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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 01:38 PM »

Wait ,there is a list ?!?! Undecided Embarrassed Lips sealed

Thank you kindly, Iftah.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2015, 05:26 AM »

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Will team sets be next?  Smiley

That would require a team to be interested.  In my dreams...

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There is some interest in something a bit larger...

I keep hearing this tease of making a larger variation... anxiously awaiting the enbiggened Enigma ! If there's a list, I'd sure like to be on it...

The year has been dedicated to maturing the 2.4m Enigma.  That I'm building personal sets I expect to have for a long time says something.

This fall will start on a 30% enlarged version. "Enigmax" will have a 10' wingspan.  The goal is a larger kite with big presence yet still a capable flyer.

After that there could be a 6' Enigmin and perhaps a 3' Enigmite.  Smiley

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Thank you kindly, Iftah.

There is no list.  The kite has gone out to a group of flyers I've known for a long time who would be inclined to enjoy an all around kite like the Enigma. We'll see where it goes after that.

If someone flies the kite and truly thinks it fits their style then send me a note. 
I enjoy seeing the kite flown by those who appreciate it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2015, 11:22 AM »

Has Enigmax #1 been spoken for?  Tongue  Roll Eyes

A 6/8/10 progressive stack of Enigma variants sounds oh so beautiful.
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2015, 11:26 AM »

I imagine that RobB would also be all over an Enigmax x too
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 12:00 PM »

Yes, that was me making a little noise on page 1...

I really enjoy the 10' wings, I don't know why they're not more popular...
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 12:06 PM »

I yield to the noise maker from page 1.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2015, 01:01 PM »

Yes, that was me making a little noise on page 1...

I really enjoy the 10' wings, I don't know why they're not more popular...
They do command a little more $
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2015, 03:15 PM »

6' or 3'  now I'm intrigued.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 05:15 PM »

I am aware of these ~10' kites from days past.  I'm sure there are others.

PBSK Centurion
Prism Total Eclipse
TOTL NSR Windrule
Dodd NT Firestorm
Big Easy XXL, MEFM Maxi (RayB)
Skyburner ?? (old skool)

Many of these are larger versions of their 8' "Std" siblings.  The larger kites have more sky presence, fly in lower winds, load faster and pull more, slower forward speed, more arm movement to trick.

Any other examples, comments, stories, observations?

 
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 05:23 PM »

Whangdoodle: 116" wingspan

Inflating leading edge!!

10 photos with close-up of inflatable leading edge start here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2005Kites#5431911125191348690

Very smooth spin tricks by the way. Particularly when Mark Reed flew mine.  Huh

Britt with Whangdoodle in fade:
https://picasaweb.google.com/chilesej/2005Kites#5431664036502582706
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2015, 05:42 PM »

I am aware of these ~10' kites from days past.  I'm sure there are others.

PBSK Centurion
Prism Total Eclipse
TOTL NSR Windrule
Dodd NT Firestorm
Big Easy XXL, MEFM Maxi (RayB)
Skyburner ?? (old skool)

Many of these are larger versions of their 8' "Std" siblings.  The larger kites have more sky presence, fly in lower winds, load faster and pull more, slower forward speed, more arm movement to trick.

Any other examples, comments, stories, observations?

 
The Firestorm was the first 10' kite I had, I actually had 2 of them. I still like to fly it, but it has a narrow wind range, like an UL, due to less than robust construction. I've flown the Prism Total Eclipse, and have a Prophecy, which is almost a BIG kite. Most recently I got my hands on the Skyburner XL. Wow, what a kite ! It can do all the tricks that I know how to do, and is such a pleasure to fly.
Like you said, a big kite has extra presence in the sky, and it's easier to see what the kite is doing. It's like flying a regular 8' kite on 50' lines.
BTW, I've been lusting after the PBSK Centurion for years... but when's the last time you saw one of those up for sale ?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2015, 05:46 PM »

Thanks John, forgot about that one.  It's in an old catalog somewhere in the kite files...

Interesting about the inflatable LE. Like broadseaming, another way to add shape to the sail.  Was that for wind efficiency, speed control, smoothness, something else?

2-25 for such a big wing?  Really??
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2015, 05:49 PM »

I am aware of these ~10' kites from days past.  I'm sure there are others.

PBSK Centurion
Prism Total Eclipse
TOTL NSR Windrule
Dodd NT Firestorm
Big Easy XXL, MEFM Maxi (RayB)
Skyburner ?? (old skool)

Many of these are larger versions of their 8' "Std" siblings.  The larger kites have more sky presence, fly in lower winds, load faster and pull more, slower forward speed, more arm movement to trick.

Any other examples, comments, stories, observations?


And I have/had each of these (minus the Skyburner), plus the Thor's Hammer and Flying Wing's Pandora's Box.  Still have the Total Eclipse, Firestorm(s), Maxi-MEFM and Thor.  Thor is by far the trickiest of those I have flown, but it is a beast.  That is why I am so looking forward to your Enigmax.  I haven't flown a really tricky 10' kite.
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2015, 05:52 PM »

The Firestorm was the first 10' kite I had, I actually had 2 of them. I still like to fly it, but it has a narrow wind range, like an UL, due to less than robust construction.

I reframed the LEs of my Firestorms with Skyshark 8Ps.  You can get them in 40" lengths.  Toughens up the frame.  I fly them stacked with big tails.
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2015, 06:01 PM »

Thanks Doug. I forgot about the Pandora's Box.

I would say at Las Vegas altitude, the Whangdoodle

was more of a 4 to 12 mph kind of kite.
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