in this thread.
It also sounds like these smartphones are a lot like boxed PC's. They come with a lot of, don't want, don't need, and can't get rid of, junk. I could never own another Dell, so maybe I should hold off on getting an Android for now.

Denny


Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 25, 2010, 09:18 AM
Well you'll never get a completely clean one, unlike a PC there is no way you are ever going to build your own. Rooting introduces it's own problems it seems the bit I've looked into.

Did anybody mention the bar code scanner? Selling point for the wife. Go to a store, no price, no problem, scan it. The app then goes on line and gets the price and all competitive prices, heck it might be significantly cheaper across the street, or worth the wait to order on line, click a few more buttons and it's in the mail.

I was at a walmart at 4 in the morning needing a new gas cap which I forgot to put on at the 1 am fill up, no info at walmart, just a dozen styles, talked to the phone "gas cap, 1991 ford explorer", got the part number, crossed it with walmarts numbers and walked out in 5 minutes. Cheaper then the $20 I figured an Oregon gas station would've charged me and they wouldn't have let me drive out without one.

It was announced this week there's a new app that has maps of participating stores, no more walking around for 30 minutes to find the light bulbs, talk to the phone, get a map and an arrow to follow. Even input your shopping list and it'll map out the shortest route and remind you you need cake flour when you're near I guess.

Having complete, unfettered access to the internet, voice input, that navigation app and all the little apps available is addicting, in just a few days you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. I never tire of clicking that microphone button and saying ... well lets say for today ... "minimum temperature to cook a turkey to?" and the answer is there in one click  :) guess you could've and maybe should've called Aunt Martha since it is Thanksgiving but dang it's convenient.



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: mikenchico on November 25, 2010, 10:13 AM
LOL ... after posting the above we ordered 2 of Sears 5 hour blockbusters for today online without driving to town plus got an additional $10 off. Then Rhonda asked me what temperature do I cook the turkey at? I said use the 'Droid, she had the answer in 10 seconds  :D

life is good



Title: Re: Android Phone
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on November 25, 2010, 10:58 AM
lol thats great....

There is no shortage of instances when me and my friends (all software engineers at the same company in Seattle) are all walking down the street and someone asks a random question.... immediately people reach for their pockets ... out come the Android and iPhones and even that one Palm Pre... its even more amusing when no one actually thinks to look it up, however.

re bracode scanner... some stores are also now including QR codes on their item tags.... scan and follow the url inside and you are taken to the product page on their website.... nice touch and you can get specs and information that may not be on the box (first saw this at Best-Buy) ... using a bacode scanner app to share applications from one phone to another is great as well..... also perfect for sharing contact information etc. Need to give someone all your contact information... simply let them scan your QR code off the screen...

Google Places is amazing.... as we are always on the lookout for a great place to eat... or in need of a gas station etc .... I can always find what I need and get directions. I haven't been lost since the day I got my first Android phone (the HTC magic -- aka the T-Mobile "MyTouch")