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Title: Young flier tips?
Post by: xtrmbrdr on June 10, 2012, 05:46 PM
My 4 yr old son loved his mini kite that his grandparents got him for Easter but it was so small that all it really did was was get tangled.  So, I bought him a Prism Stowaway Delta (ok maybe I got it for both of us) anyway, the best place I can think of flying this is within about 300 yds of an Interstate, so I was thinking about a "safety" line just in case.  I was thinking about a 10 ft, or so, length of string with a large loop that I could run the main line through.  Any thoughts?  Would the drag be too much? etc?


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: boomertype on June 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
Welcome to the Forum.
What are trying to accomplish and what is your concern.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: xtrmbrdr on June 10, 2012, 06:25 PM
My concern is that my son may drop the reel, allowing the kite to dive onto a car on the Interstate.  Far fetched, but it may be possible.  I figure that if I have a line with a loop running through the main line I can catch it and walk it in before that is an issue.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ca Ike on June 10, 2012, 06:29 PM
A tent stake with a 5-10 foot line tied to it and the reel will work better.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: xtrmbrdr on June 10, 2012, 06:43 PM
Are we talking about the same principle?  But with a tent stake, I have plenty of those :)


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: boomertype on June 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
A friend of mine used to run the kite line thru the shackle on a dog leash and keep hold of the leash. The line was always within reach and slid thru the shackle.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ca Ike on June 10, 2012, 07:13 PM
Are we talking about the same principle?  But with a tent stake, I have plenty of those :)
Yep but with the tent stake its hands free for you, your kid can hold the reel and feel like hes flying all by himself :).  IF he drops the reel the staked line will act as the safety.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: madhabitz on June 10, 2012, 07:20 PM
It's probably not a good idea to tether a safety line to your kid.... especially a four-year-old. Don't know if something like that crossed your mind, but he could get hurt. Heh.... just sayin'

It's amazing when you think about it, but little kids usually do a great job of hanging onto kite string spools. I do think it's a great idea to do something as a backup-- bizarro things can and do happen and causing an auto accident would be horrible.

One little head's up-- I've got that particular kite and love it. However, if the wind gets to blowing it will pull pretty hard. Might be great for you to fly that one and get the kid something like the Easy Flyer. Those suckers are awesome-- they'll fly in just about any wind and won't pull anywhere close to what the StowAway will.

Easy Flyer
http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=56 (http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=56)


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ca Ike on June 10, 2012, 07:24 PM
It's probably not a good idea to tether a safety line to your kid.... especially a four-year-old. Don't know if something like that crossed your mind, but he could get hurt. Heh.... just sayin'

It's amazing when you think about it, but little kids usually do a great job of hanging onto kite string spools. I do think it's a great idea to do something as a backup-- bizarro things can and do happen and causing an auto accident would be horrible.

One little head's up-- I've got that particular kite and love it. However, if the wind gets to blowing it will pull pretty hard. Might be great for you to fly that one and get the kid something like the Easy Flyer. Those suckers are awesome-- they'll fly in just about any wind and won't pull anywhere close to what the StowAway will.

Easy Flyer
[url]http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=56[/url] ([url]http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=56[/url])
Not to the kid lol from a stake to the kite reel.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: madhabitz on June 10, 2012, 07:27 PM
I was mostly kidding about that (lol) but you never know, eh? It would go into the category of "WHAT were they thinking???"


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: xtrmbrdr on June 10, 2012, 08:13 PM
The plan would be, that he would have full control of the kite, if something were to happen, I would have a "safety" that the main line would run through, a piece of string that the reel couldn't go through but that the main line could easliy run through, that I was holding on to.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ca Ike on June 10, 2012, 09:02 PM
if its the same reel they use on other kites with the holes just tie the safety line through one of the holes


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: mikenchico on June 11, 2012, 12:59 AM
if its the same reel they use on other kites with the holes just tie the safety line through one of the holes

That sort of negates being able to release or reel in line easily. I think the original posters idea of the safety line slipping over the flying line gives more freedom. And kids want to run with a kite, a stake kills that fun.

Since Dad doesn't mind being there a light caribineer tied to the safety line could be easily hooked over the flying line or unhooked allowing you to "fly" the kite with little impact on the experience.



Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: thief on June 11, 2012, 04:10 AM
Take note ahead of time if the line is tied at the end to the handle or nor else it could all become a moot point!


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ca Ike on June 11, 2012, 05:00 AM
Take note ahead of time if the line is tied at the end to the handle or nor else it could all become a moot point!
Hehe good point but luckily Prism is really good about doing that at the factory when hey fill the spools.

if its the same reel they use on other kites with the holes just tie the safety line through one of the holes

That sort of negates being able to release or reel in line easily. I think the original posters idea of the safety line slipping over the flying line gives more freedom. And kids want to run with a kite, a stake kills that fun.

Since Dad doesn't mind being there a light caribineer tied to the safety line could be easily hooked over the flying line or unhooked allowing you to "fly" the kite with little impact on the experience.


  AH how easy we forget what we did as kids with kites.  Well dad, plan on getting some exercise. Unless you have a couple hundred feet of safety line to reel out you will be running too :P  Most of all though enjoy the time with your son. :)


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: Ara Ararauna on June 11, 2012, 06:12 AM
I don't want to ruin fun, inventive spirit or easy access to flying. However, in engineering the simplest solution is always the best solution. And when dealing with safety this is primordial.
So...
wouldn't it be easier to fly somewhere else where the child does not need to be tethered, where no potential dangers are found close by and where father and son can enjoy flying together as opposed to looking one after the other?

Sometimes, getting on the car and driving 15min can make the trick and the whole result is much, much better.

Sorry if I'm sounding like a killjoy... it is only with my best of intentions...

Cheers,

N.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: boomertype on June 11, 2012, 07:33 AM
if its the same reel they use on other kites with the holes just tie the safety line through one of the holes

That sort of negates being able to release or reel in line easily. I think the original posters idea of the safety line slipping over the flying line gives more freedom. And kids want to run with a kite, a stake kills that fun.

Since Dad doesn't mind being there a light caribineer tied to the safety line could be easily hooked over the flying line or unhooked allowing you to "fly" the kite with little impact on the experience.


That's the same idea as my dog lease.  Carabiner or shackle with the leash to hold on to.
The kite line will slip thru it and not bind as line on line might do.


Title: Re: Young flier tips?
Post by: mikenchico on June 11, 2012, 08:05 AM
Thought I'd seen it somewhere    :)