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« on: August 22, 2013, 02:22 PM »

well, I went to the beach today to fly my new Sky Burner Freestylist and must say I had a blast with that kite Grin ended up with some really nice strong winds, probably 12+ mph and thats just a guess, could have been more, but I decided after flying the Freestylist for a couple hours to fly the Prism Nexus, I like the speed and agility of this kite,, but due to its light weight frame I was experiencing some pretty BAD wing shudder,, anyone have recommendations on maybe other kites that offer this kind of speed and agility without the shudder ? Has anyone re-framed this kite with say the Skyshark frames ? I checked Sky Burner and they dont really have a Kite this size,, maybe the Ocius may be an alternative although I know thats quite a bit bigger then the Nexus,, I thought about a Micron but that frame is even lighter yet  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 03:30 PM »

R Sky NFX sports.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 03:39 PM »

Looking for speed or tricks?
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 03:40 PM »

If the wings are shuddering then the kite is being overpowered - 12mph ( probably more in the gusts) is the point where you need to adjust the kites bridle.   You need to adjust the nose to tip further back - make the uphaul line longer - so the sail catches less wind. The Nexus is rated up to 22mph so it can take a pretty strong wind. It's probably not really worth spending money on reframing with Skyshark as it will probably cost nearly as much as the kite, also fitting a stiffer frame maight also have a bad effect on the way the kite flies - a stiffer frame isn't always better.

If you want a proper high wind (20mph+ ) kite thats small, fast, and reasonably cheap look at the HQ Delta Hawk - it doesn't trick but it's a lot of fun.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 04:04 PM »

Looking for speed or tricks?
mostly speed and quickness, not necessarily tricks in this application  Grin


Mike, I see links to the right for sites who sell the R Sky kites, but nothing listed for the NFX sport  Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 04:11 PM »

If the wings are shuddering then the kite is being overpowered - 12mph ( probably more in the gusts) is the point where you need to adjust the kites bridle.   You need to adjust the nose to tip further back - make the uphaul line longer - so the line catches less wind. The Nexus is rated up to 22mph so it can take a pretty strong wind. It's probably not really worth spending money on reframing with Skyshark as it will probably cost nearly as much as the kite, also fitting a stiffer frame maight also have a bad effect on the way the kite flies - a stiffer frame isn't always better.

If you want a proper high wind (20mph+ ) kite thats small, fast, and reasonably cheap look at the HQ Delta Hawk - it doesn't trick but it's a lot of fun.

Thank you sir for your response,, I must admit I am somewhat new to the serious aspect of stunt kites  Wink I DID adjust the bridal on the Freestylist, it came set at the highest ( closest to the upper leading edge} to the middle setting but was still getting some sail "chatter" ,, do you think if I had it at the lowest point , which would have put the top edge back further, that would have helped ? I still have alot to learn about tuning kites,, on the Nexus,  I probably do need to check my bridal, theres a larkshead knot but seems to have slid up on the bridal to the top,, any recommendations are always appreciated  Wink I may have to head back over there tomorrow , had a blast today !!
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 04:32 PM »

ok, so I just went out into the garage and looked at the bridal on the Nexus, the knot was set in the middle, I'm sure from the factory, I was able to figure out how to spread the knot and lower it then retighten,, such a rookie  Cheesy tuning seems to be a critical aspect in certain winds  Grin still would be interested in any recommendations for quick/responsive higher end kites  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 05:33 PM »

ok, so I just went out into the garage and looked at the bridal on the Nexus, the knot was set in the middle, I'm sure from the factory, I was able to figure out how to spread the knot and lower it then retighten,, such a rookie  Cheesy tuning seems to be a critical aspect in certain winds  Grin
You are on your way to a kite tuning expert.  Grin

still would be interested in any recommendations for quick/responsive higher end kites  Wink

This is a specialty area. I have the HQ Fazer speed kite. Fun but pulls harder as the wind picks up.  I have some old school kites but the are no longer in production. not sure if it helps to list them.  You could also look at small (1.2 or 1.4) dual line foils from HQ, Prism and others.  Stay small as they can pick up a lot of pull in higher winds. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2013, 05:38 PM »

A micron is blast in higher wins. I also have jet stream speed, alien and some psychos more for speed then tricks.
I also just got a deepspace vent and love it!
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 10:13 PM »

Psycho on 50ft lines.  Cheesy  Or shorter Shocked  Lots of coffee
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 12:35 AM »

High wind- low (ish) costs (around $100)- fast - big fun = Delta Hawk.....think Psychotic Micron that wants to tear your arms off!

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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 06:34 AM »

those hemp rods that prism used for a while had a good shudder in them......but they were bomb proof!!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 09:44 AM »


I also just got a deepspace vent and love it!

Tell is more please  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 06:12 PM »


I also just got a deepspace vent and love it!

Tell is more please  Grin
A true joy in higher wind (15mph ish). It doesn't quite hold a fade as well as the std but that is to be expected. Other then that it picks up where my std leaves off and keeps going.  I would fly the std with wind brakes on it before but not anymore.
More on topic for this thread; You might consider a wind brake or waa pad for the nexus.  But when the nexus I have flown start to shudder then it's generally time for a micron.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 11:44 AM »

well, I went to the beach today to fly my new Sky Burner Freestylist and must say I had a blast with that kite Grin

How do you kite your Freestylist?
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