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Title: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on June 27, 2011, 02:19 AM
Hi all from Russia!  ;)

I'm new to "world of Kite", so i have few questions about this hobby.

1. I've got HQ Yukon stunt kite, but unsure is it good enought to start doing tricks with it. What you think? Is it capable to do old and new tricks? Is it good to start with?
2. Also i've got small kite for basic training in light winds (Calipso II) - Am i doing right?
3. What kind of tricks you recommend for beginner? Stalls?

P.S. Sorry for my bad Eng.  :)


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: Flying Fish on June 27, 2011, 02:30 AM
Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of kiting!

Others will chip in no doubt, but here my thoughts. I started kiting with a Yukon. It's a decent kite to learn the very basics of flying (taking off, landing, flying circles and infinities, etc) and it's almost indestructible, so can deal with those unavoidable early lawn-darts. When it comes to tricking, it's pretty limited. I still have my old Yukon, and I couldn't axel it until I learned to do that on more trickable kites first.

Learn to control the kite first, wherever you are in the wind window. Stalls and snap stalls are the gateway to further tricks, so getting those properly under your belt will make progressing easier.

And your English is WAY better than my Russian  ;)


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on June 27, 2011, 03:34 AM
Tnx for Answer!

I understand, that it's limited... but how much. As i clearly understand you - tricks on this kite are more difficult but possible to do?

And if this kite is not good enought to advance in future, what kite you recommend for the next step?
1. http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1041&Itemid=38 (http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1041&Itemid=38)
or
one of theese: http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=0&Itemid=39 (http://www.invento-hq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=0&Itemid=39)



Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: Hadge on June 27, 2011, 04:23 AM
And if this kite is not good enought to advance in future, what kite you recommend for the next step?


Welcome to the forum.

The HQ JIVE or HQ MAESTRO would be a good choice. They are both quite cheap to buy, easy and cheap to fix broken parts and will both do many tricks.  The HQ INFINITY is a good kite but really made for experienced fliers and not so easy to learn on.

(http://www.kiteworld.co.uk/acatalog/hq_jive_2_emerald_2.jpg)

HQ Jive II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Gy6QlVcRY#ws)


(http://www.wind-designs.com/acatalog/maestroII.jpg)

Stunt kiting video - Da Hui (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCojIUoi7XA#ws)


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: fidelio on June 27, 2011, 04:41 AM
the yukon i haven't flown, but if you do choose to upgrade, the infinity from hq you linked is a good choice for a long term kite. it will do almost any trick, is a good bargain (but not cheap), and is built well (in poland i believe). the frame is a little flexible, and the kite a little heavy, but is durable, good value for money and flies very well.

a good foundation of tricks to learn after you feel confident flying around are:
landing (intentionally)
ground recovery (cartwheel)
stall
side slide
tip stand (on the side of the wind window to start)
axel

once you complete those, if you're feeling dangerous, flare to fade.

welcome to the forum. your english is good. i hope you find happy flying in st. petersburg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6p7UyomJ9A&hd=1


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on July 07, 2011, 11:51 PM
Everyone tnx for answers. 8)

But i have another question.

Yukon have this line:

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incl., Blendline 45 kp / 100 lb., 2 x 20 m / 2 x 65 ft. on winder with straps

What is it? Deneema? Or polyester? What type of line you recommend for this kite?



Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: Flying Fish on July 08, 2011, 12:09 AM
Afraid I can't answer your question, as my Yukon came with 25m, 36kg Dyneema.


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on July 08, 2011, 12:15 AM
Afraid I can't answer your question, as my Yukon came with 25m, 36kg Dyneema.


Like this?:

(http://www.glavzmey.com/images/thumbs/0000307.jpeg)


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: Dolphinboy on July 08, 2011, 12:25 AM
That line is fine but make sure that the lines are even. Don't check the lines attached to the kite, instead put the loops around a fixed object and check to see if they are the same length. I have had some HQ line sets (other brands too) that were off by several cm.


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on July 08, 2011, 12:31 AM
That line is fine but make sure that the lines are even. Don't check the lines attached to the kite, instead put the loops around a fixed object and check to see if they are the same length. I have had some HQ line sets (other brands too) that were off by several cm.

tnx a lot... i'll check this evening... :)


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: Hadge on July 08, 2011, 04:21 AM
Blendline in a mixture of Polyester and dyneema fibres - halfway between cheap line and dyneema - it should be fine for the Yukon. As others have said check your line lengths after a couple of flights as they can stretch.


Title: Re: HQ Yukon - as beginner kite
Post by: da_zubr on August 29, 2011, 06:52 AM
Everyone tnx again. I've got my Yukon and ordered Maestro II for "future".

As using Yukon i've learned already some basic tricks like HalfAxels and Backflips... We have here choppy wind most of the time, so it's difficult to training well... but i do my best  :D