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 31 
 on: January 30, 2015, 11:23 PM 
Started by sugarbaker - Last post by sugarbaker
Well,  it finally came down to me wanting a monster more than the video equipment I intended to acquire to film the construction.  Originally my thoughts were that I would document the entire build with dialogue and close ups of film.  That being said, I was never happy with the level of production I was able to achieve and so I have thrown in the towel on this particular project. 

The result is a fine kite (minus an upper spreader right now, as I find I'm out of 5mm carbon... which is now on order).  I can add this to the stack of kites I've built but yet to fly!

Some notes on the design:
Should you build this kite, beware the mylar panels.  If your stitches are too close together, it will just tear a hole in the mylar sections.
The frame of this kite is great... the lower spreaders, upper leading edges and lower leading edges can all be cut to 73mm.  I set a stop block on my DIY spar cutter and just cut away (6 spars all the same length)
3pt bridle is just the right dimension so that a keeper line is not needed to prevent tail wraps. 
Hopefully "imitation" really is the higher form of flattery.  If you look close at the kites I build, you'll see the clear influences of my favorite builders (Paul Shirey, Ken McNeill, Lam Hoac, to name a few).

Frame is:
3pt leading edges
5pt black diamond lower spreaders
5pt spine
5mm upper spreader (on order)
approx 12 grams weight in the tail
leech line



And more related to another thread (the "which part of kite making do you like the least" thread), here is a shot of the nose.  The nose, being close to the last thing I do on the sail, always presents one last step for me to mess up!  This nose has a mylar sail re-enforcement, along with a dacron pocket in the rear for the spine.  The dacron pocket is lined with 'moonie tape', as i find this helps the spine slide in easily and keeps the dacron from splitting over time. 


 32 
 on: January 30, 2015, 08:32 PM 
Started by chilese - Last post by Tim P.
Tricking is more for the flyer. It doesn't lend itself well to attracting the uninitiated. The ones that can mainly appreciate the skills involved in tricking are other kite flyers, who have a sense of what is required. Ours is a visual sport, for onlookers. The bigger and more elegant the visual, the better for spectators. Way back in '86 when I was flying for Kitty Hawk Kites, the ones that ALWAYS drew the appreciative crowds was a stack of Peter Powells with the long tube tails. The Hawaiians were loud and buzzy and precise. Folks would stop and watch for a few minutes and move on. The Flexifoil stacks would drag us up the dunes at Jockey's Ridge. They'd scare off the older folks and attract the younger, until they learned how much they cost. The Peter Powell stacks and tails never failed to draw a crowd of all ages. Folks would just stare, mesmerized. They were a HUGE visual, filling the sky with their graceful, easy to follow patterns. Everyone could follow along, understand and appreciate.

If you're looking to draw a crowd, get some appreciative onlookers and generate interest, then big colorful stacks of kites with tails are the ticket.

But sometimes you just got to fly for yourself and not care what anyone else thinks. Which is most of the time for me.  Grin

 33 
 on: January 30, 2015, 05:07 PM 
Started by bplant - Last post by tcope
Agree with both of those. I once made an outdoor rev without the screen and it did not fly smoothly.

 34 
 on: January 30, 2015, 03:50 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by cerfvoliste
I always sleeve. I have never had any trouble using 100 lb bridle line with the core pulled out for sleeving. It is a nice right fit even on 50 lb line.
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 35 
 on: January 30, 2015, 03:47 PM 
Started by bplant - Last post by thief
I had always heard it was to help flatten the air flowing over the LE..

 36 
 on: January 30, 2015, 03:06 PM 
Started by chilese - Last post by Boats13
Interesting thread....

I get nice comments all the time, but I find that, except for the most interested, they watch perhaps 5 minutes and move on.

Most asked questions:
- how long has it taken you to be able to do that?






This. Or at least these two items.
They look for a few then move on.

And when they ask or if I let them try they become frustrated, and when you tell them theres a learning curve and that it can take awhile they become much less interested. It seems for a lot of people, particularly the younger crowd, they want instant gratification. They dont want to take the time to learn.

And the inconsistent winds here in St. Louis dont help.


The young gamers want a RESET button. Kites don't re-spawn in mid-air, pointed up!!!

 37 
 on: January 30, 2015, 02:53 PM 
Started by chilese - Last post by Palmahnic
I agree with some of you.
I prefer to fly my kite on my own, alone with some music in my ears. Sure I smile too when someone looks up to see where that roaring sound is coming from, and today when two fellows came up to ask for a few spins, I was happy to teach them of the little I know. But for me, at least, it's not a spectator's sport/hobby.
Yes, Mr. Chilese, I agree that for the sake of all of us we need more of us. I just think that pulling a nicely colored tail while doing figure eights is not necessarily going to do the trick (pun intended) anymore. I didn't get started that way. I got hooked after catching a Dodd Gross clip on YouTube, thinking 'hey, I can practice and do that too'.

In these modern times, if you want to spread an idea, you make a video and share it on Facebook or instegram, for the world to see. And if they're interested, they meet you on the field.

That's just my 2 cents, of my very (!) Limited kite experience.

 38 
 on: January 30, 2015, 01:49 PM 
Started by Palmahnic - Last post by Gamelord
Kites & fun things is a great shop and good friends.

If you can't get with them, give us a call and we can get you taken care of as well.

www.awindofchange.com

 39 
 on: January 30, 2015, 01:47 PM 
Started by bplant - Last post by Gamelord
Not sure what the actual function is, but it has been said that it helps reverse flying and makes the kite more stable.

 40 
 on: January 30, 2015, 01:43 PM 
Started by chilese - Last post by coop
Interesting thread....

I get nice comments all the time, but I find that, except for the most interested, they watch perhaps 5 minutes and move on.

Most asked questions:
- how long has it taken you to be able to do that?






This. Or at least these two items.
They look for a few then move on.

And when they ask or if I let them try they become frustrated, and when you tell them theres a learning curve and that it can take awhile they become much less interested. It seems for a lot of people, particularly the younger crowd, they want instant gratification. They dont want to take the time to learn.

And the inconsistent winds here in St. Louis dont help.

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