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Author Topic: why some kites have wing tip knock lines across to the tail ?  (Read 612 times)
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« on: May 14, 2014, 10:41 PM »

hi all,
just wandering why some kite brands have string lines atached from leading edge knock to the tail section and back to the other side of the wing knock ?
whats the reason behind this r.e performance of the kite please ?
does it help to keep the shape in the kite or some thing ?
thanks
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 10:54 PM »

Very few, if any modern kites have this "trick line". In the old days it was generally put there to keep flying lines and the bridle from snagging on the tail and wingtips while doing "radical" tricks. In some cases it was used to pull in the wingtips, further tensioning the frame and sail to some degree.

In a lot of cases the line can be removed with no worries. In some cases the bridle is long enough to frequently catch on the tail. In those cases a "keeper" line is added to the bridle so it can't sag that far down. Some old kites are really hard to clear tip wraps on, and these really benefit from a trick line.

Trick lines almost always negatively effect how a kite behaves in a backflip, for lazy suzies and such. There were a number of kites made with "M" shaped trick lines to try to help the kite on it's back.

Changes to bridle designs, better LE designs and such made trick lines anachronistic over ten years ago. Mainly people just learned how to fly without tipwraps and such
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 02:06 AM »

hi allen,
thanks for your reply! Smiley
didnt benson kites have a trick line added at one stage ?
any others ?
does benson kites still make kites ?
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 04:30 AM »

A lot of trick kites had them in the early 2000's but as Allen has said they are no longer used.

Yes, Tim Benson is still making and selling kites - I'm not sure if I can put a direct link here so just put 'Benson kites' into Google and it should bring it up.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 12:59 PM »

In some cases the line was integral to the design providing tension.

Removing it will change the way the kite flies.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 01:43 PM »

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In some cases the line was integral to the design providing tension.

Removing it will change the way the kite flies.
case in point the TrickTail (half the forum goes 'the WHAT TAIL???') Grin
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 01:50 PM »

In some cases the line was integral to the design providing tension.

Removing it will change the way the kite flies.

and thinking that you should be tightening the trick line down more can take a nice flying kite and make it fly like crap....
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2014, 06:48 AM »

Very true.
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