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« on: October 04, 2013, 12:02 AM »

As some of you know, I'm interested in the history of kites, especially early dual-liners. In the UK, in the 1970s, we saw Peter Powell bring dual-line kite-flying to the masses, and very soon after Dunford Flying Machines and Cambridge Combats came on the market. These last two didn't leave any 'descendents', but the Peter Powell Stunter was soon followed by a host of similar kites (e.g. Barnstormer, Red Arrow, Aero-Kite, Skite, etc).

What happened in the US? Did it also start with Peter Powell? And if so, what came on the market in its wake? I know of the Glite which would have preceded the PP, and I know of the Trlby, which I assume came a bit later, but what other US-made dual-line kites were on the market in the 1970s?
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 03:07 AM »


Over here in the 70's I've seen mention that we had 17 models available by the late 1970's, these are the ones I've been able to confirm through old articles and advertisements. Peter Powell's, Dunton's, Sky Cat's, Sky Tiger's, Wind Jammer's, Sky-Ro-Gyro's, Aerobat's, Marble Head Stunt Kites, Dynotrol's, Flexifoil's, Rainbow's, Skynasaur's, Glite's, Hi Flier's Super Stunter, and Spectra Star had 3 stunt kite models. A couple more possibly available in the 1970's but for sure in the early 1980's were the Hyperkite's & Dynakites.

Didn't the Dunford predate the Peter Powell?

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 03:47 AM »

Great stuff; thanks!!

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Didn't the Dunford predate the Peter Powell?

The thorny issue ... I'm trying to get specific information on that from both Peter Powell and Cochranes (who marketed the Dunford FM). What seems certain is that the Dunford FM was developed prior to the PP, but the little bit of info I have so far suggests that it came on the market very soon after Peter Powell became successful. If that indeed proves correct, who came first depends on what stage you pick: development or sales.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 04:09 AM »

We also had the Sky Command Remote Control Stunt Kite by Remco available in 1969, same year the Glite came out.

I see Hyperkite's and TRLBY's (Ace in England) first mentioned in 1981, Then in October of 1982 I see Don Tabor holding what appears to be a Hawaiian at the AKA convention in Detroit.

Would you be interested in the Forum's Sport Kite History as narrated by Al Hargus? There's also a history by Ron Reich available in the archives at Kitelife.com or from me. Or pic's of those first stunters from 1969, the Glite's or Sky Commander's?

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 04:16 AM »

Definite 'yes' to all those sources / photos you mention! Please, let me know how to get them.

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I assume 'remote control' doesn't mean radio / wireless here?

I do have a Glite, by the way, but am not familiar with the Sky Command.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 07:09 AM »

Just found a few pics of the Sky Command kite. It's a three-liner!
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 09:57 AM »

By the way, the Ace here (equivalent of Trlby) was around at least in 1978, as it's mentioned in Ron Moulton's book "Kites", which was published in 1978. So I assume/guess the Trlby was from the late 1970s as well?
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 11:23 PM »

Probably if you have it in Moulton's book, I have the book but last night my only source was Kite Lines magazine. I just did a quick scan for mentions or advertisements to come up with a time period. I've worked on and off trying to tie hundreds of sources of information together and it's a daunting task to say the least. I've copied nearly every article, blog, forum thread or picture I've run across.

Anyway shoot me an email on PM where you can recieve a 5 meg zip file, or I can load it up on my ftp site. The Ron Reich memoirs I don't publicly share since they are from KiteLife.com (you'll get it) but Steve lets me share the Al Hargus thread from the old Forum since it exists now only in his and my database and a few others I've passed it along to.  You'll need Microsoft Word for this one, I'll send you PDF's if you'd rather (I hate'em and some people have had issues with mine)

Any interest in SLK's? Here's a site I did on the Sauls Barrage Kite when I had the pleasure of assisting Harry's wife Edna to donate his memorabilia and record an interview with Ali Fujino for the Drachen Foundation. What an interesting man, he was close friends with Dr. Paul Garber (I know you know his history), Francis Rogallo and Domina Jalbert, the people responsible for the basic designs of the kites we enjoy today. It's unclear if Harry influenced them or they influenced him but you see the same principles used in Harry's designs as were used in their designs. http://www.sysmatrix.net/~mikenchico/Sauls.htm

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