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 on: October 22, 2016, 07:05 AM 
Started by Keith T. - Last post by Keith T.

Thanks for all of the advice!  It is a beautiful day here in Georgia and the Atlanta Kite Festival should be perfect with winds forecast to be 12 to 16 mph.  We are going to go with a couple of kites and video camera in hand.  Will post video and pictures ASAP!


 on: October 22, 2016, 07:05 AM 
Started by Keith T. - Last post by Controlled Crash
Keith, welcome to the forum.
I own several of these skeleton kites. It was recommended to me to use some no-fray fabric spray on the kite before you fly it. I do not know how well this works as I have not done it, but I kinda wish I had.

On the pirate, there is a bit of fraying on the skull cap end that sticks out from its head. All of them suffer from a little bit of fraying on the fingers and toes. That is from having been flown in 8-12 MPH winds for about 4-5 hours total, depending on which kite. Except for when I flew the 21 foot Dia Del Muerto skeleton in winds around 16-20 with gusts to 25 last weekend. It pulls pretty well. It didn't like the gusts. It lawn darted several times (in grass) with no damage to the head. I flew it for a little over 4 hours. There is lots of fraying on the fingers and toes and some of the ribs are starting to fray. In time, it might look like a skull wearing a fuzzy sweater.

I have stacked two of the 13 foot kites. I put about 8 foot between the kites. I think that gap needs to be widened, but they did fly well together. I did put the black body on the white skull and the white body on the black skull.   

 on: October 22, 2016, 03:57 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by thief
Sounds like you are happy in the new generation of sport kites!!!
"HAM FISTED BEACH KITE JOCKEY HAS-BEEN!" Well... That has me laughing since it could apply to me as well.... Might have break out a sport kite this weekend

 on: October 22, 2016, 12:35 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by OCPablo
When I decided to come back to stunt kites, I went crazy buying all sorts of cool stuff.  Of course, the biggest challenge was not 2 line vs 4 line... it was pushing myself to re-learn all the old tricks and then figure out how to get in tune with the new stuff.  All this backspin, flippity yo-yo, wrapped burrito with x-tra 'sauce' ... how would I get there? Where to start? Which kite?

Over the last 3 months it has been a bit of a challenge.  Broken spars from heavy handed snap stalls (my kingdom for 20lbs of good ole' 5P's), a couple of small punctures from LS premature ejection, realizing that 12yr old Spectra is NOT as good as it once was.  Crap... just hand me my Rev and let's do that upside down stop and slide thingy!


Today... there was a slight waff of wind at my fav flying spot.  The ole wind meter says a lumpy 2mph.  Crap... WAIT! I got that NSE WW and that XT.R UL... let's see what they can do.  Now realizing that these two kites cost me more than a luxury car payment... let's not BLOW THEM UP YOU HAM FISTED BEACH KITE JOCKEY HAS-BEEN!  These are not NorCal Old Skool Whack It certified... no these are going to require some finesse, patience, think smooth.

First up the WW. Wow.  Pulls like it's in a solid 10mph. Snap turns, spin stalls, full window slides, coin tosses.  Nice.  Let's try... whoa! This thing drops onto it's back faster and easier than... well let's say I'm getting what I paid for! Drop the nose back and a little pop and... Flat Spins! Never done that before! And multi's! JUST LET THE KITE FLOAT AROUND AND POP... AROUND THE OTHER WAY AND POP... WOOHOO! (Big shout out to Vertigo2u for his storyline sorting out the backspin and all the folks who posted tips! Your suggestions, videos and visualizations all made this guy 'get-it' quickly!)

OK. Wind is filling out, gotta be up to 4, let's try the XT.R.  OK, different feel, but more 'drive'. She's got a wider aspect, so need to be a little more patient on the flat rotations and a little more input (thinking out loud obviously).  We start off with some ground work, a few Ollies and then wap... start pulling off double rotation Ollies right off the deck. Sweet.  OK, let's try a backspin... yeah timing not there, need more wind (and I think the tail weight is in the repair box), can't get the timing down. Nice full window slides.... then full window with axle thru the center... then bingo, start hitting double axles out of spin turns at windows edge coming toward center window.  It's happening... I am starting to feel the kite, the wind, the pressure on the lines, sail and frame.

When I stopped flying 10+ years ago, I was stuck trying to pull off one trick.  Single pop slot machine. Could never get it, tried for about 6 months and got close once.

Today... this kite said to me "I got this".

Down the center, a slight left track, 10ft off the deck throw the hands forward, pop the right back and BOOM!  A beautiful rising slot machine! After a couple of successful re-do's I started connecting the tricks again.  At the end of the day, with the sun setting on the amazing Pacific I drove it down center window to snap a two point landing and the kite said... no, one more.

Pull, push, pop... let it go, walk towards it... wait, WAIT....double rotation slot machine! Snap up the slack half axle to a nice tip stab. 'Out' I say to myself.  'SWEET' says the guy who was watching, "That was pretty cool, thought you were going to crash it!"

Yeah... me too.

No video, no photos.  Just that 'moment' where a little wind and some amazing kites welcomed me back and rewarded me for being 'patient'.

Hoping by Sunday the normal winds come back and it is a Fan-TAZ-tic day!

Thanks for the bandwidth.

 on: October 21, 2016, 11:10 PM 
Started by Keith T. - Last post by OCPablo

 I forgot to say that if you look up  'Jim nicholl's' kite videos on you tube, he has two or three different videos with the skeleton kites.  Very cute.  Jim has made 600-700 kite videos featuring kites from a range of manufactures, domestic, Asian and European.  He also has a few videos on how to put together kites (one for the skeleton kite), how to anchor kites, and explanations on how to make knots to simplify kite flying. 

If you haven't already you may want to look up Jim's you tube channel.  Very helpful to me.


Agreed, an excellent resource and has done many video reviews for Into The Wind kites as well.

 on: October 21, 2016, 11:07 PM 
Started by Keith T. - Last post by OCPablo
when you start having them delivered to work or a friend's house you a problem......
but hen you can slide them into a bag and just say "oh that? i have had that for a long time, dont you remember it?"

he he he he he he.......

Just a piece of advice... if you 'take a break' for a few years from this hobby and decide to come back you'll likely

A. Spend at a nutty rate getting you "bag re-filled"
B. Your significant other has not forgotten what size/shape box a kite comes in
C. He/She can still count and amazingly now will posses a photographic memory of what you had last time out.

But... at least your outside!!!

 on: October 21, 2016, 08:36 PM 
Started by vertigo2u - Last post by asburyparkjohn

 on: October 21, 2016, 05:56 PM 
Started by vertigo2u - Last post by RobB
I'll be flying 4 lines if the wind is over 15mph. My wind app shows Coney Island forecast for 15mph on Sunday. Saturday is just out of the question, we're expecting 40mph out here.

 on: October 21, 2016, 02:22 PM 
Started by Palmahnic - Last post by Palmahnic
Thanks for this information Palmahnic.

Marieanne of Kites and Fun Things informed me that they have stopped making the P#X series all together.

Do you know why?

I have no idea. I could guess, but yours would be as good as mine..

 on: October 21, 2016, 09:59 AM 
Started by Pikman - Last post by johnfarl
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