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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2013, 05:43 PM »

Thanks Jonathan and Kevin for what looks like a fun kite and a collaborative graphics effort. 

Jonathan, I also appreciate the CAD files.  Even though I suspect I'll go with Kevin's graphic layout, it is nice to be able to format for U.S. print sizes (36 inches wide) opposed to the A0 format.  While I'm happy either way, it sometimes confuses the folks at my local printer.  Thanks again, I'm currently moving (again!) and look forward to my next house, as I think I'll have a dedicated kite space... the biggest and best I've ever had!  Then I can get moving on some projects I've had waiting. 

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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2013, 12:41 AM »

Great! My space is half of a 15 sqm room Cheesy, and also shares with electronics Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2013, 02:08 AM »

Ooh!  Just logged in after a couple of days absence.

Jonathon, thanks for updating the files with the newer graphic - you didn't need to credit me, I wouldn't have come up with the modification without your original design, so it's still your design  Smiley

Yes, I drew over a printout of your original plan, I didn't recreate it.  I made a mistake when cutting out, but didn't realize until I read your comment about 26 panels.  Thankfully I hadn't sewn anything, BUT peeling some of the sail apart and installing the correct panels was a painstaking process.

However, this does also mean the updated plan isn't exactly the same as my colour samples.  Panel B should extend through panel G.  (This was the mistake I made when cutting the panels originally.)  SORRY!!!  Sad

I'm hoping to get a few hours on the project tomorrow.  Pics to follow
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 05:43 AM »

Ooh!  Just logged in after a couple of days absence.

Jonathon, thanks for updating the files with the newer graphic - you didn't need to credit me, I wouldn't have come up with the modification without your original design, so it's still your design  Smiley


I  thought it was correct to credit you :-)

Hope that your project proceeds without problems :-) I'm curious to see how it will look in air :-)
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2013, 08:27 PM »

Here is a PNG file you can use for choosing colour combinations in MS Draw



Right click and "Save Image as" (Ctrl + click on a Mac)

or if you prefer, a CDR (Corel Draw) version can be downloaded from HERE

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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2013, 03:30 AM »

Should I add this in dropbox?  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2013, 03:36 AM »

Should I add this in dropbox?  Smiley

Yes, that's a good idea.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2013, 05:32 AM »

The internal message service is down so i post here the reply about standoffs:

"The lenght of the standoff is meant "carbon-only" so with the connectors the distance beetween lower-spreader axys and sail is much more than the pure standoff lenght. What type of sail connectors are you using? I'm using r-sky ones that are 1-1.5 cm longher than jaco for example. If you are using jaco i suggest you to increase the lenght of 15mm. Sorry that I forgot to mention that the sail connectors i used where r-sky ones

Again for the upper spreader the lenght is carbon only and the distance from the nose of the upper connector is the distance from nose axys to bottom of the apa, maybe this is the cause of the problem (the upper TAPAs are too low)"
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2013, 08:53 AM »

maybe it is more useful to give the distance from sail to lowerspreader instead of the carbonlength

(i will build a lilith ul and i will be using other apa's, so it would be useful for me)



right now i'm clicking and clicking using kevin's template...



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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2013, 05:41 PM »

Waiting for light winds...

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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2013, 07:48 PM »

Very sexy Kevin  Cheesy Looking forward to your report Smiley

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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2013, 12:39 AM »

Very beautiful. It looks great with this panel layout

Only a note: the lower spreader TAPAs seems 10-15 mm too low, just make sure that , like the upper spreader, the distance is taken from the bottom of the apa to the spine axys on the top of the nose.

3pt spreaders :-) ?
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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2013, 02:28 AM »

My mistake... I had the centre of the TAPAs at the measured distance.   Embarrassed  Amazing what a difference that small amount makes.

I've corrected that, and have added 1cm to each standoff (using Jaco fittings).  Looking really good, just got to wait for light winds.
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2013, 03:36 AM »

It can be pushed up to 18kmh winds without destroying and still being controllable, but tricks are difficult over 15kmh because it is a UL-SUL hybrid. Waiting to hear your impressions and, eventually, a video :-)
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2013, 04:05 AM »

looking great kevin!


so all the measurements from jonathan are correct?  Smiley



i'm trying to make a nice colorcombination, i already discovered the panellayout is very suitable for those medium pieces of scrap-icarex  Grin


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