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« on: June 30, 2009, 04:16 PM »

I've read about some celluar, and even fighter kites, made in the 90's with this nearly transparent material.

Is there a source, or substitute, still available for this kind of material?

Any published tips for working with it?

I was looking for the lighter looking kind of prismatic film, without too much heavy webbing running through it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 05:10 PM »

Check out Hang-em High for this film and other fabrics.  I've never used it before so I can't help you there. Maybe  check out some fighter kite web sites, too. Sent links to your e-mail.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 06:18 PM »

Used on dual line kites also ... Soopa Fly comes to mind ... I know there were more ...
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 08:15 PM »

I found a reference in Kitelines Spring-Summer '97: The LAZER fighter by Stan Swanson of Mile High Kites made of PRIZMAFILM.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 10:05 PM »

If memory serves, Prismatex was created by Stan Swanson, of the Condor Kite Company. It came in a few different thicknesses. I've got a Fighter made with the thinner Prismatex and Paul Horner made a Prismatex Cody and Poster Genki with a Dragonfly and owns one of Cathy Goodwind's Super Novas out of the heavier Prismatex with the reinforcing grid:


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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 10:19 PM »

I found a reference in Kitelines Spring-Summer '97: The LAZER fighter by Stan Swanson of Mile High Kites made of PRIZMAFILM.

That must be the one I have. Bambu spine, carbon bow, totally clear film until you move it and it sparkles. :-)

I also had a Griffin duallie with prismatex center panels. Kind of a waste on that one.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 10:39 PM »

Goodwinds used to stock Prismatex. It was pretty expensive and care needed to be taken when sewing, as it tended to tear along the dotted line. The best method that I heard was to apply a thin strip of Insignia Tape the width of the seam to reinforce the seams.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 04:21 AM »

I found detailed info from Swanson about Prizmafilm and Prizmatex  in the rec.kite group archive from years ago. It looks likes it's all gone now.

Something like the thinner Prizmafilm is what I'm looking for. I wonder if the "Holographic Laser Film" offered at Hang em High is a good substitute? Is it clear or silvery? Heavy or light?

(it would be great to see a shot of that Super Nova sunlit in the air!  Roll Eyes )
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2009, 07:41 AM »

It's very hard to get a photo of the Laser Fighter in flight- it's very speedy and goes from invisible to blinding flashes of colour in the blink of an eye.

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I don't seem to have a good photo of the Super Nova in the air. Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 08:48 AM »

digging around the rec.kites archives brought this up:
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>I was wondering if there were tinted or foiled mylar laminates available for
>kiting applications?


As a matter of fact there is and it is called Prizmatex.  Stan Swanson Patented
the stuff several years ago.  It comes in two weights.  Both are laminates.
The lighter weight one is available in 45" width ($15.00 per yard) and the
heavier one is available in 54" ($20.00 per yard)  I have both in stock.
Several years ago my son made one of our Super Nova's out of the light weight
stuff.  I was flying it at AVI about two years ago.  Long about 5:00pm some
lady comes running across the lawn yelling at me "I found you"!!  Turns out she
and her husband had been driving around and around the desert looking for this
shining star in the desert.  Doesn't look like much when you are the flyer but
when you are the viewer, even afar, your socks get knocked off!!
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 09:20 AM »

@SKB -- cool shots! Those must be from the era of "Chef Paul" given the hair style. 

Kinda like our host here, too.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2009, 10:36 AM »

I'll have to take my Laser Fighter off the wall and give it another go. Years ago the spine broke and I replaced it with microcarbon, but it doesn't like to fly flat. IIRC the spine was maybe laminated to hold a bend. I've got a bunch of spine material...

 The kite hangs in my cubicle next to some tissue Indian fighters as sort of an old/new contrast.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009, 11:17 AM »

The Laser Fighter's  laminated spine is about 3.5mm (0.14") thick x 5.4 mm (0.21") wide with about 11mm (0.45") bend in it, starting where the bow crosses the spine.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 11:58 AM »

Thanks Steve.  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 05:49 PM »

Thanx for all the cool looking kite pix - I wish the Prizmafilm was still available!
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