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Title: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 24, 2011, 08:02 AM
I have searched on through as much as i can find to (kitelife, sport kite mag, rec.kites, google etc) and have not been able to find anything......

Has anyone heard of an old company named Tri S Kite Company?
The tag has three address' on it with two of them being in Warren Mi, and one in Fenton Mi

Is there a chance that Tri S kite Company would now be known as Skyburner?????
Anyone???
I have an email in to the Trennepohls as well...

r



Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 25, 2011, 02:46 PM
here is a picture of the delight:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NtfKIYhAxQc/Ti3fEuHfw9I/AAAAAAAABuI/O5CxaNzGMi4/s640/P7230063.JPG)


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: adx1592 on July 25, 2011, 03:41 PM
I can't say yes or no, but I'd be floored if that was a Jon kite. Graphically, it doesn't look the rest of the SB line. Plus, I'm think I was told that the original skyburner was his first kite. That is a sweet looking kite though...  :)


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Allen Carter on July 25, 2011, 04:17 PM
I like that kite!


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 25, 2011, 04:42 PM
it is all painted.........
leading edges are those prospars (fiberglass/carbon stripey ones) and spreaders are Skyshark 3ps (iirc)


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Magpiesfooty on July 25, 2011, 04:50 PM
Just looking at the design and of all the things that you have said about it, it would have to be at least '93 or newer in age.  I was very up to date with kites from 90 - 92 and I am not familiar with that one at all.  The whiskers, sparing and design would lead me to believe that it would be in a far newer date range.  Could be just a local kite guy that made a few kites.  It is nice looking though.  Have you flown it yet??

Take care,

Magpiesfooty.


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Allen Carter on July 25, 2011, 05:00 PM
Oh yeah, Skyburner predates that kite. They started in like '90 or '91

I'd agree, that's a '93-'96 design.

Probably pulls like a truck and turns like a boat.

Is it for sale?  :P


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 25, 2011, 05:32 PM
It might be part of a new consignment lot..... ;)

I am going to guess it is not a single maker with the three address' on the tag....very cleanly made as well...
I will pull it back out for some more pictures.......

standoffs are held on with tiny bit so f string as they are the early 90s style with arrow knocks on one end and an end cap on the other....rubber tubing fittings...i would say half ounce ripstop....i would say it has been flown VERY little.....

hmm...

it did have a few other TREASURES along with it.........


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: rncembal on July 25, 2011, 05:56 PM
But I'd Email Jon the pic he may know it's origins


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 25, 2011, 06:22 PM
i did......no answer yet.....maybe he is not completely back on his feet yet....


Title: Re: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: coop on July 25, 2011, 06:24 PM
That thing is awesome!

Tappin on my EVO


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Magpiesfooty on July 25, 2011, 07:26 PM
Just so you know, nearly everything pre 1991 was fiberglass with some offers in graphite tubing.  No real carbon at that time and graphite was just cutting it's teeth and mainly on foreign kites. The first kite that I got with 'Really Cool' new sparring (Other than my Rev I...) was my Guinea Wasp and that was purchased at the '91 KTA convention and it had .230 AFC's on it.  My North Shore, which is one of the very early ones, had two spines (heavy and light) and was framed in Easton Wrapped and that was VERY high tech at that time.  The kites from the UK started to have some of the Carbon stuff, like my Flexifoil Scorpion, (my first kite with dual standoffs...) the early skyburners and phantoms were out at that time. My Lite Flites had very small Graphite tubes for the frame.  the UK also heavily used the Carrington fabric. Nice stuff.  I digress.   

Have fun,

Magpiesfooty. 


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: adx1592 on July 25, 2011, 08:03 PM
SB was 1990. One year before I was born.
That's still one of the most attractive kites I've seen lately though, hands down. Really nice.
He's mostly back on his feet, he flew the solus wednesday for a bit. Almost around with no cane and can do stairs a bit. He's getting a lot better. I'm just glad he's feeling good and is back around the shop  :)


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Ca Ike on July 25, 2011, 09:16 PM
Hmm.  I remember a company back when I was in college in 92-93 that touted their silk screened sails but the name escapes me atm.  WOnder if thats where the "tri s" came from.  YOU have any pics of the tag you can post?  So many small makers building out of garages came and went back in the 90's that its hard to keep track.  You can try city business records from then to find a bit more info.


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 27, 2011, 05:27 PM
So....I learned a bit more from Missus Trennepohl (I generally do ;) )....
This kite is from a small kite maker....he sold his hand painted sport kites at arts/crafts festivals in Michigan.......
There are some detail pictures - follow the picture:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--PhSzzdHudQ/TjCsSz7vCcI/AAAAAAAABus/I_LJd1X2hXI/s800/P7230061.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/WindsweptKites/TriSKiteCo)


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: mikenchico on July 28, 2011, 07:41 AM
Interesting technique on the paint looks like some is brushed or spread with a rag and some is spayed. Do you think it is the Design Master paint or an Acrylic? I have sooo much white fabric but I'm not real found of a single color on duals, maybe I'll try that if a prototype works.



Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 28, 2011, 08:33 AM
Mike: i would say sprayed on with lots of masking....the nonsharp edges of the painting might be from the wet template/mask being put down.

if you head over to the Other Other place there is a number of threads about painting on fabric....
Scott Hampton prefers to use 1.5oz fabric for the best results....


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Ca Ike on July 28, 2011, 12:21 PM
Interesting technique on the paint looks like some is brushed or spread with a rag and some is spayed. Do you think it is the Design Master paint or an Acrylic? I have sooo much white fabric but I'm not real found of a single color on duals, maybe I'll try that if a prototype works.


Actually I believe thats all hand painted.  THe sharp edges could be done with a painters art knife(fancy putty knife) and the feathered edges look like there done with a dry brush stroke.  The spotting is usually done by tapping the brush against a dowel just above the surface.   NOw though you can get similar results with an air brush.


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: mikenchico on July 28, 2011, 03:28 PM
Airbrushes I have, and with no experience on them I'm sure anything I painted would come out looking something like that. Have never seen the Design Master in bottles though, Matt Brown was doing some very nice work with an acrylic though that was brushable.



Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: Ca Ike on July 28, 2011, 07:07 PM
There is definitely a learning process to air brushing but its not much harder then drawing and they have acrylics that you can use in an airbrush.  I haven't airbrushed a kite yet but I have done my own R/C bodies.  Here's a couple of my best airbrushed R/C paint jobs so you can see how intricate you can get if you want to.
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/501/p1010094kz.jpg)
By caike23 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/caike23) at 2011-07-28

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1041/p1010084w.jpg)
By caike23 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/caike23) at 2011-07-28


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: thief on July 29, 2011, 04:22 AM
"Looks like design master by folding, crumpling, and or twisting the fabric then spraying you can get these types of effects. then refold again and get different layering. We've done similar effects in my workshop classes trying different tie die wrapping and folding techniques."
Scott Hampton's words on it. ...


Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: mikenchico on July 29, 2011, 07:47 AM
Yeah my Brother was doing some amazing airbrushing on Motorcycle helmets, that's why I invested in the brushes, compressors and regulator/driers, I've just never really used them yet. Oh I can't draw either except technical drawing, give me a scale, board and T-square and I can do magic (I have all that too), hand me a blank sheet of paper and a crayon and it'll look like a Kindergartner's work  ;)

Those are some nice jobs, inside paint on the clear acrylic bodies? I used to do slot cars as a youngster, nothing fancy like that though.



Title: Re: Older sport kite company?
Post by: kiteslinger on July 29, 2011, 08:32 AM
Yup! looks to be wrinkle  then spray in one direction then applied another color in the other direction...
 most of the items I sprayed the fabric bleeds out well before  the  paint master even starts to look faded... (http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/42533/2644469880072413283S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2644469880072413283QPUSRY)
here's a bag I did for Lee but I was going for the smokey look  I did another for George I think that one was more of the crinkle look