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Title: Magnet
Post by: Kareloh on June 07, 2012, 11:48 PM
(http://www.kareloh.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/20120608-082536.jpg)

Magnet #2 by David Rüger.
Build quality is very nice. 5pt LS, p200 LE and Spine. 5mm structil US.

Hope to fly it today or tomorrow.


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Ara Ararauna on June 08, 2012, 08:59 AM
It is very nice!
I had never seen a kite with the tail so high above the floor (then again I haven't seen that many kites since I'm a newbie).
I wonder whether that makes it more precision or trick oriented.
Please give feedback on your flight.
Thanks for the picture.

N.


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: PAW on June 08, 2012, 09:26 AM
Nice...good job David  :)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: kwwilson on June 08, 2012, 08:34 PM
I bet it will be a real  trickster. Have fun!


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Ca Ike on June 08, 2012, 09:13 PM
SHould be a pitch and turtle based trick machine with that much wing and such a short spine.  HOpefully you'll have some vid to go along with your flight report.


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Krijn on June 08, 2012, 10:04 PM
i made a video with the prototype:

https://vimeo.com/41031138 (https://vimeo.com/41031138)


Krijn


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 08, 2012, 10:34 PM
It looks very fun and agile - thanks for the video.  I can't wait to fly one myself!

Here is another video:

https://vimeo.com/39412155

-Tom


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 23, 2012, 05:29 PM
And here is mine.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sVGFPqx7JNU/T-Yw2uY8dkI/AAAAAAAADTs/gIh2zE_kKDo/s800/photo.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eCPdCuPm070/T-Ywy35qeHI/AAAAAAAADTg/lsvJwYpcctI/s800/photo.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zVg_S-VusU8/T-YwtD2yPzI/AAAAAAAADTU/v9tObBGZ7Vg/s800/photo.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S9DBmP8ItWI/T-Yw9v8eh4I/AAAAAAAADT4/FMbw6Kl0iCs/s800/photo.JPG)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: sugarbaker on June 23, 2012, 05:52 PM
Tom, I don't recognize the the field you took your pictures at... is it in Seattle?  Let me know so I can check it out when I get back to town!


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 23, 2012, 07:30 PM
Stephen,

This is at the 10th street dock in Everett - right across from Jetty Island.  There is a park right near the water that you are not supposed to fly in, but I do if no one is around. 

The designated flying area is on the other side of the parking lot and the wind there is not nearly as good, but workable.   

My son is hooked on paintball which is in Everett, so I try to get some flying on when he is doing that.  The wind here is super sweet when coming off the water at any angle. 


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: coogee on June 24, 2012, 12:41 AM
The Magnet looks good and the vids of the kite are cool. I like it!
      Mike


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: kalle on June 24, 2012, 01:43 AM
Didn`t see this thread before. A magnet on the other side of the planet makes me really happy! Nice pictures Tom.  :)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: jaydub on June 24, 2012, 01:45 AM
Nice looking kite.  Don't forget the flight report, Tom


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Kareloh on June 24, 2012, 04:18 AM
Nice Tom!

Great spot as well!


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Krijn on June 24, 2012, 04:54 AM
I'm waiting for a Tom-Magnet-movie.

Nice Magnet!


Krijn


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: kalle on June 24, 2012, 06:13 AM
I'm waiting for a Tom-Magnet-movie.

So do I! :)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 25, 2012, 09:43 AM
I'm waiting for a Tom-Magnet-movie.

I wish I would had remembered my video camera this day - 'off the hook' fun flying in near perfect wind that day!  I'll throw it in the bag for next time.

It's a sporty kite for sure.  Loves to flip, flop, fly, don't care if I die!  :).  Taz, yoyo, precision monster with a solid bank-on-it turtle (easy riser) with light pull and small inputs even when the wind is up.

Also, kudos to David for a great build as well - its very very well made all around.


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Kareloh on June 25, 2012, 02:26 PM
I need a cameraman. Did make shoot some footage with the proto, but i really don't like the fixed camera angle. Doesn't do the kite justice IMHO. Has been a while since the last IckyTV update, but if one comes... it's going to be a Magnet video.

Review on KC by the way:
(http://v2.1.kiteclique.com/wordpress-3.0/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Magnet1.jpg)

http://v2.1.kiteclique.com/wordpress-3.0/wordpress/david-ruger-magnet-review-by-carlo (http://v2.1.kiteclique.com/wordpress-3.0/wordpress/david-ruger-magnet-review-by-carlo)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 25, 2012, 02:46 PM
Sweet review!  I enjoyed reading it!

http://v2.1.kiteclique.com/wordpress-3.0/wordpress/david-ruger-magnet-review-by-carlo (http://v2.1.kiteclique.com/wordpress-3.0/wordpress/david-ruger-magnet-review-by-carlo)


-Tom


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: kalle on June 25, 2012, 03:00 PM
Thanks for the kind words, I am really happy about them!


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: tpatter on June 26, 2012, 10:46 PM
Just to affirm that I really do like red/white/black/grey in combination!  :)  (despite my recent swap meet sales).

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PdQ1foKOjJA/T-lFWDejhkI/AAAAAAAADWg/ePfrYjrmTD8/s800/photo.JPG)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: jaydub on December 11, 2012, 04:44 AM
Copy of a review on the Magnet from the other place. ;)

David has very kindly sent over his personal Magnet to the UK so that it could be trialled by Mike Fogg, Yan Spooner and myself.

The comments below should be read in conjunction with Carlo's excellent review and are the observations of a much less skilled flyer.

Flight Characteristics

The first and most important thing to say is that this is one FUN kite.

It’s certainly different from my other kites and it took a few flights to tune into it.
One thing that’s for sure:  the Magnet’s capabilities far exceed mine.

It has a huge wind range going from 4 mph up to whatever wind you can manage to trick in (and Mike and I had it out in winds gusting to at least 20 mph).

It has a light presence on the lines, providing sufficient feedback in low winds and without excessive pull on the lines at the top end of the wind range.

I had no problem doing all the tricks in my repertoire, although some needed a bit more tuning into the timing than others.  Details below:

  • Axels – Small inputs required.
  • HAs and Cascades – Nose goes high very quickly so doesn't need any slack in the flare.  Almost a continual ‘roll’ inputs from one hand to the other to lift it out.  Stunning when you get the timing right.
  • Tazes – Because the nose goes high very quickly, it doesn't need any real slack before the pull for the rotation.  Happiest almost flat when it almost spins round on itself.
  • 540s – No issues, but not as flat as some.
  • Slots and Multislots – Slightly timing critical, but very reliable once I’d sorted out the timing.
  • Single pop  yoyo – Pitches forward nice and easily. Rotation fairly quick.
  • Snap Lazies & Multilazies- Easy snaps into a nice deep turtle.  Timing for the multi easy as well.  Really like the way it does these.
  • Flic-flacs – Manageable, but need to pull back early to avoid the dead spot in the flare.
  • JLs – JLs like a dream.  Very easy and rises in height very quickly when you get the timing right.
  • BSs and BS Cascades – Reasonably easy.  Small kite, so rotates easily.
  • Insanes – Really easy to catch.
  • Crazy Copters and Wap-do-Waps – Not tricks I can do, but the pitchiness of the Magnet means it would only be a matter of time before I crack them.
  • Combos – transitions fairly nicely from one trick to the next.   Managed a Cascade to Taz combo, which is the first time I've managed that combination on any kite.

Build Quality

David developed the kite for his own use as the sort of kite he wanted to fly and to develop his own understanding of kite design.

Although he is happy to make the odd kite for friends, he is not setting up to be a commercial kite manufacturer and some of the construction details reflect this. (Please note that I only have Benson and JoE kites in my bag at the moment, so my expectations may be unreasonably high here. ;)

The good:
  • The stitching is excellent – nice and straight.
  • Bisonyl nose and US wear patch – should prove bullet proof.
  • The framing is the well proven P200 LE / 5PT Black Diamond lower spreader combination – more than adequately responsive for a kite of this size and very resilient to any bangs and crashes.

The not so good:
  • The stand off reinforcement is Dacron rather than mylar.  Is this a problem?  Certainly not for now and I’ve no idea whether it would be later on in the kite’s life.  Only making the comment as it is different from all the other kites I’ve owned.
  • The sail attachment to the spine is by a simple loop of bridle line.  A simple and cost effective solution, but does it result in the lines getting caught on the spine more than with a velcro tail?  Not sure.
  • On our first flight in very gusty 10-20mph conditions, both Mike Fogg and I had the lines catch under the Dacron reinforcement at the spine. This seemed like a major issue at the time, but the problem all but disappeared when flying in better conditions and having got more accustomed to the kite.
  • The addition of a mylar reinforcement along the spine would provide additional protection against general wear and tear and help prevent sail damage from a spine failure.
  • Leach protection.  There is no additional dacron or cordura to protect against excessive wear of the leach when doing roll ups or JLs.  The addition of such protection would in my view significantly extend the life of the sail.

Conclusion

The Magnet is definitely a fun kite.  It does have a tendency to do unexpected things if you get the inputs wrong.  However, it behaves very predictably when the inputs are right.  You just need a couple sessions to start feeling you are in control of it, rather than the other way around!

The most fun I've had flying a kite in a long, long while.

Definitely a thumbs up from me.  8)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: Kareloh on January 02, 2013, 01:54 AM
The plans are now public:
http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/MAGNET-Bauplan-t78906.html (http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/MAGNET-Bauplan-t78906.html)


Title: Re: Magnet
Post by: dragonfly on March 14, 2013, 04:59 AM
The plans are now public:
[url]http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/MAGNET-Bauplan-t78906.html[/url] ([url]http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/MAGNET-Bauplan-t78906.html[/url])

Open plans in English here: http://uploaded.net/file/476l5fth (http://uploaded.net/file/476l5fth)



Great reviews. Great kite - Gee Thanx.   :)


(http://ie.kites-ireland.com/image_library/magnet_beach1.jpg)

(http://ie.kites-ireland.com/image_library/magnet_beach2.jpg)

Magnet in Stella Plage on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/25119185)