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 on: May 21, 2017, 10:38 AM 
Started by FXCanada - Last post by DD
OPK= other peoples kites
Depending on where you live you may be able to meet up with more people and try the kites they have.
 I would second a zephyr(i would call it a light std and not a true ul) but you can also look on the swap meet to see what is out there. Then you have to talk what kind of wind you fly in most. Ul kites get you flying in lower wind and sul get you flying in next to no wind.
 Best of luck and dont be afraid to ask ANYTHING to the forum about kites

 62 
 on: May 21, 2017, 09:02 AM 
Started by FXCanada - Last post by FXCanada
Interesting you should mention the Zephyr - that is one I was looking at on the top of my list and seems suitable for some of the lower wind days around here. Fair enough about the Kymera - I just like watching the videos with John B. flying it - and the way he moves it in the air.

 63 
 on: May 21, 2017, 04:36 AM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by Fly Market
Yup, that's happened to me a couple times on the East Coast. I support the LGBTQ cause, but I don't build kites for that purpose. But it's art, and people are going to interpret it the way they want.

Of course, I also assume that all kites featuring blue, white, and red, must be pro-Russian or pro-French.  Cheesy

 64 
 on: May 21, 2017, 03:50 AM 
Started by FXCanada - Last post by Ca Ike
No one kite is going to fit all your criteria.  Frankly the kymera is not a beginner friendly kite IMO.  A lot depends on your budget and prevailing wind conditions.  The prism Zephyr is a good kite to start with that will handle a decent wind range, has lots of growth potential and is right around $200.  Flying wings silver fox is another decent kite but doesn't fly well below a steady 4mph.  Most other kites will run closer to the $300 mark or more.

The problem is, Flying in 1-5 mph really does require a different kite and technique than flying in 5-15mph so what your most common winds are will dictate where you start.  Out of the 20 or so kites I have, the one that stays in my car for use in most conditions I run into is still my Zephyr with a 90lbx100ft line set for normal and a 50lb x 50ft line set for light winds.   You still have to keep in mind that you will have to adjust the kite AND your flying technique when the wind drops below 4 mph.

 65 
 on: May 21, 2017, 03:28 AM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by Ca Ike
Wow. I must be getting old -that never crossed my mind  Huh

Mine either until last year.

 66 
 on: May 21, 2017, 02:36 AM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by inewham
Wow. I must be getting old -that never crossed my mind  Huh

 67 
 on: May 21, 2017, 12:37 AM 
Started by FXCanada - Last post by FXCanada
Okay, total Newbie here - bought my first kite about 1.5 months ago, a Revolution EXP absolutely got me addicted to flying! I didn't even own a dual line before this - so  the learning curve was a bit steep and no one around to give guidance. Anyhow, with persistence, I have got a good handle on it now and I am looking to buy my next kite.

Here is what is important:

-a kite that will be hard to outgrow - complex enough to really keep me practicing tricks - "old school" & "new school"
-somewhat adjustable if possible for different wind conditions(we tend to get shifty/gusty but low wind conditions here on the Canadian prairies, but some days are also just VERY windy)
-something that is maybe a little quicker to setup than the rev quadlines(although I am sure i want to buy another REV down the road)but probably a dual line for now
-somewhat budget friendly if possible, but this is not my first concern
-my vision of a perfect kite is of one that can glide gently through the air, but then whip it around on a dime too
-not worried about a challenge

I've been looking at the ITW Kymera. Seems ideal in many ways - but wondering if I could maybe go a bit easier on the budget if possible.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

 68 
 on: May 20, 2017, 10:34 PM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by Ca Ike
I don't have a problem with rainbow kites.  People recently are ruining them for me though.  Last year at our Color the skies fest in ripon I was relaunching George's rainbow Jordan and had several people comment to me on how great it was that I was celebrating LGBT during the fest with a rainbow kite.  No matter what I said they were insistent that thats what I was doing.  Really ruined that kite for me the rest of the fest and now I can't look at rainbow kites the same way I used to.

 69 
 on: May 20, 2017, 07:38 PM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by Fly Market
That rainbow fabric is back! https://www.flymarketkites.com/ripstop-polyester/34-oz-ripstop-polyester  But yeah, please use it wisely. It's possible to have too much of a good thing.

I have my share of rainbow kites, going back to my first stunter, a TOTL North Shore Extreme. So I can't slag on them too much. But, I think the problem is that the rainbow pattern is just too easy. As you build kites, you need to start thinking about how to use color. Expand your horizons and move beyond the default color setting. Michael Goddard has written an excellent guide to using color well, I'd recommend it for anybody who's thinking about what color combo to put on their next kite.  http://www.idesignkites.com/content/inspiration/colour/colour.html

 70 
 on: May 20, 2017, 10:37 AM 
Started by AirForceKites - Last post by inewham
I don't think we have a problem with rainbow colours if they're on seperate panels, but there was some rainbow fabric a few years ago that was used in all the wrong places such as rainbow dolphins apliqued onto a fake Gemini. That kind of thing drew a lot of derision.

Time to come out out of the closet - here is one of my rainbows  Grin

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