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Title: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on May 23, 2009, 09:25 AM
TNT by Alphakites, man I love the way this kite looks tricking. Anybody have one in the US?

Freestyle @ Berck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJ_tTyu-AU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiteclique.com%2F%3Fp%3D122&feature=player_embedded#lq-hq)

I want one....

Peace


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: ezme6 on May 23, 2009, 10:11 AM
Original name for a kite, but really nice flying ;D


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on May 27, 2009, 01:08 PM
Nice flying is right. It always makes me wonder when I watch a video how much is the flyer & how much the kite. I'm sure it's both in this case but I still want one ;)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: ezme6 on May 27, 2009, 02:20 PM
Nice flying is right. It always makes me wonder when I watch a video how much is the flyer & how much the kite. I'm sure it's both in this case but I still want one ;)

and also who is editing the video!

IMHO it is always the flyer, never the kite.

 Give any top flyer any kite and a little practice time and they can make the kite look like it is saving the world


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Gamelord on May 27, 2009, 02:37 PM
Just watch Mark Reed on a Prism Jazz and you will be humbled....at least I was.  ???


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Datenland on May 28, 2009, 05:11 PM
Further information at

www.alphakites.de (http://www.alphakites.de)

in case you don't know.

This is my favourite kite video! You can dowload it in full quality from the site from the TNT STD page. The pilot in the video is Matthias Haack, Masterclass flyer, the kite was developed by Heiko Eickenberg, maker of NRG, also available from the page above and the Tsunami. The TNT was especially developed for Trick's Party format and optimized for front-rolling tricks like Crazy Copter and Yofades. I've seen Heiko do three Yofades in a row... Very balanced, good precision, moderate pull.
Nice on the belly too. Soft to the touch, fast, some experience is good to have, it's really sophisticed.

Erik


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Geoffrey Platt on May 29, 2009, 02:24 PM
Man, can that guy fly. Wow! Great video. Hopefully one day, I'll be that good too :)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: winfre on May 16, 2010, 02:56 AM
Does any one have some news from this kite ?
How does it behave compare to a Cosmic TC ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fallikabi%23p%2Fu%2F5%2FFYwVK2k0Dr0&v=FYwVK2k0Dr0&feature=player_profilepage#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fallikabi%23p%2Fu%2F5%2FFYwVK2k0Dr0&v=FYwVK2k0Dr0&feature=player_profilepage#!)



Title: Re: TNT
Post by: cids on May 16, 2010, 07:27 AM
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in case you don't know.

This is my favourite kite video! You can dowload it in full quality from the site from the TNT STD page. The pilot in the video is Matthias Haack, Masterclass flyer, the kite was developed by Heiko Eickenberg, maker of NRG, also available from the page above and the Tsunami. The TNT was especially developed for Trick's Party format and optimized for front-rolling tricks like Crazy Copter and Yofades. I've seen Heiko do three Yofades in a row... Very balanced, good precision, moderate pull.
Nice on the belly too. Soft to the touch, fast, some experience is good to have, it's really sophisticed.

Erik

Have you flied one before ? What do you think about this kite ?
Is it a popular in Germany or even in Europe ?


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: zippy8 on May 16, 2010, 07:36 AM
Have you flied one before ?

The past participle of to fly is flown and not flied. Even Wikipedia (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fly#Verb) agrees on this point.

The best place to ask about the TNT will be Drachenforum where you are now a member. If you find anything out, please report back.

Mike.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: cids on May 16, 2010, 07:44 AM
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Have you flied one before ? What do you think about this kite ?
Is it a popular in Germany or even in Europe ?

New and correct version...
Have you flown one before ? What do you think about this kite ?
Is it a popular in Germany or even in Europe ?

It looks like the most popular kites in this side of the ocean are British Kites(Benson/JoE, Nivana or may be NSE, SD or Fearless only and nobody interested in any big German kite.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: tpatter on May 16, 2010, 08:35 AM
Maybe add 7 to your list of kites that seem on par with those listed here.  I am currently lusting over the UL (little bit of purple in it) that has recently become available - looks amazing.

There was a video sometime ago of someone flying the 7 very well - I couldn't find a link to it, perhaps someone will post it here.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: zippy8 on May 16, 2010, 09:03 AM
Maybe add 7 to your list.....

Oh goddess, don't provoke him any more  ;)

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There was a video sometime ago of someone flying the 7 very well - I couldn't find a link to it, perhaps someone will post it here.

Here. (http://badwolf.infotech.monash.edu.au/SOH/Sportkitedesign%20Seven%20-%20high%20quality.mov)

Mike.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Allen Carter on May 16, 2010, 09:26 AM
Nice flying is right. It always makes me wonder when I watch a video how much is the flyer & how much the kite.

It's all the flyer. Nobody takes a bad kite out and makes a video and posts it. A good video is all about who's flying.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: cids on May 16, 2010, 09:37 AM
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Maybe add 7 to your list of kites that seem on par with those listed here.  I am currently lusting over the UL (little bit of purple in it) that has recently become available - looks amazing.

Yes, I'm doing some researching regarding the 7 also but can't find much.



Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Mr.Derrick on May 16, 2010, 10:56 AM
The Video "TNT @ Dresden" (posted by Winfre) is flown by me. This track is taken on first flight in bad wind.
When i see this today i shame on it - sploppy style, no precision, ... .  Its not representative for "TNT-style".


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: winfre on May 16, 2010, 12:36 PM
Well it doesn't look soo bad...

from germany, do you  have any information to compare the TNT and the Cosmic TC ?

I'll try to get something on the drachen forum but I don't speek german...

Thanks

Niki


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Mr.Derrick on May 17, 2010, 04:16 AM
 
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do you  have any information to compare the TNT and the Cosmic TC ?


The time i had spend with CTC wasn`t enough to be able to compare them - beside the CTC was an vented version.

But i have found an flightreport at "Drachenforum". The guy how worte that had flown CTC an long time even at Trickspartys (Single an Pair) till he changed to TNT.
He refers to TNT std.

(text is translated by an Online translator)
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A sweet one hum resounded about the government quarter of Berlin.
When I noticed that it for a long time had started to dawn, I started to fly tricks (Tilt, circles and forms are able to do such fun ready )

This Kite needs an already very exact little hand, too much free way punished them immediately with DoubleAxl, 1 1/2 Backspins, to disorganised turns, one and a half

YoYos and all kinds of of other slovenliness.
Whether it lay now in the wind, or in my beating technology, after 10 minutes of Eingewöhnung we completely became CLOSE FRIENDS.

Cometé: Slowly rolling, primitively fast or accented stack stack... Stack stack. I have never seen such a thing. The 2nd impulse is small micro, the only minimum stop

it reaches around them obviously to let engage. Besides, the speed of the Kite displays is phenomenal. A small nirvana FX is quick, OK! But of the TNT (2.45m) so

brutally "snap" is able [surprised]

TAZ Machine: Quick, floating, aggressively or slowly controlled - thus easily a lot to me this trick never. If I have gone to trouble *cough*, are there so clarifies

flatspins with out come. Of the dragons picks up (right set-up provided) the nose like a Krystal FX.

YOYOs:without Backup stopper (for it the R-Sky so favoured by me claws) caught every Yoyo and this, with the wind. Multiple YOYOs comes compound from one-and two-pops

till the doctor comes. He wraps extensive than the Cosmic, but not really slow. If one gives him substantially input, one needs only 'nen short interimpulse and it

goes on immediately.
TwoPops properly give pleasure, there is not merely enough my fine motor activity this properly to timen.

YOYO-MultiLazy (back flip) etc.: are from the timing also differently than I of the CTC am used. What I am liked very positively, that not to release so much strength

needed around Lazys one apparently any more. The Floater is nicely controllable, Rollin Cascaden I could fly nicely fast or, however, with long road mattock and slow

releasing of the Lazys.

Fade: (again in comparison to the CTC) It needs to hold some feeling (or better wind than today) around him nice. So solid as the CTC he does not lie. For it things

went for me like Mutex and Backspin Cascade substantially easier from the hand.
Backspins also reach to me rising very easily.

Flic Flac:Hat a little lasted, but I is able to do him again [Biggrins]

YoFade: often overwinds [lol] 2 times held and when Backspin completes.

Slots and Flatspins: flat , fast, floating. Nose often showed so high as if I the wing would do catch, but nothing.

The precision and spurt remorse with I, even with shh. Wind grooves in the horizon pulled, were fantastic. No matter whether Push-Pull or minimum corners (only push)

nirvana Like. I had  a lot if  fun.

All together it is a Kite you cab fly extremely fast and hard , or,  also very softy and fluently can lead by combinations.
I find the Recover behaviour very unusual, Line catching are fast repaired like by mind hand.

Then at 19 o'clock we were quite wet both and the light of the central station did not reach anyhow for a long time any more to fly visually.

Who knows me, knows, I incline to exuberance actions and euphorisierten Postings with weird quintessence. Ick am in love freshly and not everything what here stands

is of the truth [wink]
I did not have to go to comparisons, but on my last 2 dragons all this simply is based what I am able to do. And with 'nem XT.s I cannot compare the TNT thus at all.

And because the separation of the Cosmic is still so fresh, it lies for me near a direct comparison to move.
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I'll try to get something on the drachen forum but I don't speek german...

If  you take one of the online translators, following URL is the TNT thread in "Drachenforum"
http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/showthread.php?id=43440 (http://www.drachenforum.net/forum/showthread.php?id=43440)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: winfre on May 17, 2010, 04:37 PM
Well done Derrick !

Thanks very much for your help :)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Mr.Derrick on May 18, 2010, 01:07 AM
a brand new, very fine, TNT movie.

TNT Std. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiURxFU-Jmo#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: obijuankenobe on May 18, 2010, 01:15 AM
Damn.  I said, 'Damn.' 

obi


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: zippy8 on May 18, 2010, 01:36 AM
And that is how you promote your new trick kite.  ???

Cynical beginning. Worth getting the FullHD version.

Mike.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on May 18, 2010, 04:34 AM
Thorsten Axmann can fly that's for sure.
And the AeroStuff version of the TNT is the same price as the L1 Gentleman.  :o

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: bryan beasley on May 18, 2010, 10:31 AM
And that is how you promote your new trick kite.  ???

+1

Sweet.

Bryan


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: jaybett on May 18, 2010, 01:51 PM
Very Nice!

Jay


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: ko on May 18, 2010, 02:48 PM
NICE!! thanx


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: HiFly on May 25, 2010, 04:20 AM
Thorsten Axmann can fly that's for sure.

Trickkite: Europale Cup 2010: Thorsten Axmann 1st place individual (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhDTKb6r0S0#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Europale Cup 2010 Stella Plage
1st Thorsten Axmann, Germany *TNT*
2nd Richard Debray, France *Nirvana SE*
3rd Laurent Marcy, France *Nirvana SE*
4th Christian Stahl, Germany *Cosmic TC*
5th Chris Goff, UK *Fury .85*


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on May 26, 2010, 06:08 AM
Thanks for posting that video.
Congrats to Thorsten on his win.  ;)

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: ko on May 26, 2010, 06:42 PM
again VERY NICE!!!! can someone please explain how that event works ?? to my uneducated eye it looks like freestyle.. are there certain requirements? besides being unbelievably good? thanx KO


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on May 28, 2010, 11:53 AM
TNT by Alphakites, man I love the way this kite looks tricking. Anybody have one in the US?
I want one....

Peace

James, next time you're down this way you're welcome to fly mine.  ;)

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on June 07, 2010, 12:06 PM
TNT by Alphakites, man I love the way this kite looks tricking. Anybody have one in the US?
I want one....

Peace

James, next time you're down this way you're welcome to fly mine.  ;)

Denny

Wow Denny, I had no idea you picked one up! What do you think of it? I'd love to fly it.

Did they cut the LEs down for shipping?


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: elchiquitin on June 08, 2010, 03:03 AM
Where for buying?


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: zippy8 on June 08, 2010, 04:40 AM
Where for buying?

Direct from the German manufacturers so far. They are called Alphakites and they Will Not be linked to, in accordance with forum policy (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?action=rules).

Mike.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: elchiquitin on June 08, 2010, 01:48 PM
Thanks Mike, I knew their web page, but I thought perhaps they would have any channel with shops.

Thank you. 


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on June 24, 2010, 06:17 PM
Wow Denny, I had no idea you picked one up! What do you think of it? I'd love to fly it.
Its a blast.  :D
Seriously. Its a really nice kite. Tracks well, does nice snappy corners, and is equally good at tricks, both old school and new. And the build quality is superb.

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Did they cut the LEs down for shipping?
I ordered the comp frame. It comes with a 2 piece LE.  ;)

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Mr.Derrick on June 28, 2010, 11:37 PM
I ordered the comp frame. It comes with a 2 piece LE.  ;)

Only comp frame or completely comp ?
If its an real comp.... whats about the tail weight, are there 2 euro-cent added ?  If not, you can try the comp with + 4 gram (0,12-0,15 oz).


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on June 29, 2010, 09:17 PM
Only comp frame or completely comp ?
If its an real comp.... whats about the tail weight, are there 2 euro-cent added ?  If not, you can try the comp with + 4 gram (0,12-0,15 oz).
Its the comp version. No 2 euro cents though. I'll have to pull the tail weight and see what it weighs.  ;)

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: dragonfly on September 30, 2010, 02:12 AM
No comment ...  :D



TNT Sonderedition "Hair-X"i (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14mp--esSU#ws)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dave Gibson on October 13, 2010, 08:02 PM
 :D :D :D :D  thats funy dragonfly


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on October 30, 2010, 11:30 PM
Denny, I have a meeting in Oakland on 11-13. Maybe the next day when I drive home we can get together and fly a bit. I still have an itch to fly a TNT bad. I get my leaders all in a knot just thinking about it :D


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on October 31, 2010, 06:25 AM
Denny, I have a meeting in Oakland on 11-13. Maybe the next day when I drive home we can get together and fly a bit. I still have an itch to fly a TNT bad. I get my leaders all in a knot just thinking about it :D

I've got a couple you're more than welcome to give a toss. With any luck my TNT Zero will be here by then.
I'll send you a PM. There are some places between Oakland and here that are much better flying than up here.  ;)

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: dragonfly on November 12, 2010, 12:55 PM
Was doing my coincide-exactly-when-superimposed-thingy (http://fracturedaxel.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9541&p=109035) again and guess what? The Ophidion (http://www.ahtechnology.de/kitepage/) and Black Pearl (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=3870.0) are close in form to the TNT - now there's an alternative [or two] to crow's feet.  :D

BTW got all three - so I better shut up! :-X


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: tpatter on November 12, 2010, 02:31 PM
I'm dying to try one of these.

The bridle attachment seems interesting to me - it connects on the LS.  I wonder (assume actually) that this has something to do with how well this kite seems to taz and flat-spin in general.

It seems to have some tricky moves - I wonder how well it handles higher (mid teens) winds.

-Tom


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: dragonfly on November 12, 2010, 03:37 PM
The bridle attachment seems interesting to me - it connects on the LS.  I wonder (assume actually) that this has something to do with how well this kite seems to taz and flat-spin in general.

Only the comp version has that special bridle attachment...


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: lasapcheong on November 12, 2010, 07:44 PM

It seems to have some tricky moves - I wonder how well it handles higher (mid teens) winds.


I had mine for a go in pretty high wind 10 - 15 mph-ish and the frame feels solid, not much wobbling.

However I broke the ULE trying to fly around in a wrapped yoyo. The thing about the TNT STD Comp is that for a standard kite, it has relatively weak LE rods of 3PTs. I'd think that rules out stuff like wrapped yoyo flights, nuclear tip stabs and stuff that requires heavy stress on the LEs.

-Darryl


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on November 14, 2010, 11:59 PM
I flew the TNT UL and the std comp today. They don't sit as deep in the Turtle as I thought they would but still sit back well enough that they stay on their back and don't pop out unexpectedly. Super easy to Lazy and lazy cascades are very (very) easy. 540, JL, BS, slots were all there, no problem. I had some trouble with the Taz but that was just me not having the correct timing I'm sure. 2 pop roll ups are stupid easy. Precision was decent.

The UL rolls up fine but a little slower compared to how fast it does other tricks than I was expecting.  Nice Comete on the UL but on the std I would over do the inputs and end up in a Turtle a lot more.

They feel less edgy than they look, that sounds weird but that's how they feel to me. I had that same feeling when I first flew the X-Masque although the TNT is very different than that kite.

The UL was my favorite and I tricked it well. By the time I flew the comp the wind had picked up a lot. I missed many more tricks with it than the ul too but again, the wind was getting strong.

James


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Dolphinboy on November 15, 2010, 07:23 AM
I didn't say it above but I really like them and after about 15 seconds on the UL I was hollering to Denny that I really like the kite :)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Kabel on April 29, 2012, 02:02 PM
(http://kabelton.toningenieur.info/Kites/TNT1.jpg)

(http://kabelton.toningenieur.info/Kites/TNT2.jpg)

(http://kabelton.toningenieur.info/Kites/TNT3.jpg)

(http://kabelton.toningenieur.info/Kites/Farbkreis_Itten_1961.jpg)

While is was walking down the rails a man shouted from behind:
"If I see one naked girl, I'll call the police!"  :D

I think a good spot for photography... :mrgreen:

best
gerald

btw.: TNT Std. Comp SS #279 / TNT Zero #283


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: zippy8 on April 29, 2012, 02:09 PM
At the risk of repeating myself.....

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XWu-ZVouoyY/T52tQwa2qRI/AAAAAAAAI9Q/V0Yzrt0TfOU/s800/tumblr_lgbj6dMOzl1qf8yek.gif)

Mike.


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: Kabel on April 29, 2012, 02:10 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: DWayne on April 29, 2012, 02:14 PM
Pretty cool. One kite of primary colors and one of secondary colors.

Denny


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: chilese on April 29, 2012, 03:17 PM
I'm reminded of carrots on the orange one.  ???


Title: Re: TNT
Post by: harveystubbs on April 29, 2012, 03:45 PM
Very Drole .... It doesn't count as one of your 5 fruit and veg a day though.