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Author Topic: Dual Line New Flyer... What to Practice?  (Read 849 times)
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« on: June 14, 2014, 06:43 PM »

Is there a suggested series of dual line kite maneuvers to practice in a certain order to build proficiency? I don't mind lots of practice on one particular thing before moving on. I just don't know what those maneuvers might be and in what order.

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 07:28 PM »

Dodd Gross has a heap of free tutorials on YouTube. From basics to master. I am getting a lot from the "Six step system" at the moment. It's got picture in picture, and slow mo stuff.

But if you just want to fly, practice:
Ground recoveries, very good learning in the beginning.
Punch turns, where you push one hand forward and turn around a stalled wing. The return back to straight flight, neutral, is key.
Pull turns, the same as above except pulling on a wing to power up that wing.
Stalls. Practice stalls. They are key to most tricks. If you can stall well then everything else won't take as long.

I found doing figures helped with turns and straight lines. Fly a square, octagon, even figure 8's. Do them in both directions too.

Learning is as fun as you want to make it. If it starts to get a little "go hum" do some carving to get a smile back...
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 08:00 PM »

I agree, learn to feel the kite and be completely comfortable and in full control wherever it is in the window.

To me, the mother of all tricks is the half-axel.  Those inputs are the basics for everything from the comete to the taz.  Fly across,  sharp 180 degree half axel, and then do the same on the other side. 

If you can cleanly do this, then most other tricks will come relatively easily. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 08:05 PM »

The Dodd Gross videos are a terrific resource.  I have learned much from them.  The Six Steps in particular is a good place to start.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2014, 02:11 AM »

+1 to all the above.  Dodd's tutorials are a great place to start - they taught me a lot when I was starting out.

Dodd's Six Step system
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2014, 08:47 AM »

I love Dodd's tutorials. Great video. It's time for me to pick up the lines on my duals again.

Quick question, what are the kites he is flying in his 6 steps video? That is exactly the kind of sail layout I like. A curvy, flowing and color variated design. I know it's probably been out of build for years. I think that's why I like the Talon sail so much. Similar characteristics. Just curious.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2014, 08:54 AM »

Dodds videos are great.  If you have an experienced flyer to fly with would be helpful.

Just flying and trying all the things that you see in the videos.  My method, trial and error and knowing how to put the kite on the ground without breaking something.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2014, 08:55 AM »

Dodd mentions the kites while he flies,  Dynamite and M80 if I'm not mistaken.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2014, 08:58 AM »

Oh. Thanks. I was skipping through the video again.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 11:36 AM »

Quick question, what are the kites he is flying in his 6 steps video? That is exactly the kind of sail layout I like. A curvy, flowing and color variated design. I know it's probably been out of build for years. I think that's why I like the Talon sail so much. Similar characteristics. Just curious.

Dodd now designs kites for Skydog kites if you want to check our his kites now in production. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 12:13 PM »


Dodd now designs kites for Skydog kites if you want to check our his kites now in production.
Yep. I was just interested in the old sail design more so than the newer ones.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2014, 03:45 PM »

To me I don't like the NTK videos at all. Flight school back in the 90s seemed to set better with me and thats how I started to progress. After comparing them side by side I prefer the 1st editions.

Welcome to kiting! For me practicing corners and speed control seems to hit the spot. Speed espijcally with a sharp entry and exit in and out of corners with no speeding up or slowing down. This carries over moreso into tricking. Unless its in a stall, its always going somewhere so I try to focus on that. Also just flying with confidence. I always tell people to master the 'I meant to do that' face. Fly with conviction and the more sure of yourself you are, the easier it will be to try to learn new things. Just my 2 cents from a bit more of a mental approach.

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2014, 12:35 PM »

Stall - Stall - Stall

Then everything else ... stalling anywhere in the window - quckly and cleanly.

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2014, 01:35 PM »

Thanks for the tips everyone.

I've got to find some information on stalls.

Bill
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2014, 01:50 PM »

Thanks for the tips everyone.

I've got to find some information on stalls.

Bill


This is a good place to start!  Wink

http://prismkites.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1213810335

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