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« on: August 30, 2013, 02:00 PM »

It,s a simple question,
wich spars are suiteable for a sul sixth sense?
Im thinking about a 2pt lower spreader, p100/ p90 spine, 4 mm structil upper spreader and 2pt leading edges. spinaker for leading edge.

Good idea or is there someone with a better idea?  if you do please tell me!
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 02:48 PM »

I think everything sounds correct.  Maybe I would offer using a 2PT 40 for spine to maintain a one piece spine to reduce weight of ferrule and improved strength?
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 03:25 PM »

goo idea! tapered side up to the nose, so there is room for a weighted tail Grin
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 04:20 PM »

You might want to consider using a 1PX rod for the LLE rod instead of a 2PT for added strength at the wing tips ....and the minimal extra weight (4 grams per 32.5" rod) on the wing tips might help in doing rotation tricks and others! Just a thought!
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 05:44 PM »

It's a well balanced kite, I think 2pt all around would work well.  I'd use something heavier in the spine, of course. 

Do you have a UL?   I have a standard and it flys well very low, I would think that the UL goes quite low. 

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 05:46 AM »

I've noticed  that the kites both the std and the ul have a very low bottom range. The reasen that i want to build a sul is because i have some lightweight cloth lying around for some time.

About the 1px for lle, It's my goal to make it as light as possilble. I have forgotten that you need some weight for trickability.

I am open to suggestions! please share you're opion!
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 10:19 PM »

You could also use Avia Skinny ULs, which i personally like a lot more then the skysharks.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 11:31 AM »

hmmm, already thought about it, but to expensive for me Embarrassed Embarrassed,
even thought about the zero air from skyshark but with the same result
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 08:35 PM »

Is your intent to fly it indoors?  If the kite will fly in no wind (or very little perceivable wind), making it lighter will only compromise it's ability to handle a gust or mild wind... even a gentle one.  If I were you, I'd build it 2PT leading edges, P90 spine and 4mm upper spreader and 3pt lower spreaders.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 03:41 AM »

Is your intent to fly it indoors?  If the kite will fly in no wind (or very little perceivable wind), making it lighter will only compromise it's ability to handle a gust or mild wind... even a gentle one.  If I were you, I'd build it 2PT leading edges, P90 spine and 4mm upper spreader and 3pt lower spreaders.

My goal isn't indoor flying, it's for those rare moments that my ul is failing. Thank you for reminding about the fragility off a to lite build


just a sneak peak Wink

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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2013, 04:00 AM »

cool!

also nice: one panel in the centre in stead of two


sugarbaker's frame makes sense to me (2pt lower spreaders is too weak)


a german guy framed it like this (he is very satisfied about it):
upper leading edge: 2PT
lower leading edge: P90
upper spreader: 5mm structil
lower spreaders: 3PT
spine: Nitro and P90

248 gr (now too low for a sul, but big surface!)
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2013, 06:29 AM »

well, i think i've got enough info to make a choice Cheesy

the leading edge's are going to be 2p's because i,ve already got them and a p100 spine. the upperspreader is going to be 5 mm structil. For lowerspreaders 3pt's.
The leading edge's from spinaker and if possible all apa connectors tiny.

I'm also wandering if its possible and smart to use 2mm carbon for the stand off's
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2013, 12:11 PM »

also nice: one panel in the centre in stead of two

I stole this idea for my Lilith! Looks nice and different.
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2013, 01:34 PM »

there's no bigger compliment than copying!

But can't wait to see some pics Krijn!
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2013, 12:05 PM »

It's done!!! well all most.....
Still need to fit some jojo stoppers and a rub patch

Frame:
2p leading egde's, 2pt spine, 3pt lower spreaders, 5mm structil upper spreader, 2mm stand off's and 12 grams tail weight
All the apa's are tiny



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