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 41 
 on: August 26, 2014, 09:01 PM 
Started by Jorge Gouverneur - Last post by Jorge Gouverneur
Hi Jorge,

Great video as always, I can only reiterate your opinion of this kite ie UL version. Once you understand how floaty it can become,  all low end tricks are there including 360 rotation spins. The kite does not like flic flac transitions off access however once in the fade the kite is solid for backspins and flic flacs as long as you would like. The lack of weight takes a little time to get use to, I found this with many kites. Understand the aspect ratio of the kite and accept the consequences that come with it. My opinion I love the kite and will I a few more in the future.

Cheers
Keith     


Thanks Keith.

You are right about everything. I haven't had much time with the kite so I'm still experimenting with the inputs and how it reacts. Winds were terrible that day. I live away from the Floridian coasts so most of my flying is inland. Normally winds are not that gusty were I fly. From est to west the park is clear of big buildings so that's when I get the best winds The Day I did the video winds were from the North side were there are tall buildings creating some turbulence.

Going back to the kite. Next weekend I'll try to show some of the things I discovered that this kite is capable of doing.  Smiley

Cheers.

Jorge

 42 
 on: August 26, 2014, 08:22 PM 
Started by Daedalus - Last post by Daedalus
Hello,

Does anyone here have any practical flying experience with the HQ Silent Dart 60 from their "Retro Line? " Is it more than a pretty face? I imagine it may not trick so well (or at all) but I am intetested in stability and precision.

On a side note, I risk showing my age but I still have a hard time with the 90s being considered "retro."  Wink

Best regards

 43 
 on: August 26, 2014, 07:27 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by tpatter
Anytime Charles!    Are you going to Whidbey this September?

 44 
 on: August 26, 2014, 07:16 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by Charles P
 tpatter, that was very informative and a good read! As you know I'm looking for my next SUL and you just might have sold me on the Transformer.
 Also, I might take you up on meeting you at Magnuson park in the near future. I'll let you fly my Seven SUL if you give me a go with the Transformer!!   Tongue
 Do you ever come down to Chambers Bay? That's my home field.

 45 
 on: August 26, 2014, 06:22 PM 
Started by SEHertenstein - Last post by thief
Great hints! I would also suggest making a bridle sleeve for that beast... A tube about an inch or two wide and long enough to cover the full length of the bridle.... Then when you go to put it away you slide the sleeve over the bridle and voila no mess!   

I made one for a chopstick kite that has a long convoluted cascade bridle and it is awesome!  Pretty simple to build as well.

 46 
 on: August 26, 2014, 05:34 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by asburyparkjohn
Maybe with time it will be like the Prism Vapor.

House Guest: Do you fly it? Pilot/Owner: Of course not!

Owner/Pilot: Do you want to touch it?  No problem $25.00 per and a round of drinks.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

A kite like this Tom as you know will take top skills, full knowledge of the wind, near zero mistakes near the ground level, even one low near the ground fade could be dangerous --- I fly the Benson IS outside occasionally and after 10 years broke the central spine once and the LE once. The LE was stupid ... I landed it on a rock jetty and the wing tip went into a crevice ... OOUUCCHH ... then a simple one point launch ... SNAP. It would be good to know that an INLAND FLOATER exist in this range with one step back and a two arm pull and you can hit the top of the window in basically zero wind. I think a very durable central spine is key, one claw yo-yo stoppers, skinny 2PT LEs and an optional regular 2 PT LS as an ADD-ON if the wind picks up - SLIGHTLY. From my experience LE breaks are primarily pilot screw-ups, a stronger wind in the central window beyond the acceptable wind window and the pilot got lazy in not changing kites (which happens) or a fade screw-up near the ground could take out the central spine and from my experience the female LS breaking INTO the male LS due to too much wind.


APJ

 47 
 on: August 26, 2014, 03:44 PM 
Started by bt - Last post by David Kirk
NSR Kona. I have two of them. The other one has a blue bridle so I can tell them apart. I always thought that they were just a NSR with a lighter frame and sail but they are not. The shape is slightly different, the top spreader is higher and the standoffs are much shorter.


 48 
 on: August 26, 2014, 02:58 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by tpatter
Love seeing these experiments!  It's how things progress.  Agreed on using 2PTs for LSs on larger kites...

Yeah - it makes me confident.  I've flown my Fearless with 2pt in some pretty high wind with no issues.    The walls on the AirZero are just so thin I think perhaps a different sort of ferrule would have worked better.   The LEs have been hanging tough with a fair amount of abuse at this point.

 49 
 on: August 26, 2014, 02:54 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by tpatter
cool tom

i also like the zero-airs a lot (in my magnet xul)

but, where is the video??

Krijn

Coming soon!  I just love how this kite yo-yos - so graceful its like watching in slo-mo, but its full speed.  JL same way.


 50 
 on: August 26, 2014, 02:52 PM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by tpatter
John,

I've talked a 0-2 kite over with Lam in the past and, really, what we're talking about here is an indoor kite that is made primarily for outdoor use. 

His SULs are designed for full tricks without the compromises that most SULs make.  In that way, I enjoy them and wouldn't have him change a thing.  His SSULs are as light as he can make them and still work really well - my Trans SSUL would one pop, but only if you concentrated on it.

I suppose another point could be that only 2-3 guys would sign up for an outdoor kite designed for a 0-2 mph range that you would likely have to adapt your style to fly.   But, I do get your point - a kite like the iTrix but Lam style built for easier yoyo, comet, etc.



-Tom

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