hq shadow or skyburner widow maker ?

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[Hadge]

Originally you said you wanted a kite that would fly in any wind ( or none) and you weren't too bothered about tricks.

Finding one kite that will fly in any wind say 0-20mph isn't really going to happen - it's like asking for a car that has supercar performance and handling, is good off road, lots of room for kids and luggage and cheap on fuel and insurance!

You need to find out what sort of wind range you are really looking at.

A kite that will fly in zero wind is going to be ( generally) fragile, expensive and will need putting away after about 5mph.

The Shadow is fairly tough for what it is, but it does need a little wind to fly. Realistically you are looking at 2-8mph but it is reasonably cheap and flies well.

A 'standard' kite will fly from around 5mph to around 20mph ( that is flying not tricking), an Ultralite from 3/4mph - 12/15mph.

The Prism 4D 'in theory' will fly from 0-15mph - it will certainly do zero, but I'm not sure how pleasent it would be to fly at 15mph as it's getting pretty fast and twitchy at 6mph! but it has a very flexible frame so it would be hard to break and it packs down very small so handy to take out anywhere. I'm not sure I'd really recommend it on it's own though.

Maybe something like the 4D for low wind and a standard for the rest?

Probably the best thing if you can would be to talk to other fliers in your area and see what they use.

[harveystubbs]

hi all,
i live in land country side and area is hilly and winds are un ruly but i fly on the flats around the area.

infact the lack of winds at times really sh1ts me!

i want a kite that i can pull out at any time to fly wind or no wind!

been lurking around here lately and have come up with 2 kite choices.
the hq shadow or the skyburner window maker !

thinking of going a standard frame over a ultra lite.
so out of the 2 kites mentioned above which would be the better all round kite and be able to keep it in the air the longest with little ease ?

which is the faster of the 2 kites and may be more precise please ?

is there much difference in build quality between the 2 ?

im not really into tricks but more free style flying of cruising around the wind window!

r.e color scheme,i like the idea with the skyburner widow you can customise your colors of the sail and was thinking of ordering a all black color with 2 orange panels on each side,how would  that look in the sky ?

thanks in advance fellas,much appreciated and look forward to your replies.

The wm is a great all rounder for light/ medium winds. I wouldn't go for the shadow.

[kite_pilot]

what does "am" stand for mate ?

[jaydub]

I think it's a typo and "am" is meant to be "wm".

[harveystubbs]

I think it's a typo and "am" is meant to be "wm".

Sorry ... Amended

[thief]

oh but if you can find a peter betancourt AM1 it is a top notch SUL sport kite!!!!

[kite_pilot]

ok thanks guys!

[JimB]

I've only flown the Widowmaker UL once, but was mightly impressed.

Very balanced betwen flying and tricking.

Terrific low end, although by no means Zero wind-capable unless you train like a decathlete.