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« on: August 06, 2014, 05:31 PM »

Not my first visualization either  Roll Eyes




Starting to experiment with video using my little Canon camera on a pocket tripod. This from a lunch session today. Need to work on the groundwork with the stack I see. If you need music, I suggest Pink Floyd "Echos".  Don't think I could stand a 23 minute video of figures though.

An unedited video from Second Class Kiting Productions...

https://http://youtu.be/Y074eUAh7Ro

Comments welcome, positive suggestion preferred.  Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 05:45 PM »

Not my first visualization either  Roll Eyes




Starting to experiment with video using my little Canon camera on a pocket tripod. This from a lunch session today. Need to work on the groundwork with the stack I see. If you need music, I suggest Pink Floyd "Echos".  Don't think I could stand a 23 minute video of figures though.

An unedited video from Second Class Kiting Productions...

https://http://youtu.be/Y074eUAh7Ro

Comments welcome, positive suggestion preferred.  Smiley




Nice video. If you have a Windows PC, you can get Windows Movie Maker which is free, and the learning curve is really short, and you can easily add music to your video, plus titles, credits, etc.   http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-live/movie-maker


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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 06:01 PM »

Installed WMM and it craped out loading this particular video.  Don't think it liked my groundwork either.  Do have Nero for disk burning and it has a video editor that loaded this clip ok.

Could be closer to the camera but restricts the viewing window.  Need some better footage to work with...

Nice video. If you have a Windows PC, you can get Windows Movie Maker which is free, and the learning curve is really short, and you can easily add music to your video, plus titles, credits, etc.   http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-live/movie-maker
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 06:10 PM »

Hey I enjoyed that. Like your multiple landings especially. A kite stack is on my radar for sometime down the road.

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 11:38 PM »

I like the half axels and the fades. Did not think that was doable with a stack. Show us more of those!
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 04:50 AM »

@basicbill Smiley  Go for it!

I like the half axels and the fades. Did not think that was doable with a stack. Show us more of those!

Thanks.  The modded Exile gives away those moves for free and holds a solid fade (as a single).  I used pretty short stack lines which may not be letting the second kite settle into a fade.  Will tie up some longer link lines and see what happens. Would be cool to get the stack to hold a fade  Cool

Keep in mind these are ULs in some pretty light winds.  Standards are easier to toss around.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 08:59 AM »

Movie maker has an old version plus MM2.6  ... They both have trouble supporting HD.  I work with Corel and Power Director.  I sometimes send it through Corel and Then work it with Movie Maker 2.6.  The old version allowed you to over lap videos giving it this cool effect of seeing one then both then the new one. Can't find that effect anywhere since.  But you can download the old version and get it...

I clipped and added some music to your really nice flying of your pair...  Huh Huh

  I try to always have meaning in the music to the video..so here you go... Enjoy !!  Kiss Kiss Kiss

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 09:09 AM »

Not my first visualization either  Roll Eyes



Yeah, those kites look like Dudes, not Babes.

I've always thought of the Exile as a masculine kite. At least in the context of the Blue Moon lineup.

Thanks for the video!
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 11:59 AM »

Well Stapp59 didn't lie... they were stacked.  Cheesy I like your video! I wouldn't have guessed you could do tricks with a stack but you pulled it off very well!

At about 2:48 in, I thought you were going to loose the back kite or they were going to get jammed and hit the ground. But it recovered and you flew like a champ.

I can give you a little advice on an editor...I'm not the best in the world, but I've been producing videos for a long time (spent a number of years as a videographer/editor at several tv stations and owned a video production company years ago). I produce all my vids under the name of Lucky Wheels Productions and have fun doing it.   http://www.hilliard.ws/videos.htm   I use Adobe Premiere for my editing. If you buy it new, it can certainly get expensive, but you might be able to find it on ebay at a decent price. Sometimes you can buy the complete package (older version) for about 30 bucks or less. Just checked ebay and found an Adobe Premiere Elements 9 For Windows - BRAND NEW SEALED FULL VERSION listed for a buy it now price of 19.99.

You'll need to make sure your PC meets the minimum hardware requirements to run and use it. In the end, it will do anything you want in editing, mixing, character generation and special effects. It'll even do slow motion, which is a feature I used on my last kite video. Also, Premiere will convert your videos to just about any video format. It's not hard to use... very intuitive.

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 06:01 PM »

Thanks for the music. Al Jarreau isn't quite Pink Floyd but is seems to fit fine Smiley

My version of MM just says 2012.  The camera produces .mov files that Windoze identifies as Apple Quicktime.  No wonder it barfs trying to load them.  Shocked

I do have Nero and some leads from you and Trip.  This may actually become fun...

Movie maker has an old version plus MM2.6  ... They both have trouble supporting HD.  I work with Corel and Power Director.  I sometimes send it through Corel and Then work it with Movie Maker 2.6.  The old version allowed you to over lap videos giving it this cool effect of seeing one then both then the new one. Can't find that effect anywhere since.  But you can download the old version and get it...

I clipped and added some music to your really nice flying of your pair...  Huh Huh

I try to always have meaning in the music to the video..so here you go... Enjoy !!  Kiss Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 06:14 PM »

If I had posted the title "Dudes!", would you have been as likely to open it?  Cheesy 

There have been a number of women forced into Exile certainly not an all male phenomena.

If you remember my first Exile in grape/purple/rubin you would not have thought masculine.  Ha!

Not my first visualization either  Roll Eyes

Yeah, those kites look like Dudes, not Babes.

I've always thought of the Exile as a masculine kite. At least in the context of the Blue Moon lineup.

Thanks for the video!
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 06:22 PM »

Thanks for the info Trip!  May well need a more featured video editor to do more of these.

2:48 was supposed to be a graceful half axle flip into a two point landing.  The stack needs a bit more room than a single to come around completely.  Just about had a tangled pile there.

Well Stapp59 didn't lie... they were stacked.  Cheesy I like your video! I wouldn't have guessed you could do tricks with a stack but you pulled it off very well!

At about 2:48 in, I thought you were going to loose the back kite or they were going to get jammed and hit the ground. But it recovered and you flew like a champ.

I can give you a little advice on an editor...I'm not the best in the world, but I've been producing videos for a long time (spent a number of years as a videographer/editor at several tv stations and owned a video production company years ago). I produce all my vids under the name of Lucky Wheels Productions and have fun doing it.   http://www.hilliard.ws/videos.htm   I use Adobe Premiere for my editing. If you buy it new, it can certainly get expensive, but you might be able to find it on ebay at a decent price. Sometimes you can buy the complete package (older version) for about 30 bucks or less. Just checked ebay and found an Adobe Premiere Elements 9 For Windows - BRAND NEW SEALED FULL VERSION listed for a buy it now price of 19.99.

You'll need to make sure your PC meets the minimum hardware requirements to run and use it. In the end, it will do anything you want in editing, mixing, character generation and special effects. It'll even do slow motion, which is a feature I used on my last kite video. Also, Premiere will convert your videos to just about any video format. It's not hard to use... very intuitive.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2014, 03:27 PM »

O.K. Mr. "Stackanator" that was some nice work for a first go around!
I found myself wondering how they would look with mirror image sail layouts.
When are you gunna open a BMK II sewing center?  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2014, 05:02 PM »

Movie maker has an old version plus MM2.6  ... They both have trouble supporting HD.  I work with Corel and Power Director.  I sometimes send it through Corel and Then work it with Movie Maker 2.6.  The old version allowed you to over lap videos giving it this cool effect of seeing one then both then the new one. Can't find that effect anywhere since.  But you can download the old version and get it...

I clipped and added some music to your really nice flying of your pair...  Huh Huh

  I try to always have meaning in the music to the video..so here you go... Enjoy !!  Kiss Kiss Kiss

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Great flying, and with the added music , great video, and one of my all time favorite Al Jarreau tunes.  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2014, 04:03 AM »

Thanks for the compliment, better than "Stacknado"  Cheesy

There are several on this forum with more stacking experience. Large stacks at that.  I normally stop at three as big kites can really pull when stacked.

The is only one BMK and Ken is still building kites. Outside of that one never knows...

O.K. Mr. "Stackanator" that was some nice work for a first go around!
I found myself wondering how they would look with mirror image sail layouts.
When are you gunna open a BMK II sewing center?  Wink
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