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« on: April 06, 2014, 11:08 PM »

hi guys,
i first got into the sport of stunt kite flying when prism were big and bold and very popular and had plenty or range of different kites availble!
infact when i first looked into kites the word Prism came up on google!
so the question is why have prism seem to gone all quiet with no real new desgins come out any more?
they had some reall cool designs like illusion 2000 and elixr e.c.t.
whats your thoughts of prism of then and now ?
do you think they will bring out some new designs/models in the future ?
are they still leaders in the industry if you could say that ?
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 11:50 PM »

Hello kite_pilot,

In a word to answer your What Happened question, I would simply say money.

Mark Reed realized that the company could only grow and be profitable if he

sold a lot of low cost kites. To that end he now has many lower cost kites which

may be purchased at both kite stores and REI stores throughout the USA.

Prism is probably the leader in profitability, not high end sport kites.

Could Mark Reed design and put out another quality kite? YES

But he would sell less than 500 of them. Even if they were as popular as the Nirvana,

the company would be much smaller.

Mark is a kite designer, but he is also an excellent businessman. Profit comes from

selling a lot of low cost imports, sadly.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 03:53 AM »

Having a big company sell lots of lower end kites isn't all bad.  It brings many people into the sport who would not enter if it was all about high end kites. 
I got engaged with a Prism Jazz and then added a Nexus and then a Hypnotist. 
Now I have a two from Flying Wings, one from Sky Dog and my favorite, my Deep Space (bought used on this site).
I was a cyclist for decades.  The mass produced, less expensive, entry bikes are where most start.  Some get the fever and some don't.

I still carry my Prism kites to the field most of the time.  There may be someone there who is interested in flying. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 04:03 AM »

John pretty much hit the nail on the head. My first kite was a Prism Ion and that got me hooked. It was a good introduction to kites and my second kite was a Prism Flashlight for low wind. And I stayed hooked. After that I got into the high end kites and I never looked back. So Prism is playing a great role in getting people to try out the hobby and hopefully they'll get sucked into it and keep the high end craftsmen in business.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 06:43 AM »

My very first Prism kite is the Fanatic dated back 2001, and I learnt my very first axel and 540 with that kite.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 07:02 AM »

Mark and his team also decided to rebrand the lines a bit too....and putting their kites into outdoor shops shows that....
he is now really designing kites that are easily transportable, and fly well....in hopes that everyone going into the outdoors will decide to bring along a kite to fly....if you look at the advertisement pictures you will see that the kites are very easy to tie onto a backpack to carry without adding too much weight..
having their sport kites break down mid LE is also a easy way to make someone choose to carry their sport kite along on a trip too....never know when you might get to fly....

I remember when the Prism lines were first brought into REI that hit the small kite shops pretty hard as we counted on some of their stuff to bring in newer customers....and to create a strong relationship that would extend past the first kite...but losing that first kite purchase did make some people never step into a kite shop after their first kite (when they might have come in for pieces, training or a new kite)..i do not think that REI has any sort of Sport Kite flying training - it might help their sales if they did though.....
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 10:07 AM »

I understand that they have gone for the mass produced end of the market as a business strategy and I don't have a problem with that.

However they make some high end stuff too which desperately needs updating. Just one new, AMERICAN MADE freestyle kite model would be great and would cause a buzz. They only have the Quantum pro and the zephyr at the high end and both of these are old (and chinese) or really old. Such a shame.

I actually quite like the zeph but the set up is not great and craves a bit of tuning.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2014, 02:13 PM »

[...] Mark is a kite designer, but he is also an excellent businessman.

... and Mark Reed is also a great "planes builder"...  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2014, 01:07 PM »

The Prism forum used to be a very active place with a great community of Prism fans as well always keen to help a new person enter the sport not sure how active it is now.
I notice that the forum is in archive now , no further postings, a shame. Dean Parssons (Groundeffect) was very active on the forum and helped me greatly in the early yeas,  I've tried to contact him a few times in recent years without any success..

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2014, 08:26 PM »

hi guys
thanks for your thoughts and info on prism!
cheers
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2014, 07:41 PM »

The Prism forum used to be a very active place with a great community of Prism fans as well always keen to help a new person enter the sport not sure how active it is now.
I notice that the forum is in archive now , no further postings, a shame. Dean Parssons (Groundeffect) was very active on the forum and helped me greatly in the early yeas,  I've tried to contact him a few times in recent years without any success..

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I contacted Prism regarding their forum and apparently they caught an un fixable bug which forces the forum to go into archive mode. They said come fall they're planning on creating a brand new forum and shut down the old.

Fingers crossed because I had a great time on there and learned a lot that was Prism specific. Specially during my early years and living in Seattle.

Then i found this forum and blended the information between the best of both worlds.

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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2014, 04:16 AM »

The Prism forum used to be a very active place with a great community of Prism fans as well always keen to help a new person enter the sport not sure how active it is now.
I notice that the forum is in archive now , no further postings, a shame. Dean Parssons (Groundeffect) was very active on the forum and helped me greatly in the early yeas,  I've tried to contact him a few times in recent years without any success..

Steve

Prism has a Facebook page, and I posted on there a few months ago about the forum and the fact a person couldn't even sign up anymore.  Someone from Prism, replied that he was now responsible for the forum, and would have that issue fixed. They took it down for about a month, and when it came back up, it was in archive mode, and it still is. I think they have no interest in reactivating the forum, which I would bet, has some effect on their sales.
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