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Author Topic: ABS video I found very enlightening  (Read 601 times)
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« on: June 19, 2014, 08:25 PM »

Check out this control.

http://youtu.be/paaIpE6zRUQ

Sweet kite.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 04:03 AM »

Love the way this kite flies.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 06:01 AM »

what difference in flight are you seeing than any other quad line kite?
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 06:07 AM »

it is not a "see" thing, it is a "feel" thing...
I know because I have the only set....
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 06:08 AM »

what difference in flight are you seeing than any other quad line kite?

When going from forward to reverse, the transition is instantaneous, with no flipping of the wing in reverse that I can see. Of course the only way to really compare this kite to a Rev is to fly both, anything else is pure guesswork or wishful thinking.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 06:09 AM »

it is not a "see" thing, it is a "feel" thing...
I know because I have the only set....

Yes, I guess it would be nice if we could decide which new kite to buy, solely by watching a video of it flying  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 06:29 AM »

With any video of Lam flying you see Lam's flying more than whatever kite he's got. Not to say he doesn't make great kites, because he does, but it's very hard to judge the kite with some one that skillful at the controls.

The other issue with any talented kite designer flying their own design is that they not only have a ton of hours on the kite, but they designed the kite they want. Like a tailored suit, it's gonna look good.

I'm looking forward to flying an ABS, mainly because the are better looking than most Revs, not because of some mystical quality they may have.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 06:40 AM »

what difference in flight are you seeing than any other quad line kite?

When going from forward to reverse, the transition is instantaneous, with no flipping of the wing in reverse that I can see. Of course the only way to really compare this kite to a Rev is to fly both, anything else is pure guesswork or wishful thinking.
Do you use Quad Sticks on your Revs?   they tighten the kite up so it is not as flippy like that.....
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 06:41 AM »

The other issue with any talented kite designer flying their own design is that they not only have a ton of hours on the kite, but they designed the kite they want. Like a tailored suit, it's gonna look good.

and some people wondered why a Machine was valued so high Wink
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2014, 06:43 AM »

what difference in flight are you seeing than any other quad line kite?

When going from forward to reverse, the transition is instantaneous, with no flipping of the wing in reverse that I can see. Of course the only way to really compare this kite to a Rev is to fly both, anything else is pure guesswork or wishful thinking.
Do you use Quad Sticks on your Revs?   they tighten the kite up so it is not as flippy like that.....

Yes, I have been using Magic Sticks on both my Revs for about 2 months, and wouldn't fly without them. Also allows the same frame to be used in a higher wind, which is nice. I was able to master the inverted hover with the sticks, almost immediately as well as reverse flying.  
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2014, 07:52 AM »

what difference in flight are you seeing than any other quad line kite?
it's sort of like cars. They might all do the same basic things,but differences in workmanship, performance and aesthetics give you options from basic commuter to high performance sportscar.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2014, 10:07 AM »

First, I'm no Rev flyer - I've tried many times and just never had much interest. 

To me, this one feels different.  From the first flight on, I've been having fun learning to fly quads and moving on to more complex maneuvers. 

I think the major difference I think is likely due to the bridle - you can aggressively fly the kite (as most new flyers are likely to do) and easily maintain flight and control.  As I get better, I'll slow It down, smooth it out, finesse it up, but I do like being able to scream down the window, turn up a wing, and plant a tip stab with this kite.  The wings also seem more cupped - it flys very solidly with great sail pressure even in low wind.

Having said that, it is a quad - I would imagine a Rev flyer would feel right at home with it.

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2014, 11:47 AM »

Thanks Tom, I do appreciate and everyone Smiley Cheer!

Good day !
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2014, 12:17 PM »

Looks great. I am a novice Rev flier and would be interested in flying one because I'm not wedded to the Rev yet, but knowing Lam's quality I don't think I could afford jumping into one. I would love to be able to try one out. I will say that the convenience of packing up the Rev is pretty hard to beat. Curious about the leaders. Did they only have one knot? Assuming that is Lam's preference  in the video and you could adjust any way you like. I hate the pig rings though. Would live to see snag less.
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