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Title: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: kitegrrl on July 18, 2012, 07:29 PM
I'm considering of getting one of them...
How do they differ in flight characteristics?  indoor/outdoor?  strengths/weakness?  etc...?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: thief on July 19, 2012, 04:13 AM
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Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: glider on July 19, 2012, 09:19 AM
The Skate was a favorite of mine for years for indoor competition.  The glides are long, slow and beautiful.  It is possible to axle the Skate with gentle tension.  It is personal preference but I think more agressive, quicker tugs of the line disrupt the easy flight of the Skate.  I still pull out the Skate at now and then at competitions. WSIKF 2009 | OIIU | David Bradley | 5th Place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IudiSWu34bc#ws)


The Hybrid 200 is a bit more active.  The axles can be tighter.  It is a little quicker than the Skate but still glides great.  The shape and spar design seem to give it a stiffer feel to me.  It feels like I can be more agressive with the line and still preserve a decent flow to a performance.  These days, I find myself reaching for the Hybrid 200 more often than the Skate.

The Hybrid 130 is quite a bit smaller & quicker than the Skate or 200.  My experience is that it demands quicker and precisely timed jerks to get it going where you want it to go.  More like a fighter kite.  I've had mine for years and it has taken a while to warm up to it.  It is not the one I'd pick for a competition.

Dave
pdx


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: kitegrrl on July 19, 2012, 11:38 AM
$

Yep!  There's a significant difference in price for sure... which for me, always begs the question, "Why is that?".


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: kitegrrl on July 19, 2012, 11:44 AM
glider, thanks for the great description.  It matches the impression I got from watching videos of the two kites.


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: fidelio on July 19, 2012, 06:14 PM
the chiroptera is in between in price and definitely worth consideration. when weighted properly, you won't find a longer glide. the chiroptera isn't as easy to launch as a skate but more easy to turn once you do get soaring. it's the sweet spot for the gliding dollar, in my opinion.

not having flown the hq variants, my comparison to the 'long way home' probably isn't relevant, as it's four times the price of the skate or chiroptera.

if you click the windswept kites banner to the right, you can find the chiroptera in the will sturdy section.

whichever you choose, gliding can be great fun and rewarding in unexpected ways. i hope you enjoy it.



Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: PUZZLE on July 19, 2012, 06:43 PM
will sturdy needs to make a few more chiroptera's. this video is my first time flying it indoors, some nice slow glides
http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=6644.0 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=6644.0)
Chiroptera kite by will sturdy, flying indoors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1_itWc_80c#)


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: kitegrrl on July 21, 2012, 03:01 PM
Nice gliding on the Chiroptera!  I'll check it out.


Title: Re: Skate v.s. HQ Hybrid 130/200 ???
Post by: tonycarl60 on July 22, 2012, 01:43 AM
I love my Hybrid 200 and 240, my Skate is collecting dust. I also like my Iflite for indoors :) Chiropera sounds interesting.....