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Title: Google+
Post by: thief on July 11, 2011, 08:51 AM
Any one else coming into google+???
if so "circle me" http://gplus.to/corgimas (http://gplus.to/corgimas)

so far I like it compared to facebook....the sheer numbers of people is no where near fb but it is growing.......
should be interesting to see how it pans out in 6 months or so....and whether or not it is a competitor to fb in the long run...


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 11, 2011, 09:37 AM
I'm in there but so far I can't see any reason to be on both sites. It may be inevitable, but for now I don't see any killer app that Google+ has. Just refinements for what I already do on Facebook.

The mobile version is pretty meager too.

I like the Picasaweb integration a lot, as that's where I keep lots of pictures anyway. They'll have to get rid of the storage limits though.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: thief on July 11, 2011, 09:45 AM
The storage requirements were lifted a lot i think two weeks back....
BUT......
a new things that was noticed by Stevo is that to comment on a picasa picture now you HAVE to be a member of google+.....so....you can show people the pictures, but the 80 year old grandmother who wants to say "he looks so nice" cannot unless they are a member of google+.....

i like the google-product integration....the stream works okay....and the sparks application where you can find news items on things you like is sketchy at returning good results....
r


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2011, 10:36 AM
Nobody's ever commented on my Picasa photos before Google+, so I'm not really bemoaning the loss of that.

I'm finding it more fun than Facebook. There's something more immediate and conversational about it. Plus, the integration with the Google infrastructure, and a nice Android app...I like it. And it's only in field trial, with lots of improvements coming to work out some of the early bugs.

If everyone I knew moved over from Facebook, I wouldn't shed a tear to leave it myself.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 11, 2011, 11:13 AM
I suppose I don't care which, one or the other but not two for the forseeable future!  :'(

I suppose it's inevitable, you'll either have to double your efforts or very specifically ignore one or the other.

One of the main reasons Facebook works is that "everybody" is there.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 11, 2011, 11:14 AM
The storage requirements were lifted a lot i think two weeks back....


Still 1GB for me.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: tpatter on July 11, 2011, 12:01 PM
It will be tough for google to pull this off for that reason alone - everyone is already on FB. It took many years - I've had FB for years but never really used it until some critical mass was hit and enough friends were on it to make it worth using.

The good news is that we they should push each other to get better.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: donaldrke on July 11, 2011, 12:28 PM
I would love to try Google+ but Have not been able to sign up yet anyone would like to fly a invite this way, would be gratefully appreciative. Have been watching everyday for it to open up again, and just has not.

Thanks
Donald


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Steve Hall on July 11, 2011, 01:10 PM
Check your email Don.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2011, 01:34 PM
The storage requirements were lifted a lot i think two weeks back....


Still 1GB for me.

Yes and no...here's how it works. http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1224181 (http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1224181)

The basic limit is 1 GB. It will still show that if you don't buy more.

However, for people in Google+, "Photos up to 2048 x 2048 pixels and videos up to 15 minutes won't count towards your free storage." For pictures uploaded within Google+, anything larger than that size will be automatically resized to that limit, therefore not counting against the 1GB limit.


For non Google+ users, just using Picasa, it's 800x800 and lower that does not count against your limit. Once you reach the storage limit however, any subsequent uploads to Picasa would be automatically resized to 800 max on a side.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: thief on July 11, 2011, 02:33 PM
The storage requirements were lifted a lot i think two weeks back....


Still 1GB for me.
yeah..sorry i did not explain myself well enough.   it is my understanding that the size of the photos is VERY in play....pictures that are medium and small do not count against your 1g storage....that way you can fill up picasa with smaller pictures to sharei n google+ and still have extra to spare!

oh..just saw Jeff's response....
yep.......


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: thief on July 11, 2011, 02:35 PM
the slickest thing about google+ i find is the fact that the notification bar is in my gmail page...so i can see what is going on without filling up my email box with facebook emails, or having to leave my email page


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: chilese on July 11, 2011, 02:45 PM
Google is the new Microsoft.

My Picasa website, which is so much better than the Webshots site, costs just

21GB for $5/year, unlimited picture size, video, no real ads.

Hard to beat.

Still don't know why my friend Sam asked me to join Facebook. Now there are hundreds of people I don't know posting stuff I don't read.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 11, 2011, 02:50 PM
Still don't know why my friend Sam asked me to join Facebook. Now there are hundreds of people I don't know posting stuff I don't read.


No wonder. You've got over 500 "friends". Trim it back to less than 200 and the signal to noise ratio will improve.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: donaldrke on July 11, 2011, 05:00 PM
Thank you very very much,


Donald


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2011, 10:47 PM
Google is the new Microsoft.
Apple is the new Microsoft.

Google is the new Yahoo.

;)


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 11, 2011, 11:35 PM


Google is the new Yahoo.

;)

Google was the new Yahoo ten years ago.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Bob D on July 12, 2011, 04:08 AM
Google+ might be nice. I'm getting tired of getting updates from people playing Farmville. I don't CARE if your sheep had lambs! Most of FB is so random anyways and what's the point where the balance tips to narcissim?


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2011, 10:30 AM


Google is the new Yahoo.

;)

Google was the new Yahoo ten years ago.
OK, then...Google+ is the new Google. ;)


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2011, 10:31 AM
Google+ might be nice. I'm getting tired of getting updates from people playing Farmville. I don't CARE if your sheep had lambs! Most of FB is so random anyways and what's the point where the balance tips to narcissim?
In fairness to Facebook, while they don't make filtering easy, this is more a problem with your friends spamming the feed with that stuff.

You can block any app generated content when you click the "X" to the right and tell it to never show you posts from Farmville.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: donaldrke on July 12, 2011, 07:21 PM
been playing around with Google+ and while still learning about it. The main part has been the circles and how your post can be sent to certain circles and can be made public as well. I find that I have more control over what is posted. Still working on the hangout thing. I'm sure that once your friends try it out and more people get on it, the use of it will multiply.

Just My Opinion.

Donald


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Allen Carter on July 12, 2011, 07:35 PM
been playing around with Google+ and while still learning about it. The main part has been the circles and how your post can be sent to certain circles and can be made public as well. I find that I have more control over what is posted.

This is what I don't get. I've been doing this on Facebook for a long time. You make lists of Friends. Google has a slicker interface for this, but it seems like the same thing. Facebook wi certainly include improved listmaking in an update before too long. I'd bet money on it.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2011, 09:15 PM
They may have to.

Zuckerberg has said that "people don't like to make lists." Most Facebook users don't even know about the feature. It is there, and I use it, but your average user doesn't even know about it. Facebook's entire aim is to get you to share as much publicly as possible. They don't want people using lists, really. Google has made it their whole point that you share differently with different people. That's very true, and I appreciate that they are starting from that point of view.

It's funny that Facebook has now blocked two applications for exporting people's data out so they can use it elsewhere. It also tells you what Facebook thinks about who owns the data that their users put in. Meanwhile, it is another huge emphasis on G+ that you own your data, and you can take it whenever you like.

The differences aren't huge, but the little things add up. I don't check Facebook all the time, but I use GMail and Calendar and Maps all the time, and the menu bar sits right up there and offers more opportunities to engage. (For better and worse) I think they've really got something good starting here. I don't know if it will have legs, but I'm enjoying it.


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: thief on July 13, 2011, 03:33 AM
and just for fun....this is from http://socialstatistics.com/?include=statistics&id=263 (http://socialstatistics.com/?include=statistics&id=263)

Zuckerberg's # of followers on google+
2011-07-12    134,328    
he was the most followed user on google+ until he made his profile private last night....yes Zuckerberg is on the competition's site....


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: indigo_wolf on July 13, 2011, 07:36 AM
Remember, when your friends were the ones your talked to (not texted) on the phone, emailed, and met on the flying field (or the restaurant).  While I have some interesting conversations with a singer in TX, I still find it amusing how many people in public places are glues to the phones or tablets communicating with people that are elsewhere.

Social media developed by geeks..... certain bit of irony there.

ATB,
Sam


Title: Re: Google+
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2011, 01:55 PM
Remember, when your friends were the ones your talked to (not texted) on the phone, emailed, and met on the flying field (or the restaurant). ...

I'm glad it's not just that, or I'd have many fewer friends. I've always been a bit introverted and have never liked talking on the phone. My friends have usually been the people right around me, like classmates in school. I'm glad I have so many ways to connect with people, especially over common interests.