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Post by: Norm Pulliam on March 26, 2013, 07:16 PM
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Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: red sweater on March 27, 2013, 06:23 AM
What is this "sand crab" thing?

Also, I'd welcome any bridle suggestions.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/347/473/eab.jpg)


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: Hadge on March 27, 2013, 07:29 AM
I've nearly bought one of these twice but then changed my mind.  There is a fair bit of chat about them on some of the German sites. They are an older model hence why they seem to be very good at the 'Old School' floaty/spinny stuff rather than JLs & more modern pitchy stuff.

Probably best to enjoy them for what they do well, that said, if I was going to try tweeking one I'd probably start with the frame.  The all 4mm frame does look a bit floppy, especially the spine and lower spreaders. If I was going to do something it would be to replace these with something a bit stiffer - maybe P90 or P100 - this would also add a little weight which might give a bit more enertia which might make JL's a bit easier. I did something similar with my Shadow (P300 spine) to good effect. However it might have the effect of loosing the very low wind performance. :-\

Interestingly the Germans seem to rate the Tattoo Zero ( Spacekites/HQ) quite highly as an alternative 0-5 mph kite ( missed one of those on Ebay a couple of months back  :( )


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: adx1592 on March 28, 2013, 07:19 AM
BMK Moonie Mamba UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjOO4fVSSCU#ws)

@ 1:43?
If so we don't know what that 'is' either, JonT always does it in his ballets but just kinda calls it a slide, haha. Can't really keep both tips on the grass in this case, but it works on ice haha. 'That what you're talking about (kind of)?


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: DD on March 28, 2013, 11:21 AM
if you can do tip stand with a breeze with any force it coils down like a spring and pops backup because the frame is so 'noodly'
I have thought of just switching the spine out to something heavier to give me more mass but never got to it.
My breeze is my noob lite wind flier and no body has managed to break it yet.

Looking forward to your bridle measurements!


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: adx1592 on March 28, 2013, 07:03 PM
Never actually seen a UFO in flight, do you have more vid?


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: chilese on March 29, 2013, 01:11 AM
Found a Breeze photo showing the unusually long and intricate bridle:

I believe Andy Wardley calls this the "Trihedral Active Bridle"
http://wardley.org/kites/bridle/trihedral.html (http://wardley.org/kites/bridle/trihedral.html)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E9I5uUat0tg/S2QOeNGugTI/AAAAAAAAIsI/r-chWHF-I38/s800/269%2520breeze.jpg) (https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2004Kites#5432482962592399666)


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: thief on March 29, 2013, 06:19 AM
personally i think that the breeze was NOTHING like a Geenie or Feather......which both rock ;)


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: Hadge on March 29, 2013, 07:18 AM
Interestingly, if you compare the specs for the original Breeze and the 'Retroline' Breeze on the HQ sevice Site, it appears that the 'New' Breeze has  different bridle specs and is apparently nearly 3oz lighter than the old one?  :-\

Old Breeze (http://www.invento-hq.com/supportkites_e.php?art=Breeze)

New Breeze (http://www.invento-hq.com/supportkites_e.php?art=Breeze_Retro_Line)


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: thief on March 29, 2013, 09:35 AM
oh, no worries, I know that the Breeze was a successful seller when it was first brought out, but there was also not very many other UL kites at that price point....we sold a lot of them....i know that there was a few stacks of them i built....hmm......
but to compare it against the feather or the geenie...both of those are wholly different designs.....much higher aspect kites!



Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: chilese on March 29, 2013, 09:59 AM
Bridle shots of Geenie and Feather.

Geenie:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IK4m3EkxluA/S2QFX_wV7fI/AAAAAAAAIZY/j8fB-g4OPzY/s800/129%2520geenie%2520charly.jpg) (https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2004Kites#5432472960324988402)

Feather:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gZ-phqLVebg/S2kMWafh0NI/AAAAAAAANJ8/enVzEGOQkD0/s800/03%2520feather%252024.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2003Kites#5433888004607430866)


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: thief on March 29, 2013, 10:08 AM
love the Geenie....mine has a Curtiss Mitchell (designer of the kite) hand tied bridle.....i am afraid to touch it!


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: adx1592 on March 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
Both the Geenie and the Feather were 2 of my favorite SUL kites in the 90s, next to the NikNak and the PDSUL. Man oh man do I miss those kites.


Title: Re: HQ Breeze Bridle & Other Mods
Post by: thief on March 29, 2013, 06:25 PM
Both the Geenie and the Feather were 2 of my favorite SUL kites in the 90s, next to the NikNak and the PDSUL. Man oh man do I miss those kites.
Oh...I know where there is a pristine feather for sale....