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« on: June 20, 2014, 01:34 AM »

hi all,
just cant seem to win when it comes to inland wheather!
its either dead calm or flat out windy!
i came across a hq delta hawk kite for high winds.
does any one have this kite pls ?
whats the quality/build like ?
or is it better to buy a upmarket brand that is vented ?
not ready to buy any thing yet as i lost my job 2 days ago but just wandering for the future thats all! Sad
i wish i lived near a beach for smooth consitant 5 mph winds all day! Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 03:31 AM »

Ooohhh yes, the Delta Hawk is great fun!  It isn't a trick kite and from 10-mid teens MPH it's actually a nice little kite to fly...but when the winds hit 20mph the fun really starts. From 20mph it just gets faster and faster and pulls like a truck, don't be fooled by it's small size - 150cm- in a 25mph+ wind it will try and rip your arms off and it will try and drag you around the  field/beach like a rag doll.  I use 220lb lines on mine!  Build wise it's pretty good and very simple - it's a very old design thats been around since at least the mid 90's without any real changes. The frame is all 6mm carbon tube so cheap if you do break it but you probably won't as it tends to bounce back into the air when you crash it.  I've only broken mine once when I hit a goalpost at full pelt mid window and smashed a leading edge. As I said it won't trick, but in high winds it's lots of fun and sure to put a big grin on your face.  If you want to be really silly you can stack them too!

HQ Delta Hawk in 6bft - Don't blink!


Delta Hawk



You can also get the HQ Delta Flizz which is a 60% sized Delta Hawk - half the pull twice the speed if you can keep up. This is my homemade version.

Li'l Frankie - a small kite in high winds.





 
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 07:46 AM »

for high winds,
you first have to define what is high winds for you and what do you want to do in it.
4bft? 6bft? 8bft? etc
The higher it gets the less options you have on what to do.
While you can still trick in 4bft, tricking in 8bft really taxes you as pilot and the kite to the point of it been next to useless. On the other hand a speedkite just starts to be good fun at 4bft and will really challenge your skill and reflexes in 8bft Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 04:11 PM »

thanks guys for your replies!
what is 4bft equal in mph ?
im only used to mph terms! Grin
is the delta hawk capable of at least doing loops ?
thanks
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 04:27 PM »

Wow. That's a lot of sail on that small kite. No wonder it pulls.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 04:30 PM »

which kite in the pic is the delta hawk,the blue or the blk/red one ?
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 04:51 PM »

did some research on google r.e wind measurements other than mph,

1 beaufort = 1.87 mph/light air
2 beaufort = 5.28 mph/light breeze
3 beaufort = 9.71 mph/gentle breeze
4 beaufort = 14.96 mph/moderate breeze
5 beaufort = 20.90 mph/fresh breeze
6 beaufort = 27.48 mph/strong breeze
7 beaufort = 34.63 mph/moderate gale

http://www.convert-measurement-units.com/conversion-calculator.php?type=velocity
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 05:10 PM »

The black and red one is the delta hawk and flys upto 48mph!! (I think that's the rating). And yes it will loop etc. Must be some vids on utube of people really going for it
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 06:34 PM »

my inland stupid winds or lack of them p1ss me off!!! Angry
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2014, 08:32 PM »

my inland stupid winds or lack of them p1ss me off!!! Angry

You need to treat yourself to a 30 minute drive down to somewhere like Mordialloc beach.  You won't regret it!
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2014, 08:54 PM »

my inland stupid winds or lack of them p1ss me off!!! Angry

You need to treat yourself to a 30 minute drive down to somewhere like Mordialloc beach.  You won't regret it!
yep your rite kev! Grin
just a bit worried about hitting people or loose dogs!
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2014, 10:10 PM »

As much as I bitch about inland winds I certainly have to say paying attention to the wind and inputs a lot more should pay off. I hope to be heading to Lake Michigan next weekend and it should seem like child's play after all I have to do to fly at home.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2014, 03:52 PM »

thanks guys for your replies!
what is 4bft equal in mph ?
im only used to mph terms! Grin
is the delta hawk capable of at least doing loops ?
thanks
glen

Check my original post, I've got the videos working now.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2014, 07:03 PM »

SpeedWings are another option....

Speedwing Prodesign -  46" wingspan
Speedwing Super Pro - 69" wingspan
Speedwing Progress - 82.5" wingspan
Speedwing Promax - 112" wingspan

Sadly, these don't get a lot of attention.

Another much overlooked (there are a lot of kites in the HQ catalog that fall into this category) option is the HQ Batkite

Width   200 cm / 79"
Height
65 cm / 26"
Sail   Nylon
Frame   Carbon 6 mm
Line   rec. 70-100 kp / 150-220 lb.
Wind   1,5-7 (7-61 km/h l 5-38 mph)



Almost silent with 2 battens per side.  If the wind is up, it will easily pull ribbon or 3" inch tuble tails from both wing tips and the spine.

ATB,
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2014, 07:08 PM »

And if you feel like splurging....

the Mirage Warbirds (<--Link to Kitelife review)

Mirage warm up on Vimeo


ATB,
Sam
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