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 31 
 on: Today at 06:30 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by Captainbob
I'm also surprised by the general lack of activity on kiting forums.  Recently rejoined a model airplane forum and it get dozens of post daily.  I'd hazard that the population of flyers in each activity is comparable.

One difference may be that every airplane flyer must build their own models which can take hundreds of hours each to build and finish. This makes airplane flyers highly vested in their activity. Of course some kiters are just as fanatical, just not as a rule...

The active forums also seem to do a better job calling out the trolls and bullies which mess up a forum for all just to entertain a few.

Would be nice if the AKA forum was used more frequently , but then again, some of the other kiting forums are pretty quiet too. I guess the lack of activity on the Prism forum, is the main reason they finally just shut it down. Seems people like to lurk, but very few like to join or post for some reason. In my experience, when that happens, people eventually stop visiting the forum due to the inactivity, and I have seen a couple of forums just close down because of it. I'm very surprised at the lack of activity on the Rev forum for instance, which is a very nice and well run forum, since Revs seem to be so popular.

I posted this topic on another forum about 5 months ago, but nobody agreed, which was surprising.

As of a couple of minutes ago, I checked 3 kiting forums:

1.  On the first forum 1 user, 17 guests
2.  On the second forum  1 user   19 guests
3.  On the third forum, which is the most active, this one  8 users  58 guests.

I was on another very large forum years ago, that experienced the same issue, of most people not registering, never posting, just lurking which contributed nothing to the traffic on the forum. It costs a great deal of money to run a forum properly, pay for bandwidth, get moderators that are good, etc. etc. When only about 5-20% of the visitors to the forum contribute to the activity of the forum, the visitor traffic starts to drop. Nobody wants to visit a forum every day, to read the same posts that were there the day, and the week before. Eventually the forum is in danger of folding, which is what was happening to this forum I am discussing. The forum management decided to make membership mandatory. It was free, but unless you were a registered member, you couldn't browse the forum. The end result was, they got a huge number of visitors that suddenly became members, and activity on the forum increased dramatically.  The few people that didn't want to bother registering, probably weren't that interested anyway, so losing them was not much of an issue.

On another forum that I was on, the activity gradually dropped, year after year, and eventually it got to the point where the forum admins, decided that it no longer was a viable forum, and just closed it down. Many people were upset when that happened, but my feeling was that the zero effort they put into keeping the forum active, got a very predictable result.

By the way, I have been active in many forums for more years than I care to admit, and also a moderator on two of them, so I have seen this issue many times. Just my 2 cents.

 32 
 on: Today at 06:19 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by Allen Carter
I vaguely remember there used to be webmaster information, and possibly a contact email.  I can't find that anymore.  Does anyone know?  Does anyone from the web team or the AKA leadership check this forum? 

From the list of volunteers on the Leadership page:

Internet Presence: John Gillespie <ipc@aka.kite.org>

 33 
 on: Today at 06:14 AM 
Started by twhite510 - Last post by twhite510
Jon
That is good info as to not being a lot of fliers. Look forward to flying with you soon. 

 Norm. How often do you get to go fly at Oxnard?

 34 
 on: Today at 06:05 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by stapp59
I'm also surprised by the general lack of activity on kiting forums.  Recently rejoined a model airplane forum and it get dozens of post daily.  I'd hazard that the population of flyers in each activity is comparable.

One difference may be that every airplane flyer must build their own models which can take hundreds of hours each to build and finish. This makes airplane flyers highly vested in their activity. Of course some kiters are just as fanatical, just not as a rule...

The active forums also seem to do a better job calling out the trolls and bullies which mess up a forum for all just to entertain a few.

Would be nice if the AKA forum was used more frequently , but then again, some of the other kiting forums are pretty quiet too. I guess the lack of activity on the Prism forum, is the main reason they finally just shut it down. Seems people like to lurk, but very few like to join or post for some reason. In my experience, when that happens, people eventually stop visiting the forum due to the inactivity, and I have seen a couple of forums just close down because of it. I'm very surprised at the lack of activity on the Rev forum for instance, which is a very nice and well run forum, since Revs seem to be so popular.

 35 
 on: Today at 05:09 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by Captainbob
Would be nice if the AKA forum was used more frequently , but then again, some of the other kiting forums are pretty quiet too. I guess the lack of activity on the Prism forum, is the main reason they finally just shut it down. Seems people like to lurk, but very few like to join or post for some reason. In my experience, when that happens, people eventually stop visiting the forum due to the inactivity, and I have seen a couple of forums just close down because of it. I'm very surprised at the lack of activity on the Rev forum for instance, which is a very nice and well run forum, since Revs seem to be so popular.

 36 
 on: Today at 05:06 AM 
Started by Jorge Gouverneur - Last post by asburyparkjohn
Every top pilot I ever met has/had his "GO TO KITE." Just be aware that purchasing a NEW DESIGN every year CAN STALL SEVERELY your trick building arsenal (for a lack of a better term).

A good example is the Benson Deep Space ... I could probably do 24 consecutive JL rungs on a Transformer TL and would take a $50 bet anytime/anywhere ... on the DS I would not even take a $0.50 bet with one rung ... you are either ALL IN or OUT with this kite ... INCREDIBLE kite with its NO PULL AT ALL in high winds but its APPLES/ORANGES.

A good example at one of TP's I attended the great DUAL pilot Dave Smith was teaching me the Fade ... the winds were strong and he did tell me these were not great conditions to learn this trick ... he picked up some kite nearby and the kite ended up in a big tangle mess after this short demo ... after turning red ... he turned to me and said ... the winds are too strong and "THIS IS NOT MY KITE."

Just backing up my point ... not promoting the KOOL-AID kites ... in my early days with Custom kites I was unaware of this dilemma on MY LEARNING CURVE.

APJ


 37 
 on: Today at 04:51 AM 
Started by Doug S - Last post by asburyparkjohn
Just an update after flying the New Overpeck Park with some Lam Stunt Kites = TWICE.

1. If the winds are from the dead West stay home. Very bumpy from the Ridgefield Park town tree line 1/4 mile away even on the 40 acre GREAT LAWN opposite edge. If the winds are from the dead East not sure with the Fort Lee skyline about 1/4 mile away across the river? This wind flow is the most rare at this spot.

2. Winds from the SW or SE you are virtually at the beach.

3. Winds from the NE you are virtually at the beach.

4. Winds from the NW a little chop but not much just avoid the hill and fly at the opposite end of Great Lawn.

Bring an SUL for 7-8 PM flights as expected. Look for winds above 5 mph at 4-8 PM slot after work. If less than 5 mph stay home IMO.

So NE,N,NW or SE,S or SW at 5-12 mph your good as Liberty State Park - guaranteed OR BETTER. Avoid dead west or maybe dead E? (TBD).

APJ

 38 
 on: Today at 04:01 AM 
Started by thief - Last post by JimB
^don't forget the Walkman with an awesome mixtapeGrin


 Cheesy

That's Awesome!

I saw that movie for my birthday Yesterday.

Looking forward to Awesome Mix Vol. 2.


 39 
 on: Today at 03:45 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by inewham
I too could not access the first page, however I noticed that if I clicked the 'prev' link from page 2 I could see it.

Having limited powers as a board admin I thought I'd try moving the thread to Forum Moderators as a temporary location then move the posts into a new thread.

I moved it and now the first page has disappeared completely. If anyone can 'see' it in its original location
http://www.gwtwforum.com/index.php?topic=104.0 can you let me know? Maybe we can copy the first page into a new thread.

Confused and very busy  :'(

 40 
 on: Today at 03:41 AM 
Started by bt - Last post by Hadge
Somebody had a custom all Mylar Flying Wings Soul which looked pretty cool.


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