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 on: March 03, 2019, 03:14 PM 
Started by chilese - Last post by mwp
Okay people.

I am declaring a "My Kite Is The Loudest"

Don't worry Ill be bringing my Lam kites

 on: March 03, 2019, 02:53 AM 
Started by MadHungarian - Last post by Allen Carter
I’m glad you got in touch with Fred. He and his wife Gerri were a big part of my initiation into sport kite competition in 1999.

I met Gerri first, in fact she was the person who came up to me at the first comp I attended as a spectator and encouraged me to compete. Gerri was one of those people who was really good at pulling people in and making introductions. Later that year at my first WSIKF she introduced me to Ray Bethel and other important, if less legendary, people.

I don’t think I’d said more than Hello to Fred by the time I took the field for my first Ballet competition. I had done poorly in the first event of the day, Precision,  and was extremely nervous going into Ballet. One of the challenges for a first timer is just the logistics of getting your kite and lines on and off the field over the boundary tapes. Everyone sets up to one side of the field, the “Pit” area, so the events can take place without too much transition delay. I flew last in the Novice Ballet and as I was flying people were setting up kites in the pit for the next event, pairs Ballet.

My routine went well and I was thrilled! Totally distracted and coming down from the adrenaline as I left the field. The awkwardness of getting on and off the field was forgotten and I tried to step over the boundary tape while still holding my kite. I took a big step and CRUNCH.

I stepped right onto a pair of SUL X-Terminators. Oh My God! 

Fred came running and started inspecting the damage, throwing me dirty looks as I stammered my apologies and offered to pay for the damage. After a few minutes he took me aside and “patiently” explained it wasn’t the cost he was pissed off about, but that he thought it would be the end of their day, that they wouldn’t be able to fly! Then he half smiled and said I was lucky and unlucky at the same time. Unlucky to step on his SULs and break 7 expensive spars. Lucky that the wind had just picked up and they would be flying their STD kites. :-)

Fred and I got to be friends after that rocky first day, and I always looked forward to seeing him and Gerri.

 on: March 02, 2019, 05:39 PM 
Started by MadHungarian - Last post by JimB
You'd be surprised.

Put up a want ad and a standard might show up.

It's amazing what shows up if people put it out there to the community.

 on: March 02, 2019, 10:21 AM 
Started by MadHungarian - Last post by MadHungarian
Allen Carter put me in touch with Fred Adler and I was able to speak with him on the phone today. I'm going to document that conversation here in case anyone is interested.

Fred has an aeronautics background, ex Air Force. He also designed and flew RC planes and gliders.

He flew kites primarily in the Berkeley area. He competed in kite ballet with his wife. He said that in Berkley they often flew in high wind. He met John Gaby at Berkeley. The X-Terminator that I acquired was one of John's kites. He said there used to be a fairly large kite club at Berkeley, about 40 people.

Fred had an accident and fell down stairs in 1978. As a result he injured his back. So he wanted a kite with less pull and that was why he designed the X-Terminator. That's why the X-Terminator has a flatter sail profile. The small angled standoffs at the wingtips are to reduce washout. The name for the X-Terminator stems from the fact that it's primary rival at the time was a kite called the Wasp.

He thinks he built about 50 X-Terminator kites total. Some UL, mostly standard, and some vented. He built them and sold them to other people to get money for materials and parts. He did all the fabrication and sewing.

He hasn't been active in kiting in over 15 years.

So that's the story of the X-Terminator. He encouraged me to try to get a standard version if I got the chance. I'm guessing the likelihood of that is small.

I have had one opportunity to fly the X-Terminator so far. It still flies, nothing wrong with it. As Fred intended, the pull is minimum. I'll need more time with the kite to get used to it.

 on: February 28, 2019, 06:26 AM 
Started by dszo - Last post by dszo
As to the weight - I meant that the tail weight that I used is 18 grams

 on: February 26, 2019, 06:03 AM 
Started by dszo - Last post by breezin
The orange makes the kite really pop without a whole lot going on. Understated elegance comes to mind. Very cool!!!

 on: February 26, 2019, 05:49 AM 
Started by Trevor W. - Last post by breezin
Been flying for about a year and a half.Spent 3 months looking for another SUL. Air One Grid and Arrow 2 panel were at the top of the list. Got the AC a few weeks ago. It's tough, a trick monster and stated wind range is 1 to 10 mph. Need to get some 30# x 80' to fly better in 1 to 2.Kind of a nice floaty feel at the very bottom but at 2 powers up nice and smooth. Stays the same all thru it's wind range with no weird quirks as the winds rise and fall. It's handled my inland gusty winds really well sustaining 12/13 mph hits with relative ease.Flies on longer lines than most SULs. Really sweet on 120' x 50#. Pricey but for me well worth it.It's my3rd Lam kite and I'll probably get another. Would REALLY like to have a Skyburner Solus and a Benson Superfly though  Smiley.

 on: February 25, 2019, 09:14 PM 
Started by Trevor W. - Last post by DD

Another vote for the Benson Deep Space UL

  • Very floaty and forgiving of inputs - good for learning tricks
  • Has a big wind range - you can remove tailweight/upper spreader and fly in close to SUL winds
  • Benson's are the best made kites, period
  • You can get custom colors - please choose tasteful ones
  • It'll do all tricks except perhaps cynqiues

I have far too many dual lines but the DSUL remains my favorite.


All the above +1

 on: February 25, 2019, 03:02 PM 
Started by dszo - Last post by midibot
Always impressed to see someone tackle their own kite build. Thanks for posting!

A question: could you clarify the 18g weight at the end of your post?


weight - 18g

 on: February 25, 2019, 04:37 AM 
Started by dszo - Last post by dszo
Toda raba  Cheesy

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