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Title: Liama Down Under
Post by: WinterDaze on April 14, 2011, 11:58 PM
Hope you like, it was my second time out with it.

Laima (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7l53oPXA24#)


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: steve.hobart on April 15, 2011, 06:43 AM
Nice!

Looks more well behaved than the Bird-X.

cheers

steve


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: Kantaxel on April 15, 2011, 08:30 AM
Well done Daze..........
Are you finding, as I have, that the 'bird' is much easier to fly than the Aerobe/Wala series?

It is most noticeable to me when the wind comes up a bit and is unstable (like swirling in my yard in tight quarters).

Don't get me wrong......The Walae are still cool. ;)


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: WinterDaze on April 15, 2011, 07:49 PM
Steve, there's a few on the list of 'to play with', the Bird-X is high on it :)

Jim, hard to tell for sure, but I think the Walae might be just a little floatier, need more time on the Laima to know for sure.

 I've played a little with the setting of the dihedral and in this it's set all the way to the back for this video. The bridle is 1 cm down on the mark.

I can see this really working in some urban settings as Bell suggested.

The both times it's been out it has drawn a little crowd to watch, in the sky it certainly is eye catching.


To me it's the 'Adult' version of the Wala   8)

 


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: bigpappo1 on April 15, 2011, 09:12 PM
Gorgeous!.


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: Kantaxel on April 15, 2011, 11:32 PM
Jim, hard to tell for sure, but I think the Walae might be just a little floatier, need more time on the Laima to know for sure.
 

My point, exactly............it seems to handle higher winds and still stay, for the lack of a better word, (Focused?)...........It seems, to me, to be able to penetrate the higher gusts without becoming volatile......if you know what I mean....................less sail, less lift, uhhhh, I seem now not to have a clue what i'm talking about, other then, it feels like it is gonna be much less affected by intermiitent wind direction changes and.............because  of that?

I guess I really need to take all three to a gym and aerobe out  :D

Gettin' old........hopin' I really got it in me......


Peace/// :P


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: WinterDaze on April 16, 2011, 05:23 PM
Jim, had it out last night, I can see why the upper is 5-8kts. It's the wrist fittings area, the single connection between LE and spreader. This is the area where asymetry occures in higher wind, the Wala's wing fittings are going to keep everything pretty balanced, even in the stronger gusts.

I wonder if there's any 'tuning' advantages to learned by playing with this LE angle?

WD


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: steve.hobart on April 17, 2011, 03:16 AM
Steve, there's a few on the list of 'to play with', the Bird-X is high on it :)


WD, if you would like, PM me your address, I'm more than happy to post my Bird X over to you for a loan for a while so you can compare.

Cheers

Steve :)


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: thief on April 17, 2011, 07:21 AM
Nice!

Looks more well behaved than the Bird-X.

cheers

steve
I think that the Bird'x is better behaved in active flying than the Laima.   The Bird'x has a rigid frame that is robust and that helps it fly better in lower winds....but the Bird'x is not much for a stable flyer (R-Sky did start offering it with a add on strip tail last year - but i have not head of any reviews on how it flys in wind)
The Laima has a less rigid frame to it....there is a LOT more wiggling going on when you are flying it in low winds or in normal wind flying as well....but that allows it to be flown on its own more stably....

i think that they are both great additions to the bag.....i just keep the Bird'x for indoors and street flying and the Laima for 1mph and up winds outdoors...

pricing: the bird'x i think is still lower than the Laima - that is IF YOU CAN FIND ONE.......


Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: stringfly on April 17, 2011, 07:44 PM
Great video WinterDaze !!!  Nice control.

Just started playing with my XL Laima.  + 13 feet span.

Stringfly  <>++++++

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Title: Re: Liama Down Under
Post by: WinterDaze on April 18, 2011, 03:40 AM
SF, I've been following your progess with some intrest 8) I belive on here i can say  ;) ' we need some video' ;D