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Title: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 13, 2009, 06:32 AM
So here's a classic inquiry...
I've got a bit of money to purchase a new kite and would like some ideas. I'm a recreational flyer and enjoy tricking and freestyle.  I've got a Nirvana, an Exile, a Widow (stds) and a set of QPs, plus lots of older kites. I'm not interested in purchasing used and my cap is $350.
Thinking of a Widow Maker because I like the Widow so much, but beyond that I'd like to hear what others would do.
Thanks for your thoughts!

oh yeah, wind.  My inland winds are often rough, but always blowing. Pretty decent, actually.. Its a rare day I can't fly a standard kite.

Dave


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: portley777 on April 13, 2009, 06:43 AM
   Hey Dave, I'd perhaps look at a Talon or a Cosmic TC if the exchange rate works (which it probably doesn't). They're the kites that I find less frustrating and more fun to trick (out of my bag). That's just my preference at the moment. There's lots of other delights out there of course ;)

Cheers,
Mike


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: fworley on April 13, 2009, 06:48 AM
Seems like a WM would be more of the same ...

Why not something a little different ... a Benson Deep Space (http://bensonkites.com/kites/deepspace.html) or new Gemini  (http://bensonkites.com/kites/gemini.html)perhaps or a Jest Of Eve Talon  (http://www.jestofevekites.com/talon_std.htm)?

British made kites are suddenly more affordable as the exchange rate now again favoring the dollar.

-Frazer


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Adicakes on April 13, 2009, 06:54 AM
If you're willing to sacrifice a few tricks for lovely, flowing combinations, then I say grab a Gemini.  If you'd like to hang onto those few tricks and retain almost all of the flow, albeit in a more angular form, then grab a Deepspace.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: rxburner on April 13, 2009, 07:32 AM
I would have to say that you could not go wrong with a Sea Devil Standard. If you add an extra set of 3PT lower spreaders, you would be good when the wind drops off a little also.
Rx


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DWayne on April 13, 2009, 07:43 AM
I'd say a standard Talon sounds like the kite you're looking for. It does well in inland wind, has a wide wind range, is a very capable freestyle kite, and is built exceptionally well. And with today's conversion rate its price is a mere $285.

Denny


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Will Sturdy on April 13, 2009, 07:53 AM
I would second the DS or talon. Most other stuff is fairly similar to what you've got.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: fworley on April 13, 2009, 08:07 AM
If you fancy something freestyle oriented and made here in the US ... look at the Focus Kite Hydra (http://focuskites.blogspot.com/2009/02/sneak-peak-2009-hydra-freestyle-kite.html).

(http://frazer.kiteclique.com/image/Hydra.jpg)

Its very tricky, very well made and priced ~$280.

Frazer


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 13, 2009, 08:24 AM
Very informed, helpful comments thus far.  Thanks. I didn't realize the British kites had become so affordable.  I have to confess I've always really wanted a DS.  After following Frazer's link to Tim's site, I'm happy to know thats a very doable option.  The Hydra looks good too.  Gotta admit, I'm truly enjoying this dilemma ;D 


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Dolphinboy on April 13, 2009, 08:56 AM
A Sea Devil would be a nice change from what's in your bag. Very nice and different from what you have. Try one if you can.

I'd also take a look at the Vendetta they're in your price range. I haven't flown one yet but I want to. I don't think the Deepspace or maybe the Widow Maker UL (since you have a Widow) would be a bad choice either. A Focus kite sounds interesting but there isn't' a lot of feedback yet.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Bill Rogers on April 13, 2009, 09:04 AM
Thanks. I didn't realize the British kites had become so affordable. 

I recently bought an updated Gemini and they are running about $100 less than they were about a year ago with the current exchange rate. Huge difference.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Videocat on April 13, 2009, 09:33 AM
If you like doing tricks you might think about a new kite called the Element. Here is a review on it http://www.kiteclique.com/?p=663 (http://www.kiteclique.com/?p=663)
Tracy


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: fworley on April 13, 2009, 09:54 AM
If you like doing tricks you might think about a new kite called the Element. Here is a review on it [url]http://www.kiteclique.com/?p=663[/url] ([url]http://www.kiteclique.com/?p=663[/url])
Tracy

Looks very capable for sure ... but its 265 UKP and even the exchange rate won't save you there ... thats $395.

-Frazer


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 13, 2009, 01:13 PM
Lots of nice kites mentioned here.  Now that I know the DS is within reach the kite has become like gravity....


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Steve Hall on April 13, 2009, 01:21 PM
Dave ... let me know if you'd like to borrow my DS for a while.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: jaydub on April 13, 2009, 02:50 PM
If you're still focussing on the DS and you fly in lumpy winds, I'd recommend you go with the Talon.  It has a larger wind range than the DS and handles lumpy winds much better.

The Talon needs 5mph to fly easily at the bottom end but tricks readily up to 12mph.  The DS starts lower but becomes very fast above 8mph.

I have both kites and my view is that whilst Mark based the Talon on the DS's flying characteristics, it is a definite enhancement.



Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: tpatter on April 13, 2009, 04:23 PM
It will not fit your price range, but you are welcome to try my Fearless the next time you are in the area.   Are you going to Lincoln City Kite Fest this year?


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 13, 2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks Tom.  Probably not Lincoln City.  I'll be in your area on and around Sept 10th. My schedule is a bit more packed than last year so I'm not sure if I'll have time to fly. Next time we meet up I'd really like to try it.  Thanks! :)


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 13, 2009, 06:28 PM
Dave ... let me know if you'd like to borrow my DS for a while.

Steve,
thanks so much.  Very generous offer.  I'll let you know off line.

dave


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: imarche on April 13, 2009, 06:48 PM
With your stable of kites, I'd say go for a 4-liner! Get a Rev. So much different from what you have now and brings a new dimension of flying enjoyment.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DavidS on April 13, 2009, 06:57 PM
+1 on the Deep Space.  It was my favorite kite (but my girlfriend won't let me fly it any more, as she always grabs it first...)

-David
 



Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Jynx on April 13, 2009, 09:35 PM
With your stable of kites, I'd say go for a 4-liner! Get a Rev. So much different from what you have now and brings a new dimension of flying enjoyment.
DANGER! DON'T DO IT! OBSESSIVE! You'll have a bag of dulies at home crying to get out!


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 14, 2009, 06:05 AM
I've got a Shockwave, Rev 1 and Rev ll.  They do see airtime, but not near as much as the dual line.  I've been looking at the B series and would like to have one at some point.  For me, however, the quads are for the occasional change of pace. 


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: fworley on April 14, 2009, 06:33 AM
I think red Deep Spaces look best ;)

Trick Kite Trick Freestyle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNJRJiOZEWs#hq)

-Frazer


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: Dolphinboy on April 14, 2009, 09:51 AM
Take Steve up on that DS trial. They're way fun but can be a little more frustrating in bumpy winds than some others. If watch that DS video you'll have to buy one.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: deepspace21 on April 14, 2009, 06:34 PM
DEEP SPACE!!!!!!!! ;D


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 15, 2009, 07:57 AM
I did watch the vid.  I have to buy one.   

Frazer, that Red with a bit of black looks great. 

Thanks for the fun, everyone.   I have to buy a DS.


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: fworley on April 15, 2009, 08:22 AM
I did watch the vid.  I have to buy one.   

Frazer, that Red with a bit of black looks great. 

Thanks for the fun, everyone.   I have to buy a DS.
Tell Tim I sent you, I'm on a commission basis ya know ;)

-Frazer


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 27, 2009, 08:46 PM
Funny how easy it is to change one's mind.  I blame that stupid colourizer.  Too many cool schemes with black and a little white. Too fun and enticing to have a hand in its creation.  The Talon is winning out. 


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: anOldMan on April 27, 2009, 10:33 PM
Dave, It sure sounds like you are going to get both. :D :D ;)

aOm


Title: Re: Lookin' for a new kite
Post by: DaveH on April 28, 2009, 02:23 PM
 :D :D :D
funny.  I'd like to, but at this time its just gonna be one.  After sleeping on it I'm back firmly in the DS camp.  Ya know though, I'm sure I'll end up with a Talon at some point.  Probably the UL.  I'm also pretty interested in the Hydra.  I got a very nice, detailed note from Paul at Focus in response to my inquiry.  I was looking for specific performance info and he took the time to answer every question in great detail.  Something tells me those guys are gonna do fine :)