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Title: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 13, 2011, 06:10 PM
Hi all. I've heard of show kites being anchored to dump trucks and all, but don't understand how it's done. Anyone have pictures? Also, does anyone know of alternatives to dump trucks?

Thank you in advance,
Alfredo.


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: thief on March 13, 2011, 06:24 PM
best place to check out is gombergkites.com there is a whole lot of info there!!!!!


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 13, 2011, 06:29 PM
Thank you! :)


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: mikenchico on March 13, 2011, 07:48 PM
I've seen back hoe's used, anything judged stable enough might be used. The method is similar to how we might tie off any kite to a stationary object, just on a much larger scale using big ropes, tow straps, etc, and hardware you might find at your logging or trucking supply company.

SOLO was tied off to a backhoe as I recall, I didn't take shots of the anchor


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Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 13, 2011, 08:12 PM
Thank you. I was just wondering because a dump truck seems pretty extreme. Do you think my mom's truck would do the trick? We have a Raptor. It's a big truck, but the kite is intimidating...lol

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1253/5167948272_0ae9633637.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55816918@N04/5167948272/)
2010_ford_f150_svt_raptor12 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55816918@N04/5167948272/#) by csabamaxxrally (http://www.flickr.com/people/55816918@N04/), on Flickr


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: thief on March 14, 2011, 03:46 AM
Alfredo: what kite????

you can always make a car the anchor of a kite...personally i never use any metal items near the vehicle....(if the line breaks i do not want my carabiner through my windows)......the easiest way is to get a loop of rope and lay it on the ground around where the tire is....tug the rope so that the rope pulls tight into the ground/tire interface as you do not really want the anchor sliding up into the back of the wheel assembly.....

Circus tent style stakes work very well.....big 3 or 4' long spikes that you need to use a sledgehammer ot drive in....

http://www.gombergkites.com/faq/faq-a.html (http://www.gombergkites.com/faq/faq-a.html)

it is always better to admit that you intimidated by a kite than to lose it by accident!


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: MtnFlyer on March 14, 2011, 04:16 AM
Alfredo, for a good answer to your question, you really need to let us know what kite you're referring to and what type of ground you're going to be flying over.

I'm sure you could use them, but I've only seen loaded dump trucks used for anchoring the MegaFlags (http://www.gombergkites.com/bigkite/index.html) (10,400 sq ft). For a train of full size octos, I've seen the main line strap run (sideways) around car front tires on the beach. I've used crossed (X) (http://www.gombergkites.com/faq/A-10.JPG) 2' and 3' contractor spikes in fields with solid ground and sand anchors (http://www.gombergkites.com//F-ANCHOR.PDF) on the beach. It's totally dependent on what you're flying, the wind conditions, and what the ground is like.

But if you do anchor to the truck (reasonable), if it's a hard-pulling kite make sure you anchor to the engine end. Put it in 4WD, leave it in gear and set the parking brake. I've heard of the light back end being lifted when the trailer hitch is used.

As said above, poke around DG's website - there's a plethora of good advice, pictures and drawings to be found. Here's a link on Anchoring (http://www.gombergkites.com/faq/faq-a.html) to get you started.


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 14, 2011, 08:45 AM
Thank you guys for your replies. I was thinking of something like a SOLO or Whale from Peter Lynn. Those kites seem to be some of the biggest they have.



Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: thief on March 14, 2011, 09:03 AM
You have some good taste! nice big things....
one thing to keep in mind is whether or not you want to do ONE major kite or a few smaller ones (Large and mediums mixed) to create more of a display...
I know of some large peter lynn pieces at good prices...........


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 14, 2011, 10:27 AM
Someday, I would like to own a SOLO, Whale, and Ray. I'll stick to duals for now, though.
The show kites can get pricey...lol
Let me see-
Whale......$4500 :o
OLO.........$5100 ???
Ray..........$4500 :-[
Total- $14,100 :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Steve Hall on March 14, 2011, 10:41 AM
Show kites look like a lot of fun ... but ... they are also a lot of work and and  the is a certain amount of danger in flying them.  Should you decide in the future to get one I would STRONGLY recommend you spend some time with an experienced show kite pilot "helping out".  Besides learning all the safety issues you may also find that flying and tending them is not as much fun as you may think.
Flying large kites is a huge responsibility and should not be taken lightly.


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: thief on March 14, 2011, 10:52 AM
Someday, I would like to own a SOLO, Whale, and Ray. I'll stick to duals for now, though.
The show kites can get pricey...lol
Let me see-
Whale......$4500 :o
OLO.........$5100 ???
Ray..........$4500 :-[
Total- $14,100 :'( :'( :'( :'(

yes they can get VERY pricey....and then do not forget shipping from "down under"....
the price of the line needed can easily be 3 digits!!!

personally like a mix of smaller pieces that fly well that i can handle myself...the overally huge stuff is not my cup of tea...rather fly a bunch of mediums........



Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 14, 2011, 11:07 AM
Show kites look like a lot of fun ... but ... they are also a lot of work and and  the is a certain amount of danger in flying them.  Should you decide in the future to get one I would STRONGLY recommend you spend some time with an experienced show kite pilot "helping out".  Besides learning all the safety issues you may also find that flying and tending them is not as much fun as you may think.
Flying large kites is a huge responsibility and should not be taken lightly.
Thanks. I will go to a kite fest this 19th. There will be a couple of show kite pilots there, so I will be watching the whole process. I know for sure that at least 3 OLOs will come. :)


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: thief on March 14, 2011, 02:21 PM
what fest are you going to Alfredo?

If you are interested in the big stuff I would suggest you search out Barry Ogletree....or you can google WhatAKite and chat with him....he is a great guy who will probably get you onto his ground crew to get experience...


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: Alfredo on March 14, 2011, 02:24 PM
I am going to Fest of tails in San Antonio. it is a dog/kite event, so it will be pretty cool. Thanks for the info, I will do my research.


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: WinterDaze on March 14, 2011, 03:30 PM
Alfredo,

I had the change to be pretty up and close to some big show kites on the W/E at the Rosebud Kite festival down here, big up's to Kaos (Kevin) for the opportunity  8) to help out, lets just say that they require constant attention and you must be very light on your feet when the wind decides not to cooperate, 'exciting' is the word you use the next day...  ;) 

I would say that working with experienced big kite people first would be a mandatory requirement if you were serious about getting into them, there is much that goes on that only eye's and ears would pick up, a bit like Freestyle, what you read is just half the picture.

Was pretty cool though  8)

WD


Title: Re: What type of anchors should be used?
Post by: ainokea on March 20, 2011, 08:44 PM
Speaking of what type of anchor should be used. (picture of the kite, not in Hawaii) Back in 97', Peter brought his newest creation at the time to Hawaii, Megabyte. This thing is huge, took 12 a whlie to zip all the panels together. We used a Peterbuilt dumper, parked side ways to the kite.
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/xposo/Kites/megabyte.jpg)
I forgot how he attached the line to the kite, but it held, and good. When the wind picked up to what Peter though was still safe to fly, it gragged the truck, side ways, about 5ft. We freaked!  ??? Peter finally pulled the rip cord to deflate the kite in case of emergencies, just like this. That was an experience I'll never forget.  :)