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 71 
 on: Yesterday at 08:46 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by DD
Posted on the old forum:
_________________________________________________________________                             
   Author district13                                                                                       
                                                                                                   
   Yo' remember this one? remember the crazy comete vids? maybe not..                               
   http://www.kites-and-boats.de/13.htm                                                             
   for those interested get um before they get pulled.                                             
   Danke Micheal for your efforts                                                                   
   http://www.masterofdisaster.de/download/witch.dwg                                               
   http://www.masterofdisaster.de/download/witch.dxf                                               
   http://www.masterofdisaster.de/download/witch_A0.pdf                                             
   http://www.masterofdisaster.de/download/witch_a4_gekachelt.pdf[/url]                                   
   the plan corrections:                                                                           
   http://www.masterofdisaster.de/download/the_witch_korrigiert_konstruktionsmasse.pdf                                                                                     
   there should be about 4 more new plans coming out soon or so ive been                           
   told so dont overload yursevs                                                                   
   Taha         

 72 
 on: Yesterday at 08:45 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by DD
http://www.vliegerblad.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=3&Itemid=29
For those who read dutch, or are able to 'read between the language'.
sections with single-liners, two- and four-liners.

Don't know how long it'll be in the air though, cause the magazine has died a quiet death after 27 years. Cry

 73 
 on: Yesterday at 08:45 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by DD
can't forget the:

Kite Plan Base
http://vientocero.com/kpb/en.html

 74 
 on: Yesterday at 08:45 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by DD
Try these Belgian ones: Tongue
http://www.tweelijners.com/werner/index-en.html
http://www.tweelijners.com/tom/tomskitesite-en/Home.html

Have seen builds of them even in the US of A.   Smiley

 75 
 on: Yesterday at 08:44 AM 
Started by inewham - Last post by DD
I thought it might be useful to list a few here, especially those that are beginner friendly.

When there's a few they can be split into quad/dual/single line.

As a mainly stunt kiter I'll start with an obvious one:
 list a few here, especially those that are beginner friendly.
Orange: http://wildkite.net/plans_e.htm

Pretty simple and step by step instructions. A good choice for a first build.

 76 
 on: Yesterday at 08:30 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by Captainbob

1.  On the first forum 1 user, 17 guests
2.  On the second forum  1 user   19 guests
3.  On the third forum, which is the most active, this one  8 users  58 guests.

I was on another very large forum years ago, that experienced the same issue, of most people not registering, never posting, just lurking...
99% of guests on internet forums are bots, not lurkers. it's how search engines have publicly visible posts in search results within hours.

If that is true, which I doubt, how on earth does the forum know how many visits they get a day, to tell their advertisers and supporters what the forum traffic is.  For instance, right now, this forum has had according to their statistics,  152 visitors so far today.  If ~90% of the visitors are bots, that means that there were likely only 15 visits total so far today.  I don't buy that at all.  There are also programs  that websites can use which don't count bots using various methods to detect them. I am sure that forums like the kiting forums use something similar.

 77 
 on: Yesterday at 07:57 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by fidelio

1.  On the first forum 1 user, 17 guests
2.  On the second forum  1 user   19 guests
3.  On the third forum, which is the most active, this one  8 users  58 guests.

I was on another very large forum years ago, that experienced the same issue, of most people not registering, never posting, just lurking...
99% of guests on internet forums are bots, not lurkers. it's how search engines have publicly visible posts in search results within hours.

 78 
 on: Yesterday at 07:56 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by asburyparkjohn
For now this would be my last thought ...

SLKs are no issue. You buy one ... wind at your back ... and IN GENERAL ... they go up. Whether a 100' Octopus or a $10 Cinderella kite ... just kidding but lets get to the real problem here ...

The main issue is Stunts and Revs. So just dreaming for example ... say Prism and Revolution had starter packages they can send to AKA at these events. Say for Prism knowing Stunts it included a Quantum with two straps & lines (75'X 90# and 65'X50#) for high and low winds and a step by step process along with a link for those hand control vids. ... some of you have seen them showing the TWO HANDS and the different basic tricks on the Prism site. Similar for a Rev package. Also do 50/50  raffles at the main convention to support funding for this STARTER PROGRAM, give them out as prizes using a small portion of AKA funds and then do a stunt and Rev demo at the event. These packages go out to all AKA events.

On the website on the Home Page have these as starter kits IN BOLD. Say $100 for stunts and $200 for revs.

When I told Chester's mom how to go to the next level:

1. I did not say go to the AKA site.
2. I did say go to the Prism site due to a good user-friendly website (primary reason).
3. Then order a Quantum.
4. Then order 75' X 90# line.
5. Then told her to wait for winds that were strong.
6. See that American flag wait for it to look like this ...
7. What about other lines (50#) making the kite go up easier.
8. Make sure there are no obstacles on where the wind is coming from ... etc.

You see my point. MAybe I will just stick with a $25 SLK? People want EASY ... ready to use packages ... include CDs with the the starter kit like these JB Rev. series videos.

So we are clear ... I learned 100% of my trick making with a stunt kite not from the AKA but the pilots at these events and the Internet (Mama vids as an example and RG). Ironically - if there were no AKA Competitions I never would have met these pilots and my learning curve would have been halted severely. So AKA helped out ONLY INDIRECTLY. I do honestly believe the OLD SKOOL AKA Comp formats do indirectly teach you how to fly ... but few today IMO will bring down their SUL,UL,Std. & Vents so they are wind ready. When you are at this level you are there already ... why travel 500 miles to fly in straight lines in a Precision comp?

Start helping DIRECTLY ... just a thought on these two kite packages for 2 & 4-line at AKA Events. Indirectly this can only help other non-Prism kite makers or they can also contribute starter packages.

In terms of SLKs I do see some people dragging $15 SLKs along the beach sand once in awhile in 12+ mph winds ... sometimes ... you just can't FIX stupid ... but in this case its still a QUICK FIX ...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

On the boardwalk one year in Wildwood at the International I was coming back from the rest room and walking behind these two kids about 14 and 15 ... one kid said to the other ... Boy ... it would be really neat to try some of these kites ... the other being a local I guess said ... "Don't bother ... there all professionals."

Currently AKA ... Chester is NOT ...

APJ

 79 
 on: Yesterday at 07:35 AM 
Started by asburyparkjohn - Last post by thief
Let me start this with I have been an AKA member for the magazine and needing members to get club recognition, not the loftiest reasons.  I share many of the frustrations expressed here on the forum.  Since I don't compete or travel to festivals in the far flung reaches of the world AKA has had little to offer.  That having been said John Lutter (AKA president) is VERY interested in making the AKA better and more "user friendly". I'm attaching his AKA e-mail he wants to hear your thoughts.  This is not a guarantee there will be amazing change in the organization though I can guarantee change will come.

The success of the GWTW forum is certainly based on participation but let's not forget all the time and work Steve and the moderators have been willing to put in to make it successful (thanks!!!!).  Though I hate to admit it kiting will never be RC planes for rocketry and we likely will never be an olympic sport but we can still grow.  Kiting out there and getting "kites in their hands" will take it from small to not so small.

As a disclaimer I am lucky enough to fly locally with John and he is going to hear about what's being said here - he wants to know.

president@aka.kite.org
John is a sponsor of the forum as well and I know he checks in sometimes...hopefully he has seen this thread...

 80 
 on: Yesterday at 07:18 AM 
Started by twhite510 - Last post by twhite510
Norm.
 As you live so far up north from me I suppose I may not get to meet you real soon. Although when you do make it down this way the next time I hope to get to meet you.
 Thanks for the tip on learning the Fade. I try to get to the ball field or school after work during the week. But there is usually people there. I can sometimes get an hour or so in once during the week. On the weekend I can get another bit of time early in the morning if there is any wind. Really variable wind in town so it is kind of a challenge practicing things. The fade will be good for me to practice with the wind situation. It will help me to get used to moving my feet more. I think I tend to be too stationary. 
 

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