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Title: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Hadge on January 06, 2011, 12:03 PM
In the past I have noticed that many of the posts on the ‘Kite building and repair’ section are requests for details of standard bridle measurements and frame specifications. 

This thread has been started so that forum members can post the standard bridle and frame details for kites they own for the benefit of other forum users. Hopefully in time it will build up into a useful reference source for many of the kites we fly.

For ease of use I would suggest that you cover one kite or set of kites (i.e. UL/Std/Vent) per post rather than a huge list.  I would also suggest that measurements be taken with the bridle on the kite from frame to approximate centre of the knot. Upper outhaul measurements should be taken with adjustment on the middle knot where this applies. If you have the lengths and spec of the frame tubes these too can be posted.

I am aiming at the standard set up for each kite, however if you want to post alternative bridle set up’s or modifications please feel free to do so but I would ask that you make it clear they are alternative measurements.

Cheers

 :)

Links to Bridle tying sites - http://www.iannewham.com/kitedesign/bridling.html (http://www.iannewham.com/kitedesign/bridling.html)

                                     http://wardley.org/kites/bridle/index.html (http://wardley.org/kites/bridle/index.html)



Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Hadge on January 06, 2011, 12:04 PM
Flying Wings Soul Standard

Upper Outhaul – 54cm  Lower outhaul – 57cm  Inhaul- 63cm Turbo 9.5cm

Frame – ULE/LLE Dynamic DT15 x 74cm  Spine – D15 x 89.5cm Lower spreader Dynamic DT18 x 78.5cm Upper spreader – 6mm carbon x 51.5cm Standoff 3mm carbon x 25.5cm with optional outer 3mm x 22cm.



Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Hadge on January 06, 2011, 12:05 PM
HQ Shadow (2009 version)
Upper Outhaul – 42.5cm Lower Outhaul – 52cm Inhaul – 56cm Turbo – 6cm Keeper line 44.5cm

Frame – ULE 4mm carbon tube x 70cm LLE – 4mm carbon tube x 70cm Spine 5mm carbon tube x 82.5cm Lower spreader Dynamic DT12 x 70cm Upper Spreader 4mm carbon tube x 54cm  Outer standoff – 2mm carbon x 21.5cm Inner standoff – 3mm carbon x 21.5cm.


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Hadge on January 06, 2011, 12:06 PM
HQ Infinity Standard

Upper outhaul – 54cm Lower outhaul – 53cm  Inhaul 62cm Turbo 5cm Keeper line 32cm

Frame – ULE – Dynamic DT15 x 82cm LLE – DT15 x 69cm  Spine – Dynamic D15 x 90cm Upper spreader D15 x 52cm Lower Spreader -  DT15 x 75.5cm.  Outer standoff 3mm carbon x 25cm Inner standoff 3mm carbon x 26cm Yoyo stoppers 53cm from nose.



Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: misterbleepy on January 07, 2011, 01:33 AM
How about links to manufacturers websites who publish this info?

e.g.:

Benson Bridles: http://bensonkites.com/tech/bridles.html (http://bensonkites.com/tech/bridles.html)

Benson Frames: http://bensonkites.com/tech/frames.html (http://bensonkites.com/tech/frames.html)


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Hadge on January 07, 2011, 06:47 AM
Specs for many new and old HQ kites can be found at - http://www.invento-hq.com/supportsuche_e.php (http://www.invento-hq.com/supportsuche_e.php)

Also PDF copies of many original manuals can be found at - http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=214 (http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=214)


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on January 10, 2011, 04:37 PM
so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

http://kitecards.heroku.com (http://kitecards.heroku.com)

<< this is not production ready and not guaranteed.... however my plan is to continue to update it while I get used to Rails3 and Ruby for that matter.

I haven't figured out how I want to handle the bridle info at this point ..... its needs a little design work... but is a start.

give it a shot and let me know what you think... I am sure people have a lot of ideas...


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: ET on January 10, 2011, 06:44 PM
I have notes on standard and tweaked bridles.  You guys want them?

And so I understand.  One post per kite?


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: mikenchico on January 11, 2011, 07:35 AM
so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

[url]http://kitecards.heroku.com[/url] ([url]http://kitecards.heroku.com[/url])



Cool, I'm guessing it's editable by anyone like a WIKI? I didn't want to make a change with improper info just to test it. I hope it saves a copy in case somebody goes in maliciously.



Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Ang3lFir3 on January 11, 2011, 07:38 AM
so i just barely got started and by barely i mean (a couple of hours this weekend) but you can checkout....

[url]http://kitecards.heroku.com[/url] ([url]http://kitecards.heroku.com[/url])



Cool, I'm guessing it's editable by anyone like a WIKI? I didn't want to make a change with improper info just to test it. I hope it saves a copy in case somebody goes in maliciously.

at the moment it is very much like a wiki... however I plan on adding user authentication and then of course only allowing authenticated users to make changes.... at the moment it is only back by a sqlite db so the data is easily replaced...

feel free to add data but its just a basic form.... wanting to make sure I have all the right info ... just something I decided to do in some of my free time... when not flying of course :)


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: B-13 on July 07, 2011, 08:22 PM
Hello everyone, i just joined this forum as i am awaiting my Prism Hypno to arrive. Ordered yesterday.
I have also a Paimpol Super Sonic kite i bought from France.
Wing span - 1m85
Height - 80cm
I am looking in constructing a new bridle line for it as the old one got cut while it was packed for some years. Is there any calculator for this or any kite with apprx same specs i can copy all bridle length to fit on it?
Thanks everybody for helping.

Btreize


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: mikenchico on July 07, 2011, 11:13 PM
Did both sides get cut? Your best bet is to duplicate the original, if one side is good then you just mirror it. If the cut is clean enough and hasn't frayed too bad you should be able to approximate it close enough, for sure closer then substituting measurements from another kite.



Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Ca Ike on July 08, 2011, 01:26 AM
Hello everyone, i just joined this forum as i am awaiting my Prism Hypno to arrive. Ordered yesterday.
I have also a Paimpol Super Sonic kite i bought from France.
Wing span - 1m85
Height - 80cm
I am looking in constructing a new bridle line for it as the old one got cut while it was packed for some years. Is there any calculator for this or any kite with apprx same specs i can copy all bridle length to fit on it?
Thanks everybody for helping.

Btreize
IF you can post some pictures of the assembled kite in a new thread and someone her might rcognize it and be able to help.  IF not try mikes suggestion or there are a few sources on making a bridle from scratch.


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: B-13 on July 08, 2011, 08:31 AM
Did both sides get cut? Your best bet is to duplicate the original, if one side is good then you just mirror it. If the cut is clean enough and hasn't frayed too bad you should be able to approximate it close enough, for sure closer then substituting measurements from another kite.




Yes i removed both sides and cannot find it back now. I don't have a picture right now but you can see it on the link below. Exactly the same thing

http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250 (http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250)


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: B-13 on July 08, 2011, 08:32 AM
Ca Ike, I dont have a picture now. I can upload later but here is the kite itself from this link

http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250 (http://www.arcane-modelisme.com/super-tonic/article/250)

Thanks for you help.

Btreize


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: inewham on July 08, 2011, 08:55 AM
If you can't find the original dimensions there's a rough rule of thumb for making turbo and static bridles here
http://www.iannewham.com/kitedesign/bridling.html (http://www.iannewham.com/kitedesign/bridling.html)
Its only a starting point but should get you in the air.


Have a read of Andy Wardley's site too.


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Ca Ike on July 08, 2011, 12:51 PM
AW's  site  http://wardley.org/kites/index.html (http://wardley.org/kites/index.html)   I use both Ian's and Andy's site for info when tweaking bridles.


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: B-13 on July 13, 2011, 07:57 AM
Thanks everyone who helped. I managed to get a bridle for the kite from this site

-Sorry, links to other shops are not allowed-rb

Very interesting for those who lost bridles and measurements.

Btreize


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: B-13 on July 13, 2011, 08:18 PM
Link was removed by admin!
This was not a shop but a site with info on bridle construction, length, etc.

please have a look before deleting it. Others my find this really helpful

Btreize


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Cydonia on November 11, 2011, 10:56 AM
Hi,

you could find some specifications here:

http://www.petithomme.be/cv4/index.php?fix/Fiche-CV (http://www.petithomme.be/cv4/index.php?fix/Fiche-CV)

choose your model and find all kite's dimensions.

If you want you could add kite specs.

have a good day


Title: Re: Standard Kite Specifications
Post by: Willy FS on November 24, 2011, 03:17 AM
Se my internetsite below... in the photobox "Kitebag and Kitespecs" there are some:
- technical pages of the DeepSpace, Gemini STD (with differend Active bridle), UL, Jumping Jack Flash VTD, Strong, STD, Special Edition, UL, SUL, Transfer XT.r, Lynx Pilot, Lowind 230

- lots of kite related knots in the photobox  "Vliegers veel gebruikte knopen"
- how te make a kitebreake

Look on the Dutch Kite Forum; http://www.vliegerwereld.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3036 (http://www.vliegerwereld.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3036)

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=12953aa4e97a45f9&sc=photos (https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=12953aa4e97a45f9&sc=photos)