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 81 
 on: August 18, 2016, 02:38 PM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by harveystubbs
I don't know what this request has to do with R-sky kites, none of the kites in the subject is going to be a Flat Spin Hero, if you are thinking of flat spins in the Old Skool sense.

In terms of what's available new, the Benson Gemini is what you are looking for.

An older kite that really fits this description once reframed is the Matheson HQ Zenith. Mine has a 5pt frame and is pretty much exactly what you describe


Surely that's go be spark a new school versus old school debate. You don't want a gem if you are going to taz. How about a toxic as a compromise?  Cool

The nfx is a super fun beach kite  Cool

 82 
 on: August 18, 2016, 01:46 PM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by Allen Carter
I don't know what this request has to do with R-sky kites, none of the kites in the subject is going to be a Flat Spin Hero, if you are thinking of flat spins in the Old Skool sense.

In terms of what's available new, the Benson Gemini is what you are looking for.

An older kite that really fits this description once reframed is the Matheson HQ Zenith. Mine has a 5pt frame and is pretty much exactly what you describe

 83 
 on: August 18, 2016, 09:39 AM 
Started by Ca Ike - Last post by Steve
anyone heading that way from Sacramento give me a holler ... I'll buy lunch in exchange for a ride  Wink

 84 
 on: August 18, 2016, 09:26 AM 
Started by Ca Ike - Last post by Ca Ike
I have been asked by the organizers to get a head count of the fun fly participants that will be potentially showing up. We reserve parking spaces right next to the field for invited flyers and this will give us an idea of how many we need.

 85 
 on: August 18, 2016, 09:03 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by Ca Ike
From my experimenting,  you don't lose pitch ability if you go for turntable flat rotational spins. What you lose is the deep turtle.

 86 
 on: August 18, 2016, 06:23 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by honchoboy
I completely agree with Ca Ike's above comment. Its not as simple as adding wingtip weight. It will mess with the balance 'as designed', and affect the pitchiness, which is not what you are looking for.

By all means play (very small weights at the end of the lower spreaders may give you something) but modern kites rarely spin flat, and are a trade-off for pitch ability. You could try removing any tailweight as a test, but my guess is whatever you gain you will lose somewhere else.

 87 
 on: August 18, 2016, 01:04 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by Ca Ike
Great info here.

At the moment the only kite I want to completely re-frame is a 98 Midi I just found on eBay, the 3PT frame is interesting, I also have a bit of FW T10 rods I was thinking of using along with an old school SS 3P spine.  I will most likely duplicate the frame I put into my old Mini Sandpiper when I had it.

What I was more interested in was the fact that many kites from Europe are using 6mm spines, and a combo of wrapped LE/Spreaders.  Not sure why...

I have a L'Atilier Transfer XT.r UL that I want to up-frame from 3PT to 5PT/P200.  The frame is easily overpowered in anything over 5mph, and I would happily give up the 1-3 mph range for a larger wind window. One thing I do want to duplicate/play with is are the LE tip nocks which are attached to a small piece of internal ferrule.  Great way to make a clean tip, and I am going to see what happens when I add some weight to the tips as it pertains to flat spin rotational speed.  I have noticed that these new kites with their deep sails don't like to flat spin truly FLAT, the nose wants to lift up for obvious reasons.  If a ballast weight on the spine can help with flips, then weight at the tips might get more immediate rotation and hopefully get me flatter spins with a little more rotational speed.

Then again... I could be and most likely are completely wrong on this.

Not sure where to start on this. I think you will be disappointed with weight in the tips. You will get more rotational speed but you will also get massive oversteer and  make the kite tail heavy. It's really no different than the weight at the tail end of the spine.

If you want to change the nose angle of the kite in the face down position you have to work in the keel section, not the wings.

 88 
 on: August 18, 2016, 12:27 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by OCPablo
Wanted: 7'ish kite that likes a heavy hand. Flat spin hero, solid precision and can do ground moves like a pro running back. Flippy Flop tricks are not required, but Taz, coin slots, ollie's ... A must!!!

Willing to reframe/bridle.

Thoughts?

 89 
 on: August 17, 2016, 01:43 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by SparkieRob
Great info here.

At the moment the only kite I want to completely re-frame is a 98 Midi I just found on eBay, the 3PT frame is interesting, I also have a bit of FW T10 rods I was thinking of using along with an old school SS 3P spine.  I will most likely duplicate the frame I put into my old Mini Sandpiper when I had it.

What I was more interested in was the fact that many kites from Europe are using 6mm spines, and a combo of wrapped LE/Spreaders.  Not sure why...

I have a L'Atilier Transfer XT.r UL that I want to up-frame from 3PT to 5PT/P200.  The frame is easily overpowered in anything over 5mph, and I would happily give up the 1-3 mph range for a larger wind window. One thing I do want to duplicate/play with is are the LE tip nocks which are attached to a small piece of internal ferrule.  Great way to make a clean tip, and I am going to see what happens when I add some weight to the tips as it pertains to flat spin rotational speed.  I have noticed that these new kites with their deep sails don't like to flat spin truly FLAT, the nose wants to lift up for obvious reasons.  If a ballast weight on the spine can help with flips, then weight at the tips might get more immediate rotation and hopefully get me flatter spins with a little more rotational speed.

Then again... I could be and most likely are completely wrong on this.

I had an idea to put a small amount of weight into the wing tips by using some brass rod glued into a nock end and use that to tension the sail.


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 90 
 on: August 17, 2016, 01:14 AM 
Started by OCPablo - Last post by skb
I've got 6 or 7 Midis and all are re-framed with a variety of spars from Avia Skinny UL, G-Force UL to Sky Shark 2PT, 3PT & 5PT.

I loved the G-Force UL version, but I sure broke an armload on LLEs. The Sky Shark have proven to be much more durable, plus their internal ferrules are interchangeable, unlike the old Avia.


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