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 on: September 13, 2014, 08:36 AM 
Started by pompebled - Last post by skb
I had a similar experience with a Bat kite, most likely from the same factory.
It had potential as an active, semi glider style kite, but the workmanship and material choices were very poor. I modified if with a few upgrades, but think I'll just make a new one out of quality materials and pin their Bat kite to the wall.

 on: September 13, 2014, 06:43 AM 
Started by pompebled - Last post by pompebled
Dear forummembers,

Allow me to introduce myself; my name is Jan, I'm from the Netherlands and I've been flying kites for the better part of my life, and have been building them for some 40 years.
So, being new to this forum, I'm actually an old member...

When my kids were young, we used to go kite flying on weekend, visit festivals and build kites during the week.
I've sew/glued together parafoils, delta's, sled, a Hewitt flexkite, a Ed Grauwel parashute (in 1 m and 5 m) the ripstop kites survived, most plastic ones got brittle over time and had to be rebuilt.
When the kids were strong enough to handle a two line stunter, I also made a few of those, flying in formation is a good exercise when the wind is strong...

Then my son discovered RC (competition) boating, dragged me into it and for the next 15 years flying kites tapered off to just the vacations.

Last year we quit racing in competition, which freed up some free time, I got my kites out more often and discovered all possible sites online, something that wasn't there when I started out.

Possibilities, possibilities...

From my RC boating, I saw several Chinese kite suppliers, knowing the (lack of) workmanship on the boathulls I purchased from them, I ordered a few kites from Banggood.
A small bat kite and an Eagle.

This seller uses the same pictures as the Banggood site:

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Upon arrival, the central spar of the eagle was broken during transport, so that one had to be replaced, no biggy, as I still had spare carbon, both solid and tube.
To cut the cost of production, all spars were attached to the fabric with these solid plastic pockets, using a hollow rivet, which works on smaller kites, but not on a 180 cm (70") span.

When I assembled the kite indoors, the fabric started to tear under the tension.
I took out the rivets and use a piece of Dacron to make some pocket which were sewed on, much better.
I also added stoppers (pieces of silicont tubin CA'd in place) on the wing spars to keep the fabric from tearing under the tension of the spreaders on the wings and central spar.

A short testflight reveiled the kite had been sewn together 'slightly' asymmetrical, it pulled to the right and the only thing it would do without adding a tail, was spiral to the ground.

I contacted Banggood, showing pictures of the assymetry, the 'upgrades' I made and I pointed out that what they were selling was a too cheap knock-off, with design features removed to lower the costs even more, poorly assembled etc, etc.
Having contact with Banggood is usually very smooth and they immediately took the kite from the site and offered me a 40% discount on my next 'quality' kite purchase.
I accepted the discount and ordered a couple of more (different) kites, knowing fully I had some work behing the sewing machine coming.

Back to the eagle.
I took the wings off the central section and put it back together as symetrical as possible, without redoing all the sewing.

I took the small batkite and the eagle out yesterday and to my surprise, the small batkite just required a small tail to keep flying, while the wind was a bit too strong 4Bft) for the thin tubing of the eagle, which was blown out of shape and wouldn't fly properly.

As I live in a country where it's windy more often than not, I 'need' kites that will fly in all kind of weather without crashing or falling apart.

When I google for 'eagle kite' I find several kites that look exactly like the one I have, but with an extra spar in every wing on which there's an extra triange for the bridle, or with the spreader under the kite in stead of behind the sail...
Odd, these seem to be the ones that do fly 'out of the bag'.

Question: if I add additional lines to the bridle, to keep the eagle from folding too much by incorporating lines from the end of the spreaders to the kiteline, about 1,5 m in front of the kite, would this allow me to fly it in higher wind?

I added two pictures, one with the eagle listing to the right severely (prior to the subsequent crash) The red line is where the tail should point if the kite was flying level:

And one showing the eagle deforming in too much wind, with the extra lines I proposed:

Regards, Jan.

 on: September 12, 2014, 05:55 PM 
Started by donaldrke - Last post by donaldrke
Serena and myself are in a dilemma  We were going in with another couple for a 4 bedroom house about 4 miles from the Convention site. The other couple cancelled out on us and we have three more bedrooms not used,  Already paid for,  Shared cost would be 460 dollars for 9 nights. Check in as early as Friday 26 and check out on Sunday Oct 5th. Please let us know if you would be interested or know of someone that would be interested. Let us know ASAP!!

Serena and Donald Jacobs
Got Wind? Kite Club

 on: September 12, 2014, 12:57 PM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by etully
Hi Ed, please try again... I just turned off the CAPTCHA box on the forms, and hopefully that helps. I'm doing this with spotty Wi-Fi, so please bear with me... Mel works in the AKA office from 12-3PM Pacific time if you continue to have issues.

 :)Working now, thanks John.

 on: September 12, 2014, 11:25 AM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by Mahtman
A few days ago I decided to join the AKA and register for the convention so I phoned the AKA at the number listed on the website. Mel picked up the phone right away and in a few minutes it was all done and paid for. Easy.

 on: September 12, 2014, 10:12 AM 
Started by tpatter - Last post by vertigo2u
The Sul will fly a bit different with her tail dragging...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The weather around here is changing quickly.  Huh Huh   Our wind starts to come from the North...  Sad  Sad which means stronger gust.  Lips sealed Lips sealed  I am going to miss my Aura but I will replace her one day...  Kiss Kiss   Glen in Australia should have her soon.   Undecided Undecided

I really am looking forward to seeing you fly her Tom. I am still limited on tricks... but desire to learn has not faded.  I found out she does not like the heavy wind.  Would be interested on how she acted for you... a lot of interest in this kite . 

 on: September 12, 2014, 08:33 AM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by John Lutter
Hi Ed, please try again... I just turned off the CAPTCHA box on the forms, and hopefully that helps. I'm doing this with spotty Wi-Fi, so please bear with me... Mel works in the AKA office from 12-3PM Pacific time if you continue to have issues.

 on: September 12, 2014, 08:26 AM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by etully
Still not working for me either John.  The attempt I made just now with your link is my fifth time over the past week and a half trying to renew my membership.  The submit button is not active, ie. nothing happens when it is selected. 


 on: September 12, 2014, 08:08 AM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by John Lutter
I'm sorry you are having issues with the website. This is the exact link to where you would need to register:

I just went there, and the web form comes up. It may take a few seconds for the proper form to load from Paypal, so give it a bit of time. I am a web developer and do take care of the website whenever I can. As you can imagine, as President, I do have other duties, so if you need something immediately contact Mel at :

We ARE currently re-designing our new member and renewal processes, but its not just a flip-the-switch type of thing, so please bear with us as we go through it.

I am currently at the kite festival in Dieppe France until Sept 16th, and the time difference is a killer at the moment, but if I can help, I will.

 on: September 12, 2014, 01:18 AM 
Started by Tim P. - Last post by kiteking
I recommend calling Mel also, and I highly recommend going to the convention. You will be impressed at what you will be exposed to. Take some of the workshops, introduce yourself, fly, have fun. What a great way to join the AKA and the kiting community....Welcome to my addiction   

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