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Title: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: appleb on September 17, 2012, 08:19 AM
I have a bunch of SLK's I want to store and transport together. I'm looking at the HQ 55" kite bag, but I can't find any pictures of the interior.  Does it roll out flat for easy identification and access to each kite?

Or any other recommendations for a decent kite bag?

So far my largest kite is only 40" disassembled, so I don't need anything too massive.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: thief on September 17, 2012, 08:26 AM
i like tube shaped bags for single lines....not roll up bags....the roll up bags are good for holding each kite individually - it is easy to roll out the bag to see which kite is which....but that increases the weight due to the extra fabric to make the pockets....also i have a lot more single like kites in a given bag (I think i have 5 long kite bags full of single lines)...some single line kite bags are shorter and they might disappear into a roll up bag pocket....

How many kites are you talking about??? are there a bunch that are super long?

for a heavy duty bag I would grab a MLD bag (you will have to google that) they come in a couple of lengths and variety of pocket numbers and placements....bombproof cordura.......
But this HQ bag is a great deal as well, and is from the forum host: http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=48 (http://www.chicokites.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=48)

my favorite kite bag:
The HQ Padded Deluxe Travel Bag...
https://picasaweb.google.com/110977665158917743177/HQBag (https://picasaweb.google.com/110977665158917743177/HQBag)
you can read about it here: http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=450.0 (http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=450.0)
these bags started 10 years ago at ~90$...and then ended up around 135$.....so worth it though...i would love to get a third one if i could....


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Hadge on September 17, 2012, 08:58 AM
Fishing rod bags can make very good and cheap kite bags!

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMK52gSxFGLjVxm15og0LXqBkuHOQeGXu5zvoZWC0MlzU8zn8-0AtkJsAysg)

This is mine, 2 big pockets on the outside for lines/ bits& pieces. 3 seperate sections inside for UL's/ standards/ vented kites. On the other side a long pocket for spare spars and a small pocket for my MP3 player! Cost around 12 ($18?) 3 years ago and still going strong. Ok provided your kites are no longer than 58".


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: tcope on September 17, 2012, 10:10 AM
As mentioned, the HQ bad does not roll out. I've not used it but many fliers like it a lot (who do I think of Forrest Gump when I say that).

I like a roll up bag for multi line kites but a regular bag for SLK. It's a little odd now that I think about it but I suppose it's becase I'll always have a lot more SLK's then multi line. The non-roll up bags are going to store more kites in the same amount of room and are less expensive.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: duncan on September 17, 2012, 10:25 AM
Perhaps I'm just a cheapskate, but I use ski bags - I paid 5 for one on ebay not so long ago. I can adjust the length using straps on the outside. Doesn't look so cool but it works :)


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Tmadz on September 17, 2012, 01:17 PM
Does anyone have concerns about using oversize bags? I don't have enough stunt kites for a roll up bag and lines so I am using a old US air force canvas duffel bag for all my kites left partially open and a small gym bag for the odds and ends like line sets, yo-yo winders, laundry stakes, etc. I have kites of all lengths, some sticking out the end. I worry sometimes about over long SLK's or my tensioned LE's getting accidentally broken.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: thief on September 17, 2012, 01:31 PM
oversized meaning??? that the bag is empty at one and flopped over?
I have had bags like that at times and the kites lived just fine in it...

how do you store your bag at home? standing on end? lying on the floor/shelf?
I have been storing my bags lying down on a shelf system and that works fine...they are all supported without worry of an end getting broken...
you might run into more potential problems if you are leaving your bag standing up on end as the bag might fall....

the instance where i have seen more LEs get broken than any other:
CAR DOORS......see a kite with the LE broken between 2-8" up from the tip symmetrical usually has been caught in the tailgate door/side door....happens....


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: tpatter on September 17, 2012, 01:40 PM

My favorite bags are the
- Vector bag.  Folks at festivals are always coming up and checking this sweet bag out.  I particularly like that it has handles on both ends so that you can hang it from a hook in the garage for easy storage.  This bag can likely hold every kite you've got (I stuff over 20 with extra spars, lines, tols, etc into it).

- Lam makes a sweet bag that I use for trips to the field.  It still holds a few sets but it lighter and easier to carry around.  He has both a rollup as well as a bag version.

- the HQ bag is great for taking 3-4 kites out with you and a line set or 2.  I have the smaller one.  It's super cheap - I got mine from Steve.



Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Krijn on September 17, 2012, 01:53 PM
i love my vectorbag: really nice

plenty of room for linesets, suncream, camera, tripod, ...

(http://i48.tinypic.com/10zphjc.jpg)


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Smeagol on September 17, 2012, 02:11 PM
+1 on the Vector Bag, I love mine.  Has lots of nice features.  $90+ but worth it.  Mine is crammed right now,  I need a 2nd one.  :o


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Tmadz on September 17, 2012, 02:38 PM
oversized meaning??? that the bag is empty at one and flopped over?
I have had bags like that at times and the kites lived just fine in it...

how do you store your bag at home? standing on end? lying on the floor/shelf?
I have been storing my bags lying down on a shelf system and that works fine...they are all supported without worry of an end getting broken...
you might run into more potential problems if you are leaving your bag standing up on end as the bag might fall....

the instance where i have seen more LEs get broken than any other:
CAR DOORS......see a kite with the LE broken between 2-8" up from the tip symmetrical usually has been caught in the tailgate door/side door....happens....

Rob, it's an old school canvas military duffel bag. Plenty wide for fitting lots of kites. I have the kites sticking out of the top. I lay it flat on a shelf in the garage right now. When it gets cold I'll store it in the heated basement. I have a minivan which allows me to lay it down for transport. My only concern right now, I guess, is the long SLK's or LE's sticking out too far. I'm used to throwing it over my shoulder and I'll catch them on the back hatch sometimes when I go to close it. I was wondering if stuffing kites (each in it's own sleeve) in and out of the duffel might cause problems compared to storing them in separate compartments in a nice roll-up or zipper bag. I caryy my SLK's, Gomberg sled and Pyro and stunt kites in the same bag. I tend to catch the electric slim spine because it's the longest and a pain to disassemble. Robert built the sleeve long enough to keep the spine together.

Are Vector bags readily available?
Todd


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Gamelord on September 17, 2012, 03:08 PM
We have sold a ton of Vector bags.  They are totally awesome.  Plenty of storage and has some very nice padding - but not overly heavy.

For the price I feel it is the best bag on the market.  I personally use the Flying Wings bag because I got it before we got the Vector's in stock.  I would probably prefer the Vector because of the brighter colors - but the Flying Wings bag is super nice too and has some excellent storage and features.



Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Wayner on September 17, 2012, 07:14 PM
Does anyone have concerns about using oversize bags? I don't have enough stunt kites for a roll up bag and lines so I am using a old US air force canvas duffel bag for all my kites left partially open and a small gym bag for the odds and ends like line sets, yo-yo winders, laundry stakes, etc. I have kites of all lengths, some sticking out the end. I worry sometimes about over long SLK's or my tensioned LE's getting accidentally broken.

Sounds like you are ready for a real bag.  :D  :D

+1 on the vector bag. I also like the strap at the end to hang vertical.

Use Prisim roll up bag for my old school kites (totl etc) these kites have longer LE and don't fit in the vector or flying wings bag.

Use a ski bag. for my SLK, Cheap and long. Carry the line in a duffle bag. single line winder would not fit well in a stunt kite bag.

Another option HQ has a bag for about 6 kites. Lower cost ;D


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Tmadz on September 18, 2012, 05:13 AM
Thanks gang. I will look into the Vector bags.

If you can find anyone throwing skis away out here you are a dedicated garbage picker because I bet that happens once in a blue moon. There is a ski skop across the street from my business though. I don't know why it's still open, but it must be the only ski shop in northern Illinois.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: appleb on September 18, 2012, 07:01 AM
Do the HQ or Vector bags have individual compartments for each kite, something like a file folder? Or do you have to have to wrap each kite+spars individually before putting them in the bag so the spars don't get mixed up?  I can't tell from the pics.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Flying Fish on September 18, 2012, 07:18 AM
Quote
Do the HQ or Vector bags have individual compartments for each kite


No, they don't. Both have one large 'hold' for the kites. The Vector bag does have many pockets for lines etc, but kites and spars are all together in one space.

Among our kite bags are some HQ bags, a ski bag, a Vector bag, and a Prism roll-up bag, each for a specific set of kites. For our team kites, we use these (http://flyingfishkites.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/team-bags.html). They're not cheap (and for someone based in the US probably too expensive if shipping and import charges are taken into account), but they really are perfect for 10+ full-size kites with all the bits and bobs you need for team-flying.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: KiteVoice on September 18, 2012, 01:06 PM
I  drive a Civic Hybrid. That's relevant, because the batteries for the electric motor are against the back of the back seat and therefore, no part of the back seat folds down to accommodate long cargo. As a result, I break down the leading edges of my sport kites, so they load easily in the Civic's trunk. I've been looking at the bags recommended here and all were pretty long. Is there a good bag for multiple sport kites that's only 48" or so long?

Also, for those of you who put multiple sport kites in a a single-compartment bag, do you put each kites in its own sleeve? If not, do you use a rubber band or something to keep each kite "wrapped up" while it's in the bag?


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: thief on September 18, 2012, 01:23 PM
I  drive a Civic Hybrid. That's relevant, because the batteries for the electric motor are against the back of the back seat and therefore, no part of the back seat folds down to accommodate long cargo. As a result, I break down the leading edges of my sport kites, so they load easily in the Civic's trunk. I've been looking at the bags recommended here and all were pretty long. Is there a good bag for multiple sport kites that's only 48" or so long?
MLD has a very durable cordura 48" bag that might be perfect...
Also, for those of you who put multiple sport kites in a a single-compartment bag, do you put each kites in its own sleeve? If not, do you use a rubber band or something to keep each kite "wrapped up" while it's in the bag?
as long as each kite is in its sleeve that is good enough for me.....the sleeve closes at one end? even so there are only a few pieces to fall out and it is hard for them to fall out when in a bigger bag..


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Desertflier on September 18, 2012, 01:30 PM
ITW makes a nice 48" Kite Bag.  ;)


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: red sweater on September 18, 2012, 05:47 PM
ITW makes a nice 48" Kite Bag.  ;)

Seconded.
I have a roomier sedan, but still can't quite fit the full length of an assembled leading edge in the trunk. I could lay the back seat down, but then I have to take the car seat out...so I use ITW's 48" bag. I'm very pleased with it. It can fit at least a handful of kites in their sleeves. But I don't think I could fit 10 in there, as the copy text says, unless I removed the sleeves. Velcro strips are probably a lot better than rubber bands.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: KiteVoice on September 18, 2012, 05:49 PM
Thanks. That ITW 48" bag looks like it'll fit the bill and it's a fair price, too!


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: fidelio on September 18, 2012, 05:58 PM
Unless they've recently changed them, the ITW made bags have a few design issues. On the pocket the zipper has to go around a square corner so zipping/unzipping is always a 2 handed affair. Also where the shoulder strap attaches to the bag its unreinforced, so after a little while, it rips the material for the bag and leaves a hole.

The MLD bags have neither of these problems.


Title: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: madhabitz on September 18, 2012, 06:16 PM
I have three of the ITW bags and love them. I've had one for over a year and a half and it's seen lots of use. Nifty bags these.

Check with Steve Hall- I think he has them.... Or can get them.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: KiteVoice on September 18, 2012, 07:12 PM
My old Kitemobile looked like an explosion at a kite store.  ::)

                                 (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing024.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Kantaxel on September 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
For my money the RSky bag pretty much fits the bill for everything but the largest full length kites,  (Prophecy, Total E's and  TrickTails)  Not sure if they are still being made, but, if they are, they pretty much have everything listed in this thread and will definitely fit 10 kites, your cell phone, wallet, and at least ten linesets. Don't leave home without one............or two. ::) ::)  ???

Jim


Title: Re: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: DD on September 19, 2012, 06:18 AM
For my money the RSky bag pretty much fits the bill for everything but the largest full length kites,  (Prophecy, Total E's and  TrickTails)  Not sure if they are still being made, but, if they are, they pretty much have everything listed in this thread and will definitely fit 10 kites, your cell phone, wallet, and at least ten linesets. Don't leave home without one............or two. ::) ::)  ???

Jim
+1 love my r sky bag


Title: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: madhabitz on September 19, 2012, 07:53 AM
Okay then, a lot of you love your R-Sky bags...... but where can you get them? Are they even made anymore? Google wasn't able to help.


Title: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: appleb on September 19, 2012, 09:06 AM
Okay then, a lot of you love your R-Sky bags...... but where can you get them? Are they even made anymore? Google wasn't able to help.

Yeah I tried looking for the R-Sky bags but it looks like they only made one production run of this, back around 2009.


Title: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: DD on September 19, 2012, 10:01 AM
Okay then, a lot of you love your R-Sky bags...... but where can you get them? Are they even made anymore? Google wasn't able to help.

I got mine from Steve when he put in a big order a long time back. Yo may be able to get them directly from Rsky still.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: thief on September 19, 2012, 10:13 AM
Okay then, a lot of you love your R-Sky bags...... but where can you get them? Are they even made anymore? Google wasn't able to help.

I got mine from Steve when he put in a big order a long time back. Yo may be able to get them directly from Rsky still.


i do not see the bag listed on their site anymore..going to guess that they are long gone...


Title: Re: Re: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: madhabitz on September 19, 2012, 10:30 AM
i do not see the bag listed on their site anymore..going to guess that they are long gone...
I think you're right.  :'(


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: DD on September 19, 2012, 12:20 PM
Sorry to hear the rsky bags arent around anymore. I also have a prism rollup bag and had a hq bag. I think if i had to get another it maybe a vector bag or sewing my own


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: madhabitz on September 19, 2012, 12:27 PM
Sorry to hear the rsky bags arent around anymore. I also have a prism rollup bag and had a hq bag. I think if i had to get another it maybe a vector bag or sewing my own
I copied a friend and got a Prism rollup bag too. I am totally surprised by how much I like this thing for my dual line kites-- everything is there and it's quick into/out of the car and onto the field. No muss no fuss and is always ready.

Now for single lines that's another story. It's like a new baby-- the bags and bags of stuff you have to take with you will fill the car up and you need a cart to get it all to the field.


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: Wayner on September 19, 2012, 08:25 PM
got a Prism rollup bag too. I am totally surprised by how much I like this thing for my dual line kites-- everything is there and it's quick into/out of the car and onto the field. No muss no fuss and is always ready.

+1  :)

Now for single lines that's another story. It's like a new baby-- the bags and bags of stuff you have to take with you will fill the car up and you need a cart to get it all to the field.

Yep so true  :-[


Title: Re: Kite bag/storage recommendation?
Post by: PUZZLE on September 19, 2012, 10:33 PM
+1 prism large roll up, too bad a wind of change sold out of them ;( hard to find