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Title: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Sketch on July 16, 2011, 04:58 PM
 ;) :D ;D ???
Just surfed into the PRISM WEB SITE A FEW MINUTES AGO.....AND NOTICED THEY MENTIONED A "NEW LOWER PRICE ON THE ZEPHYR?"
Just the thought of that makes me PUCKAAAAUP!

AM I SHOCKED OR WHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT' ?::) ::) ::) :o :D :D ;)


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Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: jeepersjoey on July 16, 2011, 05:25 PM
Huh?

Are you talking about the $250 Zephyr with the case that is now $200 without the $50 case?

If not...where is this announcement?


Title: Re: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: coop on July 16, 2011, 05:43 PM
And only one set of lines as well.

Tappin on my EVO


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: cerfvoliste on July 16, 2011, 07:31 PM
Prism is still making kites???   ???
CV


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: indigo_wolf on July 17, 2011, 05:48 AM
Huh?

Are you talking about the $250 Zephyr with the case that is now $200 without the $50 case?

If not...where is this announcement?


The announcement is in the header of the Prism Forum... to the right of the header block that lookes like:
(http://prismkites.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/yabblogo.png)

When the Zephy originally came out, some folks liked the case and some folk complained about it (and to some extent the how it added to the cost of the kite.  So in 2011 when the Zephyr goes with an expandable sleeve and drops the price.  So some people will grouse about the kite no longer coming with the moulded case. 

It's kind of cool that Mark has been able to retain any hair.

Are we really going to ding a kite because it only comes with one lineset instead of two?  ???   

Somewhere prairie  dog burrows are caving in from all the underground laughing.

Laughing Prairie Dog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEsjXHiIY0#)

The announcement might be a bit misleading as it is referring to the 2011 pricing which has been in effect for months now.

Given the economy, it's not hard to suss out why the packaging/accessories were changed to provide a more attractive price for folks who might be curtailing some of the kite purchasing practices.   Not entirely surprising given how long some killer kites have languished on the Swap Meet.

ATB,
Sam


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Sketch on July 17, 2011, 03:46 PM
BARE BUTT BOTTOM LINE THEN?????

The price of the kite remains the same...EXCEPT FOR ALL THE "TAKE-A-WAYS' that were part of the original deal.

THANKFULLY (HOPEFULLY? ;)) THE QUALITY AND THE KITE ITSELF REMAIN THE SAME?

Hummm?
Kinda sounds like LESSON LEARNED IN MARKETING FROM THE AUTO INDUSTRY ....where you can buy a stripped down version of a SUPER SPORTS CAR FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LESS..n' all that jazz? ::)



Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Ca Ike on July 17, 2011, 06:04 PM
BARE BUTT BOTTOM LINE THEN?????

The price of the kite remains the same...EXCEPT FOR ALL THE "TAKE-A-WAYS' that were part of the original deal.

THANKFULLY (HOPEFULLY? ;)) THE QUALITY AND THE KITE ITSELF REMAIN THE SAME?

Hummm?
Kinda sounds like LESSON LEARNED IN MARKETING FROM THE AUTO INDUSTRY ....where you can buy a stripped down version of a SUPER SPORTS CAR FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LESS..n' all that jazz? ::)


ACtually comparing the 2011 zeph to my early zeph the quality in some respects has improved.  Better TE material and a few other small details that were annoyances on the early Zeph's were improved.


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: indigo_wolf on July 17, 2011, 06:09 PM
CA Ike did a good before/after (2010/2011) review of the Zephyr here (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=5153.0)

Kinda sounds like LESSON LEARNED IN MARKETING FROM THE AUTO INDUSTRY ....where you can buy a stripped down version of a SUPER SPORTS CAR FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LESS..n' all that jazz? ::)


If anyone actually sat down and compared changes in cars over the year, I suspect the comparison wouldn't hold. It's always been a two steps forward and one step back proposition for cars.

  • Plastic Headlights that haze over
  • Single color taillights
  • Sintered metal door handles (always fun in the winter)
  • Radios tied into the power locks receiver
  • Plastic sunshade arms that droop
  • Harder and harder to do your own lightbulb replacements
  • Cheaper and cheaper jacks
  • Plastic TPMS bodies tied to aluminum shafts that corrode and need to be replaced when they fuse to the rim ($200+ a set)
  • Cast rims replacing steel and machined rims
  • Ridiculously oversized, low aspect ratio tires that required beefier suspension and increase road noise
  • Doors that freeze shut in the winter and strand elderly folks out in the cold

Quality is job #43

Sorry for the rant and apologies to anyone in the auto industry.  So much common sense has been carefully engineered out of cars in favor of buttons and flashing widgets.

And mileage claims...  :D  :D 

ATB,
Sam


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Sketch on July 18, 2011, 10:44 AM
CA Ike did a good before/after (2010/2011) review of the Zephyr here ([url]http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=5153.0[/url])

Kinda sounds like LESSON LEARNED IN MARKETING FROM THE AUTO INDUSTRY ....where you can buy a stripped down version of a SUPER SPORTS CAR FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS LESS..n' all that jazz? ::)


If anyone actually sat down and compared changes in cars over the year, I suspect the comparison wouldn't hold. It's always been a two steps forward and one step back proposition for cars.

[lisQuality is job #43

Sorry for the rant and apologies to anyone in the auto industry.  So much common sense has been carefully engineered out of cars in favor of buttons and flashing widgets.

And mileage claims...  :D  :D 

ATB,
Sam

That is for sure.....
Our Fancy little WOLFSBURG IN SHEEPS CLOTHING 2008 Jetta has been found on road dead numerous times...plus the plastic interior knobs...seat latches breaking and falling off...  burns over a quart of oil every 3 thousand miles..plus 89.00 or more for each oil change..and constant burnt out headlights, taillights and interior lights. ETC AND THE BEAT BEAT GOES ON AND ON!
and now ready for a HUGE AND COSTLY $1200.00+ tune up that must be made or our 100,000 mile warrenteeee' is toast!
GADS! U ARE RIGHT ON...PRISM KITES STILL SEEM LIKE A GREAT KITE FOR THE LONG HAUL....and seem to hold up better than the majority of kites in my overstuff kite bag.


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: elalmadelpiloto on July 25, 2011, 11:25 AM
... Pardon but tha sail is Icarex?
Thanks


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Steve Hall on July 25, 2011, 11:29 AM
... Pardon but tha sail is Icarex?
Thanks
That is correct.  The Zephyr's sail is now Icarex.


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: elalmadelpiloto on July 25, 2011, 11:32 AM
Mmmmm... and all by $200...Interesting...
What about pull?
Thanks


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Danno419 on July 28, 2011, 09:47 AM
Mmmmm... and all by $200...Interesting...
What about pull?
Thanks

still pulls like a truck.


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Steve Hall on July 28, 2011, 12:26 PM
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still pulls like a truck.
What kind of winds are you flying in???


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: Danno419 on July 28, 2011, 01:07 PM
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still pulls like a truck.
What kind of winds are you flying in???
anywhere from 6-15km/h
any more than 15 it gets put away.


Title: Re: NEW LOWER PRICE FROM PRISM????REALLY???? I AM SHOCKED OR WHUUUUT?
Post by: DD on July 28, 2011, 01:58 PM
... Pardon but tha sail is Icarex?
Thanks
That is correct.  The Zephyr's sail is now Icarex.

what was the sail before? any differences from the pilots perspective?