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Title: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Dolphinboy on June 24, 2011, 10:04 AM
I was just thinking and realized it's been four years since I decided to learn dual line tricking. I watched a video on YouTube of Andy Wardley tricking a Gem and I knew I had to learn how to do that ;D It just blew my mind ???, I didn't have a clue how trick kites had progressed and were able to do stuff like that. I still remember how excited I was watching AW doing stuff I had never even thought possible and was yelling to my wife to come and see what could be done with kites now. I guess I was already hooked after about the first five seconds of that video.

I had flown dual lines back in the late 1980s. I even owned about 5-6 trick kites back then and flew quite often. But no slack line tricking back then. The kites didn't even have stand offs so if you gave slack they would fall out of the sky. I stopped flying and hadn't picked up a kite again until late spring 2007 when I bought a kite from GWTW for my daughter. That's when I went on YouTube to see what was going on with dual lines.

Now I can't stop :D This is a great hobby and gets me outside moving my old bones too. Plus I still have a lot more to learn ;)

Please let me know, What's your story?


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: tpatter on June 24, 2011, 10:20 AM
I've been flying about 3 years.

I still remember the first time that I saw actual trick flying - maybe 4 years ago.  The kids and I headed to Ocean Shores for the Summer Heat competition - more to get away for the weekend than to watch the kites.  I had no idea what to expect.

My son and I watched Tristan Underwood fly a ballet with a Sea Devil to his custom Star Wars music.  It was the most amazing kite flying that I had ever seen - I still remember it.  Jim Barber came by and we chatted - he told us about kites, competition, and flying.  It was a great day.

Later that season, we bought an Ignitor for $24.95 at Cannon Beach and started learning. The next year we bought a pair of E2s and both the Prism and Dodd DVDs.  We watched Dodd's DVD in slow-mo and started to pick things up - we've been hooked ever since.



-Tom


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Doc Z on June 24, 2011, 10:31 AM
My parents went down to the Outer Banks for their 25 year wedding anniversary back in 1996 (I was 16) and they brought me back a cheap, 'Go Fly a Kite' stunter that I played with for days before finally figuring it out.  Had a few more 'GFaK' kites before discovering the ITW catalog.

Upgraded to a Prism Vector around 1999 and then got a Fanatic the next year.  Started off learning the axel from watching a Prism video and have been hooked ever since. 


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Shane on June 24, 2011, 11:42 AM
It was a windy day in Seattle about 3 years ago and I wanted a kite... So I went and bought my New tech Techno kite.. I flew it around for about 2 1/2 years... just spins and loops and taking it out in 20mph wind to just speed through the air!!! ;D I used to love that thing...

Then... I went to Kite Hill about 8 months ago and saw Tom flying a Fearless!! I couldn't believe my eyes ??? I was so stunned to learn that kites could do that... I went home that night and started youtubeing and found MAMA's videos and spent weeks watching them and going out and trying to figure out how to do what I was watching... I saw Tom again awhile later and he told me about this forum..

I realized I needed a new kite and Bought my Talon UL about 7 months ago or so!!! I have been hooked on kites ever since the Techno... But when I realized what could be done with them..  8) Well, now it's a lifelong addiction I'm sure. I even started recording myself flying last week... I may have a video to post here in the next few days or so.. now, by no means it it a tpatter or PAW video. But it sure is fun none the less and maybe this way I can get some instruction from all you on what I am doing right or wrong! I still remember my first post on this forum.. "I love this site"! :D .. Well, I love this sport/hobbie as well!!!

Shane


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Bob D on June 24, 2011, 12:51 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit but I've been flying since '97 - just not with Ron's abilities and determination. For a long time it was just flying and playing with the wind window. I didn't know there was a kite community for about 5 years and then I found GWTW.

I don't get out as much as some but I enjoy the learning process and a nice, capable kite. I have to balance family with flying so family wins more often than kites. I'm also a slow learner so it takes me longer but I seem to get there eventually.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: thief on June 24, 2011, 01:32 PM
I have been flying since 95...and still cannot do any of them newfangled tricks y'all are talking about!!!but i can fix them :)


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Allen Carter on June 24, 2011, 02:18 PM
July '98 I wanted to get a nice kite for my daughter's 7th birthday. I was thinking about a nice fabric dragon kite. I figured if she didn't like flying at least we could decorate her room with it. I had flown mylar dragons and fighters in the '70s. I visited GWTW and they had the perfect White Bird Dragon. They also had modern fabric & carbon fighters. I had no idea! I came back a week later for a Shanti Cube and a week later for a PKC fighter, etc., etc., etc.

I resisted sport kites for a good three months, but eventually bought a Prism Vector for my 35th birthday.

I did my first comp 6 months later and for the next few years mainly flew ballet. I learned a few tricks, but nothing like most other turn of the century fliers. These days I do a variety of basic tricks well, but still mainly fly what could be called ballet, I just call it flying.



Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: cerfvoliste on June 24, 2011, 02:19 PM
We were out at Gold Beach on the Oregon coast staying in a furnished Condo and there was this old broken dual line kite in the closet. We spent the evening fixing it up and the next day we spent slamming that thing all over the beach. What a blast. I forgot all about it until a few years later when we were planning a trip back out to the same place. I remembered that kite and started looking around the internet and ended up talking to this guy Steve in Chico on the phone and got a Quantum for our trip. That was in 2005 and I have been hooked ever since.
CV


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: RobB on June 24, 2011, 02:30 PM
James & Tom...
You guys make me feel slow... I've been trying to trick since I got my 'Big Bang' with the FS DVD, but I haven't made anywhere near as much progress as you guys. I've been flying dual line since 2000-2001, but it was a couple of years of flying circles, figure 8s, and stalling before I saw what could be done once you stalled the kite. I think the years of just trying to keep the kite flying hurt my ability to learn tricks, because the inputs for tricks go against the whole thing of keeping the kite in the air  :D

I've flown single line kites since the 70s, and drooled over the dual line kites in the IntoTheWind catalog in the 80s. I was in school, so I didn't have the $$$ to invest in a TOTL in those days. My flagship back then was a Sun Oaks DC, which I still have, and should probably fly more.

Well, thank goodness for the online kite community, I would still be doing loops & figure 8s if it weren't for all of yous...

~Rob.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: ghfisanotti on June 24, 2011, 02:49 PM
In my case, it was july/august 2006, I had just moved to Buenos Aires and I started exploring the neighborhood in my bicycle when I ran into a guy flying a two-line foil, I had always liked kites and things that fly, but I was impressed by a kite that could be controlled at will, and it seemed highly compatible with my cycling hobby, the foil could be easily folded inside a backpack; I decided to research the matter a little bit more on the Internet. When I returned home I started googling kites, found a local company and their site said they showcased kites at one park near my home on saturdays, so the next weekend I was there, one of the kids (Federico Polizotto, around 14 y/o then) was masterfully flying a Benson Deep Space, I was impressed by the perfect control he seemed to have on the kite, then he did a yo-yo and I thought "no, he couldn't have done that, it is against the laws of physics, a kite can't do that..." and then he immediately did a double yo-yo, in that moment I decided I wanted to try that, I bought my first kite that same morning (a Celer by Alto Vuelo) and didn't stop going there every weekend since that day. I won a new hobby (addiction?), a bunch of new friends and more than a few sun burns.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Stickman on June 24, 2011, 10:33 PM
This tread is particularly appropriate for me to comment upon today (see below)

Some years ago I got hooked by seeing Mark Reed fly the legacy Prism kites-Illusion, Proph, Vapor and (my favorite) the Elixer. I still remember the wonderful ephiphany of getting the feel of the fade launch just right-that was 1997-98. I flew when I could for the next couple of years,e.g. traveled with the Proph to England/Ireland, and then slowly got pullled away by cycle racing.  Recently I was looking for something fun,relaxing and somewhat physical to do following knee surgery and remembered my kite bag-what a blast to rediscover my beloved Elixer, realize I had a Vapor I had forgotten about etc. so I started researching, found this forum and BMK, JOE etc and was stunned by the changes in the kites, tricks etc.

Today I flew my new Talon UL for the first time-UNBELIEVABLE. I intentionally accomplished several tricks that I had only dreamed of doing!! Thanks to everyone who recommended Talon and BMK Exile to me. And a big thanks to J Chilese ("Kite Ambassodor"),Allen C, , Demingduck, Chester, Fidelio, tpatter for key info, encouragement,and to Ken McNeil and Mark Clements for GREAT KITES!!-I'm having a blast!!
Scott


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: inewham on June 25, 2011, 04:41 AM
I started flying 2 line kites in the late 80's while visiting Cornwall with my wife but it remained just an occasional thing, flying around in loops and circles, vacations and sunny days at the park.

In 1996 I was on my local park flying my little Brookkite around when I met someone with a Shadow Phantom, he let me have a fly and I was blown away. Within a month I'd discovered rec.kites, the MKF and went to a local shop that sold trick kites (Ice Nine in Nottingham). The Psycho had just come in - I watched the video in the shop and bought one.

So the addiction began  ::)


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Kantaxel on June 25, 2011, 08:15 AM
We started flying dualies in the fall of 2002 on a whim........(that looks like fun)......Spent from then to Xmas of 2005 just pull turning and crashing about six different kites every chance we got..........Then Jim Barber sold us a Quantum Pro and the 'Freestyle Pilot' and as they say.........................Progress isn't like Tom and the rest of you young'uns but we're doing okay for our ages and shoe sizes..............most of all it is just FUN..............and a great stress reliever.

Oh .......and very very addictive ;)

-Jim


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Bill Rogers on June 25, 2011, 09:10 AM
I did my first axel in the fall of '95. I had been trying to learn it all summer (started flying that summer), and couldn't get it. Then I bought a Total Eclipse and did a number of axels the first time I flew it. Then I bought a stranger and life was good :-) Then came the Box of Tricks. Great kite for the time.

After that I was learning every trick I could, mostly from Dodd's Flight School videos. I remember the day I decided to work on the 540. Flew for several hours, trying time and again, and ended up hitting it about three times the whole day. That made it all worth it though. Now if I can't figure out a trick fairly quick, I decide it's not worth doing :-)

See ya,
Bill


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: DWayne on June 26, 2011, 06:25 AM
It started on a trip to the beach. We saw a couple practicing a pairs routine and it looked like fun. I'd never seen a dual line kite before that day. I noticed the Prism brand name and Googled it when we got home. That search led me to this forum and Steve's kite shop. Steve sent me home with a new Hypnotist, a little instruction, and a couple of DVD's. 2 weeks later I bought a BMK Exile and started learning slack line tricks. That was 3 years and 8 months ago. I still look like Forrest Gump with a kite, but I'm having fun   ;)

Denny


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: zippy8 on June 26, 2011, 11:49 AM
n00bs.... I am surrounded by n00bs  ::)

I started flying proper dualline kites in early 1990. One day I hope to get it right.

Mike.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: chilese on June 26, 2011, 12:34 PM
But if you got dualies down, you would then be perfect zippy8.

Even the imported rugs have been given 1 defect on purpose.  :)


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: lylenc on June 26, 2011, 03:03 PM
1988 vacation to Lincoln City bought kites for family bonding at the beach. Started with Trlbys and walked 10 miles of sand back and forth 50' at a time to relaunch two kites our boys kept lawn darting. Of course, they wanted to do loops and spins rather than try to keep them in the air for a few minutes. The next summer we bought a Flexifoil, Spin-off, and a Sky Dart. After that, I bonded with kites and the rest of the family bonded with shopping for the wife and the boys looking for girls on the beach. Didn't know one could do stalls and axels until several years later. First trick was axel on a Crystal something or other - topic on that kite was discussed several months ago when someone inquired about one they have, too.

Goal is to maximize zen - could care less about flying for others, competition, precision, or ballet. Usually fly alone now that Tony (Pug) has moved on to flyfishing. Know enough tricks to keep me happy, but would like to get consistent at Wap-do-wap. May try to learn insane and rising turtle if the inspiration raises to the surface, but usually having too much fun and forget to try them. Still attempt rollups now and then, but not serious whether I ever get consistent. As I'm aging, I'm gradually shifting more to quads than dual line, but dual line SUL/UL is still my favorite type of flying. Favorite kites are Zerostar, Sano SSZ, Sano SSL, Rev 2 standard and vented, and 1.5 vented. Seldom get to fly standard kites due to light and variable winds here, but Deep Space is the one I usually pull out. Still novice at gliders on Wala and Skate - like Skate best.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: JimB on June 26, 2011, 04:19 PM
There were no proper dualine kites in 1990.

:)

n00bs.... I am surrounded by n00bs  ::)

I started flying proper dualline kites in early 1990. One day I hope to get it right.

Mike.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: King-J on June 26, 2011, 05:06 PM
Bought my first duel line sport kite in 2005, in Bodega Bay for $45.00 a Go-Fly-A-Kite Storm series kite, only flew it when at the Beach in high winds, then I found this Forum, and got my first high end kite at the end of 2007 a Custom Widow Maker, got a few others since but not until the end of 2009 did I learn even to Half Axle, and there's been no looking back since, I can do a lot of tricks but I think I need a lot of improvements to what I can do, but I have a lot of fun doing what I do know.
Actual years "trickin" 1.5 years


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Magpiesfooty on June 26, 2011, 05:48 PM
There were no proper dualine kites in 1990.

:)


I started flying proper dualline kites in early 1990. One day I hope to get it right.

Mike.
Probably all that we had back then was a Lite Flite or the beginnings with a North Shore Radical.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Ace on June 26, 2011, 08:09 PM
Late 2008 for me... got my first $20 piece of crap :D Enough to get me hooked though.

A Quantum followed a month later. Then several months later an E2 and I started with tricks.

Had a really steep learning curve helped by some other local fliers. Then Plato-ed for about a year or so chopping and changing kites, ditching Prism for R-sky then Benson etc. Until settling on 1-2 that I liked and now things are making more sense.

Pity I can't fly that often maybe 1-3 hours a week at best :(


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: Dolphinboy on July 01, 2011, 09:41 AM
n00bs.... I am surrounded by n00bs  ::)

I started flying proper dualline kites in early 1990. One day I hope to get it right.

Mike.

I guess I'm still a Noob to slack line tricking but I was a decent dual line flyer back in the late 1980s - very early 1990s. This new (to me) slack stuff is my second try at dual line and I like it a lot better than precision only type flying. Now I am a slacker :D and I love it.

I did have an advantage to someone just starting out as I needed to knock of some rust but I already could fly a dualie well and pretty much jumped right into tricking.


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: jaydub on July 01, 2011, 09:54 AM
Just passed 4 years since my first attempt at an axel.  Progress has been steady, but hardly meteoric.

Compared to some of you guys, I'm obviously a slow learner.  It's taken me over three years to understand how important it is to have the kite stalled before executing the trick, rather than trying to bludgeon the trick.  More body movement. smaller inputs.

I still live in hope of a major breakthrough. :-\


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: glider on July 01, 2011, 01:11 PM
For me it was WSIKF 2006.  I saw a Sea Devil dancing on the end of Lam's lines.  Bought an E2 that day.  But the time I've spent on Rev's has delayed progress in dual-line tricks.  Plus, low inland winds have kept me flying SULs that offer plenty of fun with axels, 540s and Taz's.  Pitchy tricks this summer for sure, unless a Rev mega-fly hapens.  :)

Dave
pdx


Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: WinterDaze on July 01, 2011, 06:17 PM
2007 for me, so 4 years for me also... (Sure, I flew my 'Nipper' for over 15 years (it lived in my ski bag) on 4 different continents but that was just circles and round cornered squares  ::) some might count that, but I'm not for this exercise) So I still feel like one of the nOObs.  8)

It sounds like I have a 'middle speed' learning curve going on  :), I'm one of those 'work the trick till it's an old friend' learners I guess.

Personally, I'm in no rush to 'tick all the boxes', and would prefer to have 3 solid tricks that I can roll out for the odd passer by, over 6-8 'nearly there's' that end up making the kite appear to be 'in serious need of a tail'  8)

Looking forward to the next 4 years  8) ;D 8)





Title: Re: Four Years of trickin' - How about you?
Post by: adx1592 on July 01, 2011, 10:35 PM
1995. I was 5. Took about 5 years off around HS 'cuse social nonsense got the best of me, and I really needed to concentrate on the horn and started flying again about 3 years-ish ago. BMK Mambas and the PDSUL were the 2 kites to pull me out of the time off basically, and they're not going anywhere anytime soon  :)