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« on: January 11, 2014, 08:41 PM »

   So with this weather were having it has made me start looking for a glider kite. I have checked out a few videos and love how relaxing it is to watch them fly.

   I really like how slow the Feather Glider fly's but there is no color on the sail. I was wondering if you could use different colored highlighters to put some color on it or would that damage the sail?

   I seen a video posted somewhere of a guy that was flying a glider inside and someone commented that the kite made it to the third level. If you know of a video like this could you please direct me towards it.

   What are some of your favorite gliders and why?

                                                            Thank you
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 08:57 PM »

Prism Zero g and will's sturdys chiropetra (which is probably spelled wrong). They both float and glide in zero or no wind but both will fly in just a slight wind.  Both take a different light touch then say a dual line
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 11:01 PM »

I would have to say the  ITW Skate, zeroG and horvath hybrid are my top 3.  Wala XL and ITW Hydra if you want to go big.  Indoor only I would go for the I elite or skate.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 11:06 PM »

    If you know of a video like this could you please direct me towards it.
 


http://s246.photobucket.com/user/rxburner/media/2passWindless_Movie1_Full.mp4.html#/user/rxburner/media/2passWindless_Movie1_Full.mp4.html?&_suid=138951041290609628514164063898

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 09:26 AM »

Have to be  either an  Emong indoor and out, in light breeze, or one of Karl Longbottoms creations ,A Petrodactyl, again indoor / out  almost damage proof( I have seen one flown straight onto the floor at speed,nil damage) or his new 7-81.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHipWymQCSE
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 03:44 PM »

hi truerookie
Feathers do come in colored version..... Clear skin is very lightly painted in reds or blues (fire or ice).... And both sides of the feather come in this option....(BTW fire and ices in both sizes arriving in the states soon)

You have a few choices..... They range from cheap (making your own Borelli glider) up to the zen gliders that range a couple of hundred bucks for less than an ounce..... And of course bigger kites like a Morpho Grande in painted cuben fiber for 5000$.....

The are lots of flat kites delta shaped like the iFlite, the chiroptera, horvath's kites.... and three  dimensional kites like the plutz gliders from Ceewan's and Karl Longbottom's pterodactyls...
So you have lots of options...
Some kites glide better... and some climb better and are more active flyers..... Your preference is important....
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 04:15 PM »

I really like my iFlites (I&II) indoors. Very easy to fly indoors. The small ones are good for tight spaces. The larger one needs more room to turn, but glides forever. Both a very good value.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 07:25 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 07:27 PM »

well it did that time not sure why
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 03:59 AM »

It wont let me post


did you provide your daily sacrifice of burning a chinese copy of a revolution?   that might have caused the hiccup Wink
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 05:32 PM »

Horvath videos.  Too bad there's such lousy scenery Smiley
http://www.horvath.ch/en/movies-kites.html
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 08:54 PM »

 That's funny Thief.  i see it let me post today

Thank you all for the links to the videos. Thief do you know who will sell the colored Feathers? You can PM me the info.

  Right now I'm leaning towards the Skate or a Horvath plus a i-flight or a feather. I'm guessing  I should have at least two indoor gliders....Right....LOL

  What I am looking for is a long gliding kite that has the potential to slowly climb higher and higher then watch it as it gracefully floats towards the ground.

  Once again I thank you for the help,
                                                   Mike
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 11:49 PM »

Having flown all the kites mentioned this thread, save the longbottom, morpho, and feather, my two cents would be thus;

Without spending an arm and a leg, the chiroptera for flight characteristics can't be beat. Best in 0-2mph, 3 and up it buffets and doesn't climb well. Launching and relaunching takes a bit of practice given the shape. Under 3, in the right conditions, and weighted correctly (mine has 30 cents in the nose), you could glide 150' from one side of the window to the other no problem on a 75' line. Is quite amazing. Glide ratio better than any I've seen.

If you have extra arms and legs, the long way home by horvath.ch is equal to the chiroptera in impressiveness, but with different characteristics. Is much larger, much more expensive, can rotate more quickly, can handle more wind, can be flown as a single liner when no others will stay airborn, looks incredible in the sky, can realistically tow more line for higher flights, but trades a bit of glide ratio (a miniscule amount, but just enough to notice). Unparalleled construction quality.

In my opinion, there's a substantial performance gap between these kites and the rest.

Iflight is great for places you can't normally fly a kite. Well worth having.

If you could find one, a focus manta is a great huge kite but likes to fly in straight lines, takes much more line feeding, and drops more quickly, but is a sight to behold as it slowly glides by. With altitude, capable of huge glides. As far as i know, the ITW version doesn't have the brass weight the focus version comes with, but nor do i know it's as critical as on the focus version either.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 12:18 AM »

a quick note on flying gliders:

good gliders can be manhandled all day long, and in some designs, require it. you fly it the whole time. if you're not manipulating the line (even if it's just tension), it's stops flying.

great gliders, are easy to overpower with your inputs and make them feel no better than a good glider. great gliders however, will reward the pilot substantially once you've established a feel for the kite and its body language. it's a subtle conversation where (figuratively speaking) a wink or a slight nod is enough to convey intent. the kites will react to incredibly minute inputs. it's much more of a two-way experience, where the kite tells you quietly but precisely what it feels from the wind, and you provide it with a suggestion of motion, rather than a mandate. it's a cooperative experience, and a very rewarding one as you can feel as if you're talking to the wind directly, with the kite as an interpreter. touch the line like you would touch a woman after midnight, and it will open up to you similarly.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 01:53 AM »

Such the poet.  Smiley
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